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So far no reports of casualties. If the Iranians targeted infrastructure, this will probably be the end of it. The last thing the Iranians want is a war. Not because of U.S. power, but because their theocratic regime is on shaky ground. There has been simmering discontent for years now. The resources expended to wage battle from an already depleted economy would fuel an overthrow. Plus there's that thing of, you know, machine gunning 1500 protesters that I'm sure doesn't sit well the populace.

(01-07-2020, 09:41 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]So far no reports of casualties. If the Iranians targeted infrastructure, this will probably be the end of it. The last thing the Iranians want is a war. Not because of U.S. power, but because their theocratic regime is on shaky ground. There has been simmering discontent for years now. The resources expended to wage battle from an already depleted economy would fuel an overthrow. Plus there's that thing of, you know, machine gunning 1500 protesters that I'm sure doesn't sit well the populace.

There were Iraqi casualties only

The Pottery Barn Rule: If you break it, you own it.

Colin Powell was right.

(01-07-2020, 09:48 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.westernjournal.com/us-deploy...hare4share

Blows my [BLEEP] mind that an article can post hints and clues to where military aircraft and weapons are housed.

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(01-07-2020, 09:41 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]So far no reports of casualties. If the Iranians targeted infrastructure, this will probably be the end of it. The last thing the Iranians want is a war. Not because of U.S. power, but because their theocratic regime is on shaky ground. There has been simmering discontent for years now. The resources expended to wage battle from an already depleted economy would fuel an overthrow. Plus there's that thing of, you know, machine gunning 1500 protesters that I'm sure doesn't sit well the populace.

That's why killing a revered leader was stupid. It was not long ago that Iranians were protesting violently against their government. Now they are united in mourning.,

(01-07-2020, 09:53 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-07-2020, 09:41 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]So far no reports of casualties. If the Iranians targeted infrastructure, this will probably be the end of it. The last thing the Iranians want is a war. Not because of U.S. power, but because their theocratic regime is on shaky ground. There has been simmering discontent for years now. The resources expended to wage battle from an already depleted economy would fuel an overthrow. Plus there's that thing of, you know, machine gunning 1500 protesters that I'm sure doesn't sit well the populace.

That's why killing a revered leader was stupid. It was not long ago that Iranians were protesting violently against their government. Now they are united in mourning.,

You're right.  Dont worry about strategic deturance.  Let's just wait for the genocidal maniacs to stop killing protesters long enough for them to foment revolution?

(01-07-2020, 09:52 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-07-2020, 09:48 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.westernjournal.com/us-deploy...hare4share

Blows my [BLEEP] mind that an article can post hints and clues to where military aircraft and weapons are housed.

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Maybe they just wanted that to get out.  We might really be doing something else.  That's one thing we have learned  about Trump.  Hes not gonna tell what hes going to do before he does it

(01-07-2020, 09:31 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-07-2020, 09:19 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]Missiles fired into a US airbase in the Middle East. I’d like to again thank the boomers, this time for solving global warming by bringing on nuclear winter.

It won't come to that, we have the ability to wipe out every military installation in Iran within 30 minutes

China and Russia would [BLEEP] us back into the Stone Age if we did that.

(01-07-2020, 09:53 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-07-2020, 09:41 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]So far no reports of casualties. If the Iranians targeted infrastructure, this will probably be the end of it. The last thing the Iranians want is a war. Not because of U.S. power, but because their theocratic regime is on shaky ground. There has been simmering discontent for years now. The resources expended to wage battle from an already depleted economy would fuel an overthrow. Plus there's that thing of, you know, machine gunning 1500 protesters that I'm sure doesn't sit well the populace.

That's why killing a revered leader was stupid. It was not long ago that Iranians were protesting violently against their government. Now they are united in mourning.,

He was revered partly because of his leadership in killing Americans by proxy. He was also instrumental in suppressing protesters within Iran. They're not as united as you think. I'm sure many would openly celebrate his death if not for the threat of arrest or execution.

(01-07-2020, 09:47 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-07-2020, 09:41 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]So far no reports of casualties. If the Iranians targeted infrastructure, this will probably be the end of it. The last thing the Iranians want is a war. Not because of U.S. power, but because their theocratic regime is on shaky ground. There has been simmering discontent for years now. The resources expended to wage battle from an already depleted economy would fuel an overthrow. Plus there's that thing of, you know, machine gunning 1500 protesters that I'm sure doesn't sit well the populace.

There were Iraqi casualties only

Exactly. 
The American troops get priority for primo spots in the bunker.
The Iraqis are the most vulnerable.
It's not sustainable unless the Iraqis love us, unless they feel they need us.
If all the American troops are in a bunker, and all the Iraqis are above ground, who's to say the Iraqis will let our guys out?
Obviously it's more complicated than that, and obviously dudes smarter than me spend all day thinking about OpSec, but, the parts I'm leaving out don't change the final analysis: if the Iraqis don't want us there, our presence is not sustainable.

(01-07-2020, 10:14 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-07-2020, 09:47 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]There were Iraqi casualties only

Exactly. 
The American troops get priority for primo spots in the bunker.
The Iraqis are the most vulnerable.
It's not sustainable unless the Iraqis love us, unless they feel they need us.
If all the American troops are in a bunker, and all the Iraqis are above ground, who's to say the Iraqis will let our guys out?
Obviously it's more complicated than that, and obviously dudes smarter than me spend all day thinking about OpSec, but, the parts I'm leaving out don't change the final analysis: if the Iraqis don't want us there, our presence is not sustainable.

I wonder if Iran did that on purpose.  It's still bad but it would of been much worse for Iran if there were US casualties

(01-07-2020, 10:21 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-07-2020, 10:14 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Exactly. 
The American troops get priority for primo spots in the bunker.
The Iraqis are the most vulnerable.
It's not sustainable unless the Iraqis love us, unless they feel they need us.
If all the American troops are in a bunker, and all the Iraqis are above ground, who's to say the Iraqis will let our guys out?
Obviously it's more complicated than that, and obviously dudes smarter than me spend all day thinking about OpSec, but, the parts I'm leaving out don't change the final analysis: if the Iraqis don't want us there, our presence is not sustainable.

I wonder if Iran did that on purpose.  It's still bad but it would of been much worse for Iran if there were US casualties

Trump has made it distinctly clear that if an American is killed, there will be retribution. It will be interesting to see where these missiles landed. I would be willing to bet they were intentionally targeted long as a face saving measure.

(01-07-2020, 10:26 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-07-2020, 10:21 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder if Iran did that on purpose.  It's still bad but it would of been much worse for Iran if there were US casualties

Trump has made it distinctly clear that if an American is killed, there will be retribution. It will be interesting to see where these missiles landed. I would be willing to bet they were intentionally targeted long as a face saving measure.

That's what I mean.  Iran probably did it to look tough, but didnt want to kill any US casualties in the attack because of what Trump said.  They know Trump dont bs like Obama

(01-07-2020, 10:10 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-07-2020, 09:31 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]It won't come to that, we have the ability to wipe out every military installation in Iran within 30 minutes

China and Russia would [BLEEP] us back into the Stone Age if we did that.

No, they wouldn't.

Everyone knows Soleimani is a piece of [BLEEP]. Even China and Russia know they're unpredictable, and they don't want mutual destruction because of religious zealots got bombed.

(01-07-2020, 10:37 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-07-2020, 10:26 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Trump has made it distinctly clear that if an American is killed, there will be retribution. It will be interesting to see where these missiles landed. I would be willing to bet they were intentionally targeted long as a face saving measure.

That's what I mean.  Iran probably did it to look tough, but didnt want to kill any US casualties in the attack because of what Trump said.  They know Trump dont bs like Obama

Obama loved bombing a lot more than Trump so thats kind of a weird point

(01-07-2020, 10:14 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-07-2020, 09:47 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]There were Iraqi casualties only

Exactly. 
The American troops get priority for primo spots in the bunker.
The Iraqis are the most vulnerable.
It's not sustainable unless the Iraqis love us, unless they feel they need us.
If all the American troops are in a bunker, and all the Iraqis are above ground, who's to say the Iraqis will let our guys out?
Obviously it's more complicated than that, and obviously dudes smarter than me spend all day thinking about OpSec, but, the parts I'm leaving out don't change the final analysis: if the Iraqis don't want us there, our presence is not sustainable.

Nice to see you pull another narrative out your rear.

(01-07-2020, 10:51 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-07-2020, 10:37 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]That's what I mean.  Iran probably did it to look tough, but didnt want to kill any US casualties in the attack because of what Trump said.  They know Trump dont bs like Obama

Obama loved bombing a lot more than Trump so thats kind of a weird point

Trump dont want to bomb anyone or any country.  He hasnt had to do any bombing other than the strategic bombing he did to the Taliban in Afghanistan.  But hes not gonna sit there and watch American soldiers die and not do anything about it.  Obama loved bombing eh?