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(01-27-2022, 10:10 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ] (01-27-2022, 09:58 PM)tkappa511 Wrote: [ -> ]So if the Jags hire 2 black dudes as HC and GM, they have to interview 2 more non White dudes to fulfill a rule that makes sure you don’t overlook non white dudes, even though you just hired two black dudes? Makes sense to me!
Yep it's dumb but even if you want to hire a minority you still gotta interview 2 of them for HC or GM (only 1 for a coordinator or lower job I believe). We interviewed Caldwell so Byron is in the clear, but we're gonna have to interview someone else for GM it appears.
People misunderstand the point of the rule. The reason is to get more minority assistant coaches/candidates more interview experience. It was found that there’s a link between first time interviewers and their hire rate. Their inexperience put them at a severe disadvantage; if the odds increased being hired the 2nd interview cycle through, the idea is that doing this even though we know Adrian Wilson is guaranteed the position is to get another minority candidate the experience of talking to ownership and laying out their vision so they can get good feedback and make the most of their next interview opportunity and the result being more minority coaches being hired for top roles. I think the idea has merit.
Been on twitter for the ride of a lifetime for the past 2 days... just waiting for the final announcement. It's really aggravating.
A lot of times I thought if you fire the coach, the gm gets fired too. I dont see what the problem is here. Just let balkie go. I'm actually not like many here so obsessed with his firing but if it calms the balkie haters down, then for the love of not having to continue reading the fire balkie complaining anymore lol
(01-28-2022, 01:50 AM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]A lot of times I thought if you fire the coach, the gm gets fired too. I dont see what the problem is here. Just let balkie go. I'm actually not like many here so obsessed with his firing but if it calms the balkie haters down, then for the love of not having to continue reading the fire balkie complaining anymore lol
#FireBaalke
(01-28-2022, 01:43 AM)Firesky Wrote: [ -> ] (01-27-2022, 10:10 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Yep it's dumb but even if you want to hire a minority you still gotta interview 2 of them for HC or GM (only 1 for a coordinator or lower job I believe). We interviewed Caldwell so Byron is in the clear, but we're gonna have to interview someone else for GM it appears.
People misunderstand the point of the rule. The reason is to get more minority assistant coaches/candidates more interview experience. It was found that there’s a link between the inexperience of first time interviewers being at a disadvantage to being hired, the odds increased of being hired the 2nd interview cycle through, the idea is that doing this even though we know Adrian Wilson is guaranteed the position is to get another minority candidate the experience of talking to ownership and laying out their vision so they can get good feedback and make the most of their next interview opportunity and the result being more minority coaches being hired for top roles. I think the idea has merit.
That is understandable. It’s just odd that you are using the biggest possible stage for practice? It’s good in theory. but isn’t it a bit disingenuous to ask someone to go for something if you are not going to give it to them? How would you know if you are being prepared for an actual interview process if there is a chance one side treated it as just a formality with no actual intent? Would that be considered genuine experience? I feel like at some levels things have to happen organically.
(01-28-2022, 01:55 AM)JagsorDie Wrote: [ -> ] (01-28-2022, 01:43 AM)Firesky Wrote: [ -> ]People misunderstand the point of the rule. The reason is to get more minority assistant coaches/candidates more interview experience. It was found that there’s a link between the inexperience of first time interviewers being at a disadvantage to being hired, the odds increased of being hired the 2nd interview cycle through, the idea is that doing this even though we know Adrian Wilson is guaranteed the position is to get another minority candidate the experience of talking to ownership and laying out their vision so they can get good feedback and make the most of their next interview opportunity and the result being more minority coaches being hired for top roles. I think the idea has merit.
That is understandable. It’s just odd that you are using the biggest possible stage for practice? It’s good in theory. but isn’t it a bit disingenuous to ask someone to go for something if you are not going to give it to them? How would you know if you are being prepared for an actual interview process if there is a chance one side treated it as just a formality with no actual intent? Would that be considered genuine experience? I feel like at some levels things have to happen organically.
Not in this new way of doing things. The appearance is more important than the action. How to destroy merit and act like you are fixing the world.
Problem is it isn't good enough becauser there will be new standards to interview. We will need to interview the left handed football hater that was top of the class at take out studies if you carry this out further.
(01-28-2022, 01:43 AM)Firesky Wrote: [ -> ] (01-27-2022, 10:10 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Yep it's dumb but even if you want to hire a minority you still gotta interview 2 of them for HC or GM (only 1 for a coordinator or lower job I believe). We interviewed Caldwell so Byron is in the clear, but we're gonna have to interview someone else for GM it appears.
People misunderstand the point of the rule. The reason is to get more minority assistant coaches/candidates more interview experience. It was found that there’s a link between first time interviewers and their hire rate. Their inexperience put them at a severe disadvantage; if the odds increased being hired the 2nd interview cycle through, the idea is that doing this even though we know Adrian Wilson is guaranteed the position is to get another minority candidate the experience of talking to ownership and laying out their vision so they can get good feedback and make the most of their next interview opportunity and the result being more minority coaches being hired for top roles. I think the idea has merit.
No one gains experience from formality interviews. They are literally interviewing you to meet the rule. It’s a dated rule that I don’t think is even needed anymore, especially if you’re initial interview process lands you with a minority. The mental gymnastics needed to make sense of it is incredible.
Welll
It’s not looking good again folks
(01-28-2022, 09:25 AM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]Welll
It’s not looking good again folks
Byron probably rightfully objecting to Baalke staying in the building in any capacity.
(01-28-2022, 09:36 AM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ] (01-28-2022, 09:25 AM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]Welll
It’s not looking good again folks
Byron probably rightfully objecting to Baalke staying in the building in any capacity.
It's Khan's ego. That's what it comes down to
(01-27-2022, 12:53 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]In the article it says Byron have an ultimatum. Him or Baalke. Even if it doesn’t happen. Way to go BL! And if it does happen, he almost becomes legendary right off the bat.
Can’t wait to see this become official
I saw a comment or a tweet somewhere that if Byron makes this happen the fans will throw a parade, no SB win necessary.
(01-28-2022, 09:48 AM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ] (01-28-2022, 09:36 AM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Byron probably rightfully objecting to Baalke staying in the building in any capacity.
It's Khan's ego. That's what it comes down to
Great. So what's happening now?
(01-27-2022, 01:02 PM)MoJagFan Wrote: [ -> ] (01-27-2022, 12:58 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]In regards to the 99.9%...somewhere Baalke is slithering into a crevice in his office and telling himself so you're saying there's a chance.
Don't under estimate the serpent. They have a way of whispering in your ear. Stay away from the serpent Khan, just stay away.
we need the "don't believe his lies" polaroid from Memento with Baalke's face on it.
(01-28-2022, 09:52 AM)Khan Artist Wrote: [ -> ] (01-28-2022, 09:48 AM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]It's Khan's ego. That's what it comes down to
Great. So what's happening now?
From the Leftwich thread:
The Rooney rule is what held up the final signing.
In that wait interim, khan basically thought they were rushing, and it didn’t sit right with him that Byron basically forced an ultimatum. He thinks by firing baalke he lets Byron “win”. He told Tony this is his team, and is now considering restarting the process of looking for a coach.
My source says it’s now 50/50 if this Wilson/ Leftwich deal goes through. Tony is trying but khan basically told his son to screw off because it’s his team. Not Tony’s.
Khan is now basically stalling so he can "not make a panicky decision". SMH
(01-27-2022, 03:14 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ] (01-27-2022, 03:07 PM)Jagulars Wrote: [ -> ]I'm good with Wilson being the new GM if this happens.
it would make feel a lot better about having Leftwich as HC
How so?
You were opposed to a first-time HC, but if we also bring in a first-time GM, all is well? I'm cornfused.
(01-28-2022, 09:54 AM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ] (01-28-2022, 09:52 AM)Khan Artist Wrote: [ -> ]Great. So what's happening now?
From the Leftwich thread:
The Rooney rule is what held up the final signing.
In that wait interim, khan basically thought they were rushing, and it didn’t sit right with him that Byron basically forced an ultimatum. He thinks by firing baalke he lets Byron “win”. He told Tony this is his team, and is now considering restarting the process of looking for a coach.
My source says it’s now 50/50 if this Wilson/ Leftwich deal goes through. Tony is trying but khan basically told his son to screw off because it’s his team. Not Tony’s.
Khan is now basically stalling so he can "not make a panicky decision". SMH
He's already dragged this out so long, he looks foolish.
(01-27-2022, 04:27 PM)snowwolf776 Wrote: [ -> ]I told my dad about this,he just had a fit saying its a bad idea caause hes getting his boss fired he isn't a team player. It seems my dad is only one i know who wants to keep Balke,and says theres no reason to fire him.
...that should tell you everything you need to know about anyone's opinion, whether they are your dad or not.
If your dad values team players, I suggest he study up on Trent's resume. It ain't pretty from a collaboration standpoint.
None of this should come as a surprise. The same owner that let one winning season lead him around by the nose for 3 years is easily influenced by one meaningless win. I mean look at what Baalke's team did that one week once Myer was gone?
It is crazy that this is the end of the line for me. This is foolish behavior. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Sheesh. Hopefully there is some kind of positive break through here sometime today.
(01-28-2022, 10:01 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (01-27-2022, 04:27 PM)snowwolf776 Wrote: [ -> ]I told my dad about this,he just had a fit saying its a bad idea caause hes getting his boss fired he isn't a team player. It seems my dad is only one i know who wants to keep Balke,and says theres no reason to fire him.
...that should tell you everything you need to know about anyone's opinion, whether they are your dad or not.
If your dad values team players, I suggest he study up on Trent's resume. It ain't pretty from a collaboration standpoint.
Maybe his dad is Shad..??
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