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5.5 yards per carry and they won't give him 20 runs a game.

(10-19-2021, 05:50 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]You know which Robinson runs I won't stop talking about?

The ones that never happened because our staff are fools.

15 missing runs week 1
9 missing runs week 2
2 missing runs week 3
2 missing runs week 4
3 missing runs week 5
3 missing runs week 6

He's been robbed of 34 runs by these idiots.
And this would only put him at a meager 20 totes per game.
Derrick Henry AVERAGES 29 runs per game.
Robinson averages 14 carries per game.
Henry avgs 4.8 per carry
Robinson avgs 5.5 per
Absolutely infuriating.

You would be playing with a large amount of fire if you want to give him a workload close to Henry's. Henry is a unicorn with his ability to stay healthy with his insanely high workloads. ~340 carries plus a decent amount of receptions would be pretty bonkers.

(10-19-2021, 07:17 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-19-2021, 05:50 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]You know which Robinson runs I won't stop talking about?

The ones that never happened because our staff are fools.

15 missing runs week 1
9 missing runs week 2
2 missing runs week 3
2 missing runs week 4
3 missing runs week 5
3 missing runs week 6

He's been robbed of 34 runs by these idiots.
And this would only put him at a meager 20 totes per game.
Derrick Henry AVERAGES 29 runs per game.
Robinson averages 14 carries per game.
Henry avgs 4.8 per carry
Robinson avgs 5.5 per
Absolutely infuriating.

You would be playing with a large amount of fire if you want to give him a workload close to Henry's. Henry is a unicorn with his ability to stay healthy with his insanely high workloads. ~340 carries plus a decent amount of receptions would be pretty bonkers.

Did i not just clearly suggest 20 carries per game????

(Compared to 29 for Henry) 

That's a nearly 30% difference.

(10-19-2021, 07:31 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Did i not just clearly suggest 20 carries per game????

(Compared to 29 for Henry) 

That's a nearly 30% difference.

20 carries a game times 17 games and toss in a few receptions a game is damn near 400 touches. That is just absurd.

Henry is a cyborg comparing anyone to him is a fools errand.

I do feel like j Rob needs to get a few more carries but I like what they have done the last 3 or 4 games with his carries although there were a few he should of had when the game is on the line. You def. can't compare him to Henry lol, dude is 6'4" 250 and on pace to break the all time carry mark in a season

(10-19-2021, 07:37 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-19-2021, 07:31 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Did i not just clearly suggest 20 carries per game????

(Compared to 29 for Henry) 

That's a nearly 30% difference.

20 carries a game times 17 games and toss in a few receptions a game is damn near 400 touches. That is just absurd.

Henry is a cyborg comparing anyone to him is a fools errand.

Suggesting he gets 30% less carries than Henry is not "comparing him to Henry." Don't describe my post inaccurately. That's bull [BLEEP]. 

I'm illustrating how far he is from the carries he should be getting -  compared to a back that actually gets a lot of carries. 

 I'm suggesting he get 6 more carries per game and you act like it's an absurd number. It's not. 
Dalvin Cook averaged 22 carries per game in 2020.  Why can't Robinson average 20?  

I know you love to try to diminish every Jaguar player because that's just what you constantly do here, but there's no good reason he can't handle that load.

And Cook is one of the most oft injured players in the game...

Aiming for about 250 carries and 300 total touches for the season would be pretty ideal. Maybe a tad more since we have 17 games now.

(10-19-2021, 08:38 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]And Cook is one of the most oft injured players in the game...

So you don't think he should get 20 carries per game because he'll get injured if he does - but he'll be just fine if he gets 14 carries per game.

Brilliant.

Far more likely, yes.

(10-19-2021, 08:47 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Far more likely, yes.

LOL

He's a 23 year old 5'9" , 220 pound running back in great shape and averaging 5.5 yds per carry. 

He can handle 340 carries in 17 games just fine.  he doesn't need coddling and they'd reap rewards by turning him loose.

(10-19-2021, 07:37 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-19-2021, 07:31 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Did i not just clearly suggest 20 carries per game????

(Compared to 29 for Henry) 

That's a nearly 30% difference.

20 carries a game times 17 games and toss in a few receptions a game is damn near 400 touches. That is just absurd.

Henry is a cyborg comparing anyone to him is a fools errand.

Robinson's 84 carries is only 10th highest in the league.  I don't think we have to worry about burning him out quite yet.

Imagine if ETN was healthy this year....

I agree with the guys saying he needs more carries. Dude is averaging 5 and a half a pop. He has very active feet when he runs much like Emmitt and Frank Gore. He should be top 3 in rushing yards with about 3 or 4 more TDs but I’m not sure what Ol Bevell is doing with the play calling.

We got an absolute work horse. He needs about 20-25 carries per game.

I’m also imagining what he would look like behind a good offensive line. The coaches and owner better not mess this thing up with Robinson. I hope the kid doesn’t start complaining about his work load and start requesting a trade and all that nonsense.

(10-19-2021, 08:51 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-19-2021, 08:47 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Far more likely, yes.

LOL

He's a 23 year old 5'9" , 220 pound running back in great shape and averaging 5.5 yds per carry. 

He can handle 340 carries in 17 games just fine.  he doesn't need coddling and they'd reap rewards by turning him loose.

Well I assume we want him to perform well next year too, and hopefully even the year after that, and maybe even the year after that on the franchise tag. That is not likely if we're giving him ~400 touches a year. If that was my error and you simply want to burn him out this year then sure your plan is good.

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Man y'all are so myopic. "We finally have an above average player let's run him into the ground!"

(10-19-2021, 09:06 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]Robinson's 84 carries is only 10th highest in the league.  I don't think we have to worry about burning him out quite yet.

Right, other than the first game I think they've been using him just fine (as far as workload goes, they could obviously be using him better situationally). I'm talking about the people who are saying we are still significantly underusing him and want us to ramp up the workload. Robinson being about 10th in carries sounds perfect to me. Quality usage for a deserving player, but also realizing that we aren't going anywhere this year and having him fresh for the rest of his rookie deal is also very important.

(10-19-2021, 09:32 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-19-2021, 08:51 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]LOL

He's a 23 year old 5'9" , 220 pound running back in great shape and averaging 5.5 yds per carry. 

He can handle 340 carries in 17 games just fine.  he doesn't need coddling and they'd reap rewards by turning him loose.

Well I assume we want him to perform well next year too, and hopefully even the year after that, and maybe even the year after that on the franchise tag. That is not likely if we're giving him ~400 touches a year. If that was my error and you simply want to burn him out this year then sure your plan is good.

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Man y'all are so myopic. "We finally have an above average player let's run him into the ground!"

Herpitty-Derppity-Derp

They obviously have committee plans for the position moving forward, dude. Or did you miss the draft that happened in the Spring?? 

The kid ran for 9000 yards in high school and 4400 in college. LOL. He's got some "cyborg" in him.

He can absolutely handle a season of 20 carries a game for a year in the NFL at 23 years young.
And you botched that last sentence. It should read - "We finally have an above average player, let's maximize his potential."

(10-19-2021, 09:32 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-19-2021, 08:51 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]LOL

He's a 23 year old 5'9" , 220 pound running back in great shape and averaging 5.5 yds per carry. 

He can handle 340 carries in 17 games just fine.  he doesn't need coddling and they'd reap rewards by turning him loose.

Well I assume we want him to perform well next year too, and hopefully even the year after that, and maybe even the year after that on the franchise tag. That is not likely if we're giving him ~400 touches a year. If that was my error and you simply want to burn him out this year then sure your plan is good.

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Man y'all are so myopic. "We finally have an above average player let's run him into the ground!"

So lemme get this right, you're pounding the table to not over work Robinson, so we have him in the future, yet you also are known for pounding the table for not paying RBs after their 1st contract because (mainly the $$ they command is too high but) they typically don't produce the same in the 2nd 4 years as they do the first 4 years... Hmm.

He's a RFA after next season. At this point in time we have him for a total of 3 seasons for sure. Who knows if this clown show will even match the RFA offer after next year.

Regardless, Robinson is more than capable of handling 20 carries per game. He isn't some 180 pound scat back. The dude is thick and built to carry the rock. 

I know you can't give him any credit though because he's just an "average player" and you have to keep your foot dug into the sand about your stance on him not deserving to be on the top 100 players list etc. I get it though, you put in your heels in deep and you gotta double down.

They better lock him up in the offseason. We don’t need a holdout.

(10-19-2021, 12:14 PM)icey14 Wrote: [ -> ]Running back best friend is a great QB.  we have in the making. These two could be together for a long time.

QB makes everything look better.  WRs are making plays.  TE (Arnold) could be the pass catching TE that we've been looking for forever.  The OL looks somewhat better because our QB isn't holding onto the ball for 20 seconds ..... and so forth.

(10-19-2021, 06:16 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]5.5 yards per carry and they won't give him 20 runs a game.

@don't want to knock that average down@

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(10-19-2021, 09:10 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]Imagine if ETN was healthy this year....

I agree with the guys saying he needs more carries. Dude is averaging 5 and a half a pop. He has very active feet when he runs much like Emmitt and Frank Gore. He should be top 3 in rushing yards with about 3 or 4 more TDs but I’m not sure what Ol Bevell is doing with the play calling.

We got an absolute work horse. He needs about 20-25 carries per game.

I’m also imagining what he would look like behind a good offensive line. The coaches and owner better not mess this thing up with Robinson. I hope the kid doesn’t start complaining about his work load and start requesting a trade and all that nonsense.

....he'd be riding the pine like all of the other rooks?

https://twitter.com/EverydayFFB/status/1...70541?s=20

"above average"