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Quote:Do you know how many coaches have said that right before they've been fired? Probably all of them.


Knowing this team thats probably not the case.
Quote:Knowing this team thats probably not the case.
If he loses against Indy, and most likely even if he wins, he will be fired.

 

He just doesn't have the chops to cut it as a HC.
Quote:last year the defense suck, offense good, this year defense looks good, offense sucks. Next year, offense good, defense good, plllllayyyyyyoooooofffffssss!!!!!


Hahahaha, Andrew Luck avatar.
Quote:Nah, just good discussion instead of the boring "fire everybody" mentality.


Coaches are judged by winsome. There's no other statistical measure and Bradley's record is actually the worst in NFL history for someone on the joback this long. Three years going on four is an eternity in the NFL and for someone to call for this coach's job can't possibly be considered knee jerk or overreacting at this point. Bringing back Bradley and expecting different results at this point makes no sense.
Quote:Do you know how many coaches have said that right before they've been fired? Probably all of them.
 


Yeah, I mean they're not going to be like "Hey Gus, we're firing you next week"
Remember the "DO YOUR JOB" video?

 

Ummmm yeah coach... :yucky:

Quote:If he loses against Indy, and most likely even if he wins, he will be fired.


He just doesn't have the chops to cut it as a HC.


Not if he wins.
Quote:If he loses against Indy, and most likely even if he wins, he will be fired.

 

He just doesn't have the chops to cut it as a HC.
 


I just have a terrible feeling they'll "Let the season play out"
If he wins in London, he probably stays.

The fact that he talked to Dave and Khan means they're not happy with the losses.

Quote:If he wins in London, he probably stays.


Yup, and really should be fired even if he wins.
Quote:Yup, and really should be fired even if he wins.
 

Agreed. Although, the only thing that would give pause to this is if, by some miracle, this team just comes out and dismantles the clots. We all know that's not going to happen, so it's a moot issue but still...
Quote:Coaches are judged by winsome. There's no other statistical measure and Bradley's record is actually the worst in NFL history for someone on the joback this long. Three years going on four is an eternity in the NFL and for someone to call for this coach's job can't possibly be considered knee jerk or overreacting at this point. Bringing back Bradley and expecting different results at this point makes no sense.
No sure why you quoted me, but anyways. No doubt coaching is measured by W/L coulmn, but you also have to admit Bradley was brought in under unique circumstances. Those circumstances were even voiced to this fan base in the beginning. It was know it was going to be a different and drawn out process and not some magical next season turn around. Yet, every year people want to clean shop. This is the year of expected turn around and so far not so good. I don't believe it makes a lick of sense to fire anybody until the season has concluded. At that point, I'm ready for the roaches to scatter and to change the mindset that the Jaguars are a vacation destination!
Well, Gus may have or may not have lost the locker room, but he lost the media today!!!

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...-in-week-3

 

"If you were asking me to pick one of the roster's in this game -- 1 through 53 -- I'd pick the group that hails from Jacksonville. No question. Yet, last week on SiriusXM Radio and CBS Sports Network this week, I picked Baltimore to win.

Why?

Reliable coaching and strong quarterback play. The know-how to win. A culture that permeates from the top. That's the difference between the Ravens and Jaguars.

Gus Bradley is a nice guy. He brings great energy to the gridiron. But to this point, he's a losing head coach. There's just no way around it. And thus, <b>this game said much more about the state of the Jags,</b> who are now 0-3, with two of those defeats coming at home.

Jaguars GM Dave Caldwell arguably put together the best offseason (free agency and draft combined) of any team in the NFL. Jacksonville was an offseason darling, a team many had pegged for a major breakout in 2016. Not so much.

Bradley is now 12-39 in Jacksonville. If the Jags lose to Indianapolis in London this week -- and fall to 0-4 for the third time in Bradley's four years at the helm -- they might just leave the head man there."

Quote:No sure why you quoted me, but anyways. No doubt coaching is measured by W/L coulmn, but you also have to admit Bradley was brought in under unique circumstances. Those circumstances were even voiced to this fan base in the beginning. It was know it was going to be a different and drawn out process and not some magical next season turn around. Yet, every year people want to clean shop. This is the year of expected turn around and so far not so good. I don't believe it makes a lick of sense to fire anybody until the season has concluded. At that point, I'm ready for the roaches to scatter and to change the mindset that the Jaguars are a vacation destination!
I get that point, I really do. I was on the Gus bus but got off in San Diego. I argued, I pleaded, give the man his time, give the man this year. But it's so very obvious the flaw in this Coach, it's just staring at everyone in the eyes. If you asked me last year, I'd have agreed with you. Give the man the season and evaluate at the end of it, it was only fair, it was what we should have been expecting as fans. But after these three games, after watch this team implode on itself, like it has the past 4 years, only now with such undeniable talent on the field... we don't want the man to finish out the season. It's done, he's done, this season is lost and we haven't even played our 4th game. I will bet money on it, I will guarantee you we will not win our division, we won't even finish with a winning record. Gus needs to be gone, his time is over, and if you don't see it as clearly as I see it, you're just behind the curve and are still in denial. It's okay, we'll be here for you when you come to the same realization.
Quote:I get that point, I really do. I was on the Gus bus but got off in San Diego. I argued, I pleaded, give the man his time, give the man this year. But it's so very obvious the flaw in this Coach, it's just staring at everyone in the eyes. If you asked me last year, I'd have agreed with you. Give the man the season and evaluate at the end of it, it was only fair, it was what we should have been expecting as fans. But after these three games, after watch this team implode on itself, like it has the past 4 years, only now with such undeniable talent on the field... we don't want the man to finish out the season. It's done, he's done, this season is lost and we haven't even played our 4th game. I will bet money on it, I will guarantee you we will not win our division, we won't even finish with a winning record. Gus needs to be gone, his time is over, and if you don't see it as clearly as I see it, you're just behind the curve and are still in denial. It's okay, we'll be here for you when you come to the same realization.
Calm yourself. If the season is already over as you claim, what do you achieve by firing the coach now? Seriously? Appease the fan base? Give you a false sense of turning things around? We don't mean squat in the grand scheme of operations and firings are a short-term band-aid at most. I don't enjoy buying seasons tickets for this garbage, but what's done is done. I'm not getting a refund, so I say give Bradley more rope to seal the deal so he won't be back next year.
Quote:If Gus Bradley goes, almost all of the coaches will be gone as well. The new coach will want to bring in his people, and honestly... would you want it any other way? I mean there is Jerry Sullivan... but I'm not "married" to any of the other coaches.


My concern as well. I think Gus has worn out his welcome, but I damn sure don't want to hear....oh, they're learning a whole new offense and defense scheme. Give them another year.

I've had it with...next year bull piss.

Maybe Marrone can do the job and keep the system? Add some tweaks?
Quote:Calm yourself. If the season is already over as you claim, what do you achieve by firing the coach now? Seriously? Appease the fan base? Give you a false sense of turning things around? We don't mean squat in the grand scheme of operations and firings are a short-term band-aid at most. I don't enjoy buying seasons tickets for this garbage, but what's done is done. I'm not getting a refund, so I say give Bradley more rope to seal the deal so he won't be back next year.
Show the fans that they are being heard. Give the fanbase hope of a turnaround next year and possibly this year. Dolphins climbed to 6-10 after firing their coach after a 1-3 start last year. That alone is better than any season Gus has given us. Think about it for a second. This team so desperately needs hope for it to retain a semblance of a fanbase. We've stuck with the losers that have been the Jacksonville Jaguars and have actually increased ticket sales in recent years to show our hope and support for a team that's supposed to be on the rise. We haven't had a winning season in 9 years. It's been 6 years since we hit 50/50, so we've had a solid 5 years(arguably more) of being the laughing stock of the NFL.

 

Firing Gus gives up yet more hope that we're onto bigger better things and the better question is, what negative implications does firing Gus have? Honestly the only I could think of is team morale but who knows if that would even be an issue. Team could give up on Gus in 4 weeks at this rate.

Quote:My concern as well. I think Gus has worn out his welcome, but I damn sure don't want to hear....oh, they're learning a whole new offense and defense scheme. Give them another year.

I've had it with...next year bull [BAD WORD REMOVED].

Maybe Marrone can do the job and keep the system? Add some tweaks?
 

Why would you want to keep this system? It's a system that is as rigid as a corpse and keeps good players on the sideline over "fits". LEO, OTTO, LOTTO, or CRAP-O, let's just make a scheme based on the studs we have. Not make a system and then draft to fit it.
Quote:For everybody's information, when a player like Marks makes a comment like that, it is a sign that Gus is in fact losing the players.
 

 

How so? Please explain, and feel free to go into great detail.

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