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By taking, "literally, millions of automobiles off the road." Sounds very Free Markety to me.

Obviously, the Democrats are stuck here with wanting to help the environment but at the same time knowing (or at least I hope they know) that doing so will make things hard for a lot of people. So they do and say a lot of contradictory things.

(11-10-2021, 11:22 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]By taking, "literally, millions of automobiles off the road." Sounds very Free Markety to me.

You're overthinking it. All they're trying to say, is they hope that the bus gets so convenient that millions of people choose to take the bus instead of drive. They're not going to force anybody to do anything except pay higher taxes. The free market would still decide which homes get built and who works what job and how they get there. But the market will not truly be free, unless zoning laws loosen up in certain areas

(11-10-2021, 12:57 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2021, 11:22 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]By taking, "literally, millions of automobiles off the road." Sounds very Free Markety to me.

You're overthinking it. All they're trying to say, is they hope that the bus gets so convenient that millions of people choose to take the bus instead of drive. They're not going to force anybody to do anything except pay higher taxes.

Uh huh, sure.

(11-10-2021, 12:57 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2021, 11:22 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]By taking, "literally, millions of automobiles off the road." Sounds very Free Markety to me.

You're overthinking it. All they're trying to say, is they hope that the bus gets so convenient that millions of people choose to take the bus instead of drive. They're not going to force anybody to do anything except pay higher taxes. The free market would still decide which homes get built and who works what job and how they get there. But the market will not truly be free, unless zoning laws loosen up in certain areas

So the elitist in DC want to coerce the masses into public transportation by pricing them out of personal transportation?

(11-10-2021, 03:17 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2021, 12:57 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]You're overthinking it. All they're trying to say, is they hope that the bus gets so convenient that millions of people choose to take the bus instead of drive. They're not going to force anybody to do anything except pay higher taxes. The free market would still decide which homes get built and who works what job and how they get there. But the market will not truly be free, unless zoning laws loosen up in certain areas

So the elitist in DC want to coerce the masses into public transportation by pricing them out of personal transportation?

What do you mean by "pricing them out"?

When they stop trying to hide it. These people hate you.

Joe Biden: "Did you ever think you'd be paying this much for a gallon of gas?" https://t.co/aqi36NkfI1

(11-10-2021, 03:40 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2021, 03:17 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]So the elitist in DC want to coerce the masses into public transportation by pricing them out of personal transportation?

What do you mean by "pricing them out"?

(11-11-2021, 10:26 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2021, 03:40 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]What do you mean by "pricing them out"?

He knows what I meant.  That is why I didn’t respond.

(11-11-2021, 05:51 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-11-2021, 10:26 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

He knows what I meant.  That is why I didn’t respond.

You could have been referring to the price of homes.

Words of the day: put them together and they are the definition of  INTERNET TROLL

-Willful: adjective
deliberate, voluntary, or intentional:
The coroner ruled the death willful murder.
unreasonably stubborn or headstrong; self-willed.

-Ignorant: adjective
lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned:
an ignorant man.
lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact:
ignorant of quantum physics.
uninformed; unaware.
due to or showing lack of knowledge or training:
an ignorant statement.

(11-11-2021, 07:06 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Words of the day: put them together and they are the definition of  INTERNET TROLL

-Willful: adjective
deliberate, voluntary, or intentional:
The coroner ruled the death willful murder.
unreasonably stubborn or headstrong; self-willed.

-Ignorant: adjective
lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned:
an ignorant man.
lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact:
ignorant of quantum physics.
uninformed; unaware.
due to or showing lack of knowledge or training:
an ignorant statement.

I know that gas prices are up.  A lot of prices are up, everybody knows that.  I was just clarifying which price he was talking about.  
Also, I thought we were talking about the BBB plan, not the economy in general.  This is a free market economy, and gas prices fluctuate regardless of government actions.

(11-11-2021, 07:45 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-11-2021, 07:06 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Words of the day: put them together and they are the definition of  INTERNET TROLL

-Willful: adjective
deliberate, voluntary, or intentional:
The coroner ruled the death willful murder.
unreasonably stubborn or headstrong; self-willed.

-Ignorant: adjective
lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned:
an ignorant man.
lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact:
ignorant of quantum physics.
uninformed; unaware.
due to or showing lack of knowledge or training:
an ignorant statement.

I know that gas prices are up.  A lot of prices are up, everybody knows that.  I was just clarifying which price he was talking about.  
Also, I thought we were talking about the BBB plan, not the economy in general.  This is a free market economy, and gas prices fluctuate regardless of government actions.

Prices on literally everything has gone up.  Not sure why clarity is needed.  

Can you name anything to where the new or used prices have gone down?  [BLEEP], I had the garbage man pay me to pick up my trash Tuesday

(11-10-2021, 03:40 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2021, 03:17 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]So the elitist in DC want to coerce the masses into public transportation by pricing them out of personal transportation?

What do you mean by "pricing them out"?

Yeah, he totally could have meant housing prices.

People don't get "priced out" of personal transportation just because gas prices are up. If the bus doesn't come by your house you can't switch to public transportation. People get "priced into" smaller or more fuel efficient vehicles.

(11-11-2021, 08:32 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]People don't get "priced out" of personal transportation just because gas prices are up.  If the bus doesn't come by your house you can't switch to public transportation.  People get "priced into" smaller or more fuel efficient vehicles.

Nobody has made me think about the scene from Billy Madison more than you.

We should do something similar here but with rep scores. You won’t get repped out but repped into another message board. Can we transfer this guys user/PW to cat forum?

(11-11-2021, 08:32 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]People don't get "priced out" of personal transportation just because gas prices are up.  If the bus doesn't come by your house you can't switch to public transportation.  People get "priced into" smaller or more fuel efficient vehicles.

I'm looking at a PHEV on Saturday. Screw all this $5 gas stuff.

So, did anyone start riding the bus due to high gas prices?
Most of you were scared that this would happen.
So scared you called me a troll for not sharing your fear.
How's the bus riding going?

(01-08-2024, 11:58 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]So, did anyone start riding the bus due to high gas prices?
Most of you were scared that this would happen.
So scared you called me a troll for not sharing your fear.
How's the bus riding going?

I'm subsidizing my daughter's fuel expense so she can drive to work. I will not allow my daughter on a city bus that takes her to the downtown bus terminal or expect her to ride it home at night. Fortunately I can afford that but it's an unneccessary strain on her independence and my wallet. I imagine that many people would do the same if they could. [BLEEP] hole.