Can't fix bat [BLEEP] crazy. Only remove them from the collective gene pool. This dude is a piece of human garbage that could not mentally or physically handle the kid or kids that rejected/supposed bullied him so he resorted to what his under developed mind could put together for him. He is a coward through to the core. What the hell ever happened to sticks and stones will break your bones but words will never hurt you? It is not like this filth was getting a beat down daily by some big bad bully. What a lot of these soft underbelly kids think is bullying now days is simply kids being kids. Nothing that has not gone on since the beginning of modern man. For some reason some of them now feel that shooting up the place is acceptable behavior/reaction and I can guaranty you that it has nothing to do with who currently holds political offices, how [BLEEP] many guns are available or what church they did or did not attend.
(05-21-2018, 08:44 AM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]Can't fix bat [BLEEP] crazy. Only remove them from the collective gene pool. This dude is a piece of human garbage that could not mentally or physically handle the kid or kids that rejected/supposed bullied him so he resorted to what his under developed mind could put together for him. He is a coward through to the core. What the hell ever happened to sticks and stones will break your bones but words will never hurt you? It is not like this filth was getting a beat down daily by some big bad bully. What a lot of these soft underbelly kids think is bullying now days is simply kids being kids. Nothing that has not gone on since the beginning of modern man. For some reason some of them now feel that shooting up the place is acceptable behavior/reaction and I can guaranty you that it has nothing to do with who currently holds political offices, how [BLEEP] many guns are available or what church they did or did not attend.
Thank god he was taken into custody with no injuries.
(05-21-2018, 08:17 AM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]Stop arguing politics.
This is an obviously disturbed kid who, for some reason, felt nothing about human life. Doesn't matter what he believed. It really doesn't. He was bonkers.
Stop arguing that subject we can't discuss is more necessary
That is stupid, beyond stupid.
We get one life to live. One. Why would you take that chance away from anyone? I don't need a book to tell me how valuable that one chance is.
The problem in a nutshell is social media and weak-minded easily corruptible children created because their parents never took the time to teach them how to tell what is real and what is fake in this rapidly growing digital world we all live in. It's compounded an issue that these kinda kids already have... and it creates these disasters.
1. This is the POLITICS FORUM.
2. Stop equating evil with mental illness. Evil is much more frequently the default state of humanity than not; it's why the Enlightenment was such a remarkable achievement.
3. You absolutely DO need a standard for ethics and that standard came from men like Bacon, Locke, Montesquieu, Descartes, and Rousseau. Their philosophical work is the reason why we have this concept of human freedom and the idea that it simply exists without intention is why we're losing it.
I'm not defending this kid's actions, but it appears he was also bullied by the football coaches, who constantly made fun of his body odor.
I guess I can relate to that. The coaches in my Junior High and High School were truly sadistic monsters.
(05-21-2018, 09:43 AM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not defending this kid's actions, but it appears he was also bullied by the football coaches, who constantly made fun of his body odor.
I guess I can relate to that. The coaches in my Junior High and High School were truly sadistic monsters.
Soooo, take a shower then? Most of the time
that kind of "bullying" is a life lesson.
(05-21-2018, 09:45 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (05-21-2018, 09:43 AM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not defending this kid's actions, but it appears he was also bullied by the football coaches, who constantly made fun of his body odor.
I guess I can relate to that. The coaches in my Junior High and High School were truly sadistic monsters.
Soooo, take a shower then? Most of the time that kind of "bullying" is a life lesson.
The coaches were the ones doing this. Not his teammates.
The coaches, the adults in this situation, shouldn't be making fun of this kid but instead, pull him to the side and talk to him.
(05-21-2018, 09:47 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (05-21-2018, 09:45 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Soooo, take a shower then? Most of the time that kind of "bullying" is a life lesson.
The coaches were the ones doing this. Not his teammates.
The coaches, the adults in this situation, shouldn't be making fun of this kid but instead, pull him to the side and talk to him.
Oh boo hoo...
So instead of killing the coaches who did it he goes in an art class?
A friend in Houston is related to a Santa Fe first responder. He says CNN and MSNBC have been crawling all over town looking for anyone who will advance their gun grabbing agenda, but the locals are stonewalling these attempts. He also said one of the pipe bombs did explode. Said the shooter was mostly focused on the girl who embarrassed him - shot her in art class, left to shoot others, then returned and shot her multiple times until her body was not recognizable.
(05-21-2018, 10:05 AM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ] (05-21-2018, 09:47 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]The coaches were the ones doing this. Not his teammates.
The coaches, the adults in this situation, shouldn't be making fun of this kid but instead, pull him to the side and talk to him.
Oh boo hoo...
So instead of killing the coaches who did it he goes in an art class?
That's not the point.
The point is that maybe if the coaches had talked to him instead of adding on to the bullying, this may have been avoided. But instead, they piled on to this kid and he hit a breaking point.
It's not that difficult as an adult to pull a kid aside and have an actual conversation. This has nothing to do with "Hey get thick skin kid." Kids expect it from their peers but not from someone who supposedly had their best interest at heart.
I went through some bullying growing up. Mostly in middle school when I was barely eleven or twelve years old. And it was mostly from the overgrown "teenagers" that had failed more than once and were damn near eighteen already. Sometimes you have to bow up and stick that chest out and throw some haymakers to get your point across pretty [BLEEP] loud and clear.
Sometimes peace isn't an option. Not every child or person you come across in life is going to have proper home training. Just a fact. Everyone's breaking point, boiling point and threshold for mental or physical pain differs between all of us. But it's not enough to justify killing people that were innocent or didn't play a hand in your bullying or mental demise.
Now personally I've NEVER had a teacher or adult add insult to injury to provoke the bullying even further. Especially in middle school. I still remember two of the coaches there at Twin Lakes Middle. Coach Mitchell and Coach Seaver. They were awesome coaches and people in general. After I got into a fist fight my 7th grade year I had to cool off. Both of those guys talked to me about what happened. They knew it was self defense and that I was a pretty easy going kid. Shortly after that they were getting me to focus a lot more of that aggression towards dodge ball, football, volleyball, archery and baseball. And I think the biggest thing I took away from it all was what Seaver said.
And I think so many kids need to hear this [BLEEP] today. It's JUST school. It's not your LIFE. It's temporary. This doesn't define you. Do the best you can to get by but what happens in middle school or high school won't decide who you are for the rest of your life. All of the anguish and anger you have now will subside and you learn to grow from it.
(05-21-2018, 09:45 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (05-21-2018, 09:43 AM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not defending this kid's actions, but it appears he was also bullied by the football coaches, who constantly made fun of his body odor.
I guess I can relate to that. The coaches in my Junior High and High School were truly sadistic monsters.
Soooo, take a shower then? Most of the time that kind of "bullying" is a life lesson.
What in the actual the hell is wrong with you?
(05-20-2018, 01:43 AM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2018, 10:35 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]You quoted an article with no link, I found the link. Every point in the article you linked was addressed, every single one of the incidents was described. There was no attempt to mislead. You cited an article, did no follow-up, parroted its conclusion verbatim. I know reading is hard, here's a saltine.
Did you even attemmpt to read the articles? If you read the CNN article you posted, can you keep a straight face and say it was not misleading? Just because certain incidents meet the CNN framework doesn’t make them legit in the “school shooting” dept. I’m seeing you might have the reading down but there is a disconnect in the comprehension department.
So let us go with the high CNN number of 22...gun problem, security issue, or kids have gone mental?
Yes, I read your article, which had no link. Then I found the article, which I read Yes, the headline said there have been 22 school shootings in 2018, which is a fact, then in the beginning of the article they listed, quite clearly, what criteria was used to determine a school shooting, and then a synopsis of all 22 shootings. It was only misleading if you only read an article which told you it was misleading. Why do you think the article you linked had no link to the CNN article? In your eagerness to believe anything negative about CNN, did you bother asking yourself that question?
You cited an article, extolled it's contents, with 0 research. And you called me a parrot.
(05-22-2018, 10:45 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-21-2018, 09:45 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Soooo, take a shower then? Most of the time that kind of "bullying" is a life lesson.
What in the actual the hell is wrong with you?
When people pick on you because you stink you should take it to heart. Yes, high school coaches are sadistic, have been for decades and most of us dealt with it without shooting people.
(05-22-2018, 11:21 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (05-22-2018, 10:45 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]What in the actual the hell is wrong with you?
When people pick on you because you stink you should take it to heart. Yes, high school coaches are sadistic, have been for decades and most of us dealt with it without shooting people.
Just now adults lacking any empathy.
(05-23-2018, 12:15 AM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ] (05-22-2018, 11:21 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]When people pick on you because you stink you should take it to heart. Yes, high school coaches are sadistic, have been for decades and most of us dealt with it without shooting people.
Just now adults lacking any empathy.
Yes, I can't empathize with a 17 year who wont shower.
(05-23-2018, 07:17 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (05-23-2018, 12:15 AM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]Just now adults lacking any empathy.
Yes, I can't empathize with a 17 year who wont shower.
My sister is a special ed teacher and over the years, has had several students with this problem, but by learning about the kids, instead of ridiculing them, she found out they couldn't help it. In some cases, the parents were drug addicts and many times didn't pay the water bill. The kids were lucky to even get fed, much less take showers or buy deodorant. Some kids wore the same clothes over and over, because their parents were too poor or too lazy to wash their clothes or even buy clothes that fit. When I was a kid myself, I was blind to a lot of this stuff. I had good parents, who although we were far from rich, they always got me the stuff I needed and made sure I was clean and had nice clothes for school. Not everyone is so lucky. Some kids are born to parents who either just don't care, are sadistic piles of trash or are too poor to buy them the daily essentials. It's not the fault of the kids, yet they have to go through the degradation and humiliation of being bullied every day for being unclean.
(05-23-2018, 09:45 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (05-23-2018, 07:17 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, I can't empathize with a 17 year who wont shower.
My sister is a special ed teacher and over the years, has had several students with this problem, but by learning about the kids, instead of ridiculing them, she found out they couldn't help it. In some cases, the parents were drug addicts and many times didn't pay the water bill. The kids were lucky to even get fed, much less take showers or buy deodorant. Some kids wore the same clothes over and over, because their parents were too poor or too lazy to wash their clothes or even buy clothes that fit. When I was a kid myself, I was blind to a lot of this stuff. I had good parents, who although we were far from rich, they always got me the stuff I needed and made sure I was clean and had nice clothes for school. Not everyone is so lucky. Some kids are born to parents who either just don't care, are sadistic piles of trash or are too poor to buy them the daily essentials. It's not the fault of the kids, yet they have to go through the degradation and humiliation of being bullied every day for being unclean.
And there was a time when that was how the wheat was separated from chaff.
I'm sorry that so many
democrats people have children they can't afford and demand free money from the government to keep them up to date with their drug dealers.
Those people should have exercised their right to choose rather than expect the rest of us to help.
That's pretty harsh, right? Sorry - I pay my bills and keep my kids fed and clothed. Caring is great - if you're rich. I don't have that luxury. But if I had millions of dollars, I'd be doing my best to help.
(05-22-2018, 11:05 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ] (05-20-2018, 01:43 AM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]Did you even attemmpt to read the articles? If you read the CNN article you posted, can you keep a straight face and say it was not misleading? Just because certain incidents meet the CNN framework doesn’t make them legit in the “school shooting” dept. I’m seeing you might have the reading down but there is a disconnect in the comprehension department.
So let us go with the high CNN number of 22...gun problem, security issue, or kids have gone mental?
Yes, I read your article, which had no link. Then I found the article, which I read Yes, the headline said there have been 22 school shootings in 2018, which is a fact, then in the beginning of the article they listed, quite clearly, what criteria was used to determine a school shooting, and then a synopsis of all 22 shootings. It was only misleading if you only read an article which told you it was misleading. Why do you think the article you linked had no link to the CNN article? In your eagerness to believe anything negative about CNN, did you bother asking yourself that question?
You cited an article, extolled it's contents, with 0 research. And you called me a parrot.
It’s fact because CNN said so? Because it met their non-normative guidlines? Your lack of comprehension and comparative capabilities reeks! Yes, very misleading based on federal guidlines, but feel free to readily gorge on anything they put out. Where in that craptastic CNN article does it cite a reliable source? FYI, if you want to claim you researched, you may want to step away from your CNN bubble. I’ll link a site of some readily available sources so you can at least start down the path of gaining useful knowledge. In all your arm flailing and squaking you still fail to answer the questions I posed to actually address the issues, rather than this useless bickering.
https://www.fbi.gov/about/partnerships/o...-resources
(05-23-2018, 09:45 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (05-23-2018, 07:17 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, I can't empathize with a 17 year who wont shower.
My sister is a special ed teacher and over the years, has had several students with this problem, but by learning about the kids, instead of ridiculing them, she found out they couldn't help it. In some cases, the parents were drug addicts and many times didn't pay the water bill. The kids were lucky to even get fed, much less take showers or buy deodorant. Some kids wore the same clothes over and over, because their parents were too poor or too lazy to wash their clothes or even buy clothes that fit. When I was a kid myself, I was blind to a lot of this stuff. I had good parents, who although we were far from rich, they always got me the stuff I needed and made sure I was clean and had nice clothes for school. Not everyone is so lucky. Some kids are born to parents who either just don't care, are sadistic piles of trash or are too poor to buy them the daily essentials. It's not the fault of the kids, yet they have to go through the degradation and humiliation of being bullied every day for being unclean.
In my early military days I had two individuals that somehow made it through the recruitment process and under my leadership that had severe hygiene issues. One male and one female. I had many a “session” to remedy the issues. As it turned out, the male had a medical issue that caused severe body odor. The female had been neglected and never learned how to take care of herself. The fact that these two individuals slipped through the cracks for so long is what is wrong. Not one person showed them the necessary attention so that they could thrive and progress in society. The “it’s not my problem” mentality is what reinforces the mental issues we’re seeing. We have the ability to identify, correct, and encourage. Instead, we’d rather cry about the consequences later on and pretend like we had no idea something was wrong. Humanity can fix alot of what we are seeing but it will take folks getting outside of their selfish bubbles.
(05-23-2018, 10:17 AM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ] (05-22-2018, 11:05 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, I read your article, which had no link. Then I found the article, which I read Yes, the headline said there have been 22 school shootings in 2018, which is a fact, then in the beginning of the article they listed, quite clearly, what criteria was used to determine a school shooting, and then a synopsis of all 22 shootings. It was only misleading if you only read an article which told you it was misleading. Why do you think the article you linked had no link to the CNN article? In your eagerness to believe anything negative about CNN, did you bother asking yourself that question?
You cited an article, extolled it's contents, with 0 research. And you called me a parrot.
It’s fact because CNN said so? Because it met their non-normative guidlines? Your lack of comprehension and comparative capabilities reeks! Yes, very misleading based on federal guidlines, but feel free to readily gorge on anything they put out. Where in that craptastic CNN article does it cite a reliable source? FYI, if you want to claim you researched, you may want to step away from your CNN bubble. I’ll link a site of some readily available sources so you can at least start down the path of gaining useful knowledge. In all your arm flailing and squaking you still fail to answer the questions I posed to actually address the issues, rather than this useless bickering.
https://www.fbi.gov/about/partnerships/o...-resources
Do you deny that in every one of those 22 incidents, it was a shooting of a gun at a human target in a school? Every synopsis had a link, every incident reported by other sources. Were they all mass shootings like the ones in Texas and Florida? No, but the criteria used were clearly stated in the beginning of the CNN article. You didn't know that, because you "gorged" on the article you linked, with no follow-up on your part. It fit your world view, you gobbled it up like saltines.
The irony here is we are essentially arguing over semantics, whether or not CNN improperly used the term "school shootings", then your supposedly enlightening (though interesting, thanks) link was to an FBI site where the topic is Active Shooters.
You brought up CNN, not me. I'm not comfortable defending CNN, they get too fixated. I merely addressed your post. My choice of morning viewing is Dan Patrick and reruns of That 70's Show. The news channels are noise. Looking at the tone of our posts, do you really have the lack of self-awareness to claim I'm the one flailing my arms? None of this affects my life in any way.