(05-12-2022, 12:22 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (05-12-2022, 12:12 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Under no circumstance should anyone protest outside of someone's house. The person you're protesting against is not the only one who lives in that house and the neighborhood. Innocent people, especially kids and the elderly, should not be subjected to intimidation that has exactly nothing to do with them.
Protest the workplace. Leave others out of it.
I agree it's a crappy thing to do.
But I don't think it should be illegal.
If it keeps the rabid radicals away from people's homes and families I'm for it being illegal. We live in a time when there is no respect for personal boundaries.
One's rights end where another's begin. People may have the right to protest but that doesn't mean they should when it comes to a situation like the one we're talking about. People who live in the home and neighborhood have the right to privacy, safety, etc.
If they want to protest a workplace so be it as long as no one is being physically intimidated or assaulted and that includes employees and patrons.
(05-12-2022, 12:43 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Should walking through the Capitol building be illegal? After the police say you can come in?
No. Of course not. One guy was prosecuted for that and he was rightly acquitted.
But anyone in that category came through only after others had illegally attacked police.
Get it now?
I've been getting it. People broke the law when they did that to "make their voice heard." They were the minority, but it framed your whole outlook of the event. A similar thing is occurring now
(05-12-2022, 12:47 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-12-2022, 12:22 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]I agree it's a crappy thing to do.
But I don't think it should be illegal.
If it keeps the rabid radicals away from people's homes and families I'm for it being illegal. We live in a time when there is no respect for personal boundaries.
One's rights end where another's begin. People may have the right to protest but that doesn't mean they should when it comes to a situation like the one we're talking about. People who live in the home and neighborhood have the right to privacy, safety, etc.
If they want to protest a workplace so be it as long as no one is being physically intimidated or assaulted and that includes employees and patrons.
I agree there should be boundaries, but I think for something as serious as undemocratically overturning a half century of legal precedent regarding the human reproduction we are all products of, we can tolerate a little bit of violation of personal bubbles. We have to put on our big kid undies and deal with the consequences of this.
I draw the line a bit further down than you, at violence and at disobeying the police.
These judges and their neighbors are big boys and girls and they can handle a little bit of protest.
(05-12-2022, 12:43 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Should walking through the Capitol building be illegal? After the police say you can come in?
That depends, are you wearing a red hat?
(05-12-2022, 01:25 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]I've been getting it. People broke the law when they did that to "make their voice heard." They were the minority, but it framed your whole outlook of the event. A similar thing is occurring now
Has any protestor entered any residence or official office of any judge? Has any judge been prevented from coming and going as they please?
(05-12-2022, 09:34 AM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not so sure that it's a felony, but it is against the law.
Federal U.S. code 1507
Quote:Whoever, with the intent of interfering with, obstructing, or impeding the administration of justice, or with the intent of influencing any judge, juror, witness, or court officer, in the discharge of his duty, pickets or parades in or near a building housing a court of the United States, or in or near a building or residence occupied or used by such judge, juror, witness, or court officer, or with such intent uses any sound-truck or similar device or resorts to any other demonstration in or near any such building or residence, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
Nothing in this section shall interfere with or prevent the exercise by any court of the United States of its power to punish for contempt.
I may have misspoken, I know there are federal and state laws. I'll have to look for what I saw previously. The additional laws at the state level that may have made it a felony.
(05-12-2022, 12:22 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (05-12-2022, 12:12 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Under no circumstance should anyone protest outside of someone's house. The person you're protesting against is not the only one who lives in that house and the neighborhood. Innocent people, especially kids and the elderly, should not be subjected to intimidation that has exactly nothing to do with them.
Protest the workplace. Leave others out of it.
I agree it's a crappy thing to do.
But I don't think it should be illegal.
Sorry bud. It should be illegal.
Hate the person, camp out in front of the Supreme Court, take it to the streets. But it's a bridge too far to protest outside of a person's home.
Too many nutters.....too many guns....too much of a risk
Rep. Cawthorn Proposes Bill Requiring CDC to Include Abortions in US Death Rates
Rep. Madison Cawthorn, R-N.C., introduced House legislation Thursday that would require the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to include abortions into the annual count of child deaths.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/house-...7Wtnoepkuk
(05-13-2022, 07:57 AM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]Rep. Cawthorn Proposes Bill Requiring CDC to Include Abortions in US Death Rates
Rep. Madison Cawthorn, R-N.C., introduced House legislation Thursday that would require the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to include abortions into the annual count of child deaths.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/house-...7Wtnoepkuk
I'm on board as long as they try to separate intentional abortion from unintentional.
A lot of the US has really really bad stats for outcomes for mothers and babies, and we need to confront that.
(05-13-2022, 07:57 AM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]Rep. Cawthorn Proposes Bill Requiring CDC to Include Abortions in US Death Rates
Rep. Madison Cawthorn, R-N.C., introduced House legislation Thursday that would require the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to include abortions into the annual count of child deaths.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/house-...7Wtnoepkuk
That dude is a freaking nutcase. I'm thinking his constituents will be happy when he stops embarrassing them and the state of NC.
(05-13-2022, 02:18 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-13-2022, 07:57 AM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]Rep. Cawthorn Proposes Bill Requiring CDC to Include Abortions in US Death Rates
Rep. Madison Cawthorn, R-N.C., introduced House legislation Thursday that would require the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to include abortions into the annual count of child deaths.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/house-...7Wtnoepkuk
That dude is a freaking nutcase. I'm thinking his constituents will be happy when he stops embarrassing them and the state of NC.
I can buy his claim that he's seen lawmakers using drugs and offering orgy invites. After all, didn't AOC claim the same thing about sexual invitations? But he should know better than the lingerie thing. that's just providing easy ammo.
(05-13-2022, 06:44 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ] (05-13-2022, 02:18 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]That dude is a freaking nutcase. I'm thinking his constituents will be happy when he stops embarrassing them and the state of NC.
I can buy his claim that he's seen lawmakers using drugs and offering orgy invites. After all, didn't AOC claim the same thing about sexual invitations? But he should know better than the lingerie thing. that's just providing easy ammo.
Even if everything he says is true he has done enough stupid stuff that his own character would be called into question. He's been charged with driving with a revoked license twice as well as speeding three times in five months, and has twice in the last year tried to board a commercial airline with a loaded sidearm. The left would have a field day with the stupid things he's done. Oh, and he's a Trump supporter so he has that going against him.
Dude is trippin'.
Yeah, that dude is reckless.
(05-13-2022, 08:28 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-13-2022, 06:44 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]I can buy his claim that he's seen lawmakers using drugs and offering orgy invites. After all, didn't AOC claim the same thing about sexual invitations? But he should know better than the lingerie thing. that's just providing easy ammo.
Even if everything he says is true he has done enough stupid stuff that his own character would be called into question. He's been charged with driving with a revoked license twice as well as speeding three times in five months, and has twice in the last year tried to board a commercial airline with a loaded sidearm. The left would have a field day with the stupid things he's done. Oh, and he's a Trump supporter so he has that going against him.
Dude is trippin'.
Yikes. He's creepy for sure, but some of the publications reporting his behaviour are hack fish wraps. I agree with you tho, he's damaged goods, much of it self inflicted. GOP in NC should be able to do better.
(05-14-2022, 02:31 AM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ] (05-13-2022, 08:28 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Even if everything he says is true he has done enough stupid stuff that his own character would be called into question. He's been charged with driving with a revoked license twice as well as speeding three times in five months, and has twice in the last year tried to board a commercial airline with a loaded sidearm. The left would have a field day with the stupid things he's done. Oh, and he's a Trump supporter so he has that going against him.
Dude is trippin'.
Yikes. He's creepy for sure, but some of the publications reporting his behaviour are hack fish wraps. I agree with you tho, he's damaged goods, much of it self inflicted. GOP in NC should be able to do better.
Here in NC it's on local news and is why I know it's not fake or hyped.
He's also been accused by several women of sexually aggressive behavior, sexual misconduct and assault. He was also accused of similar conduct by a group of alumni from a college he attended for just one semester.
Also under investigation for possible violations of the STOCK Act for purchasing anti-Biden "Let's Go Brandon" cryptocurrency and not disclosing it.
Who knew there was Let's Go Brandon cryptocurrency?! Lol
(05-14-2022, 02:31 AM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ] (05-13-2022, 08:28 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Even if everything he says is true he has done enough stupid stuff that his own character would be called into question. He's been charged with driving with a revoked license twice as well as speeding three times in five months, and has twice in the last year tried to board a commercial airline with a loaded sidearm. The left would have a field day with the stupid things he's done. Oh, and he's a Trump supporter so he has that going against him.
Dude is trippin'.
Yikes. He's creepy for sure, but some of the publications reporting his behaviour are hack fish wraps. I agree with you tho, he's damaged goods, much of it self inflicted. GOP in NC should be able to do better.
This is out of Charlotte. The GOP is tired of his crap and are ready to give him the Marjorie Taylor Green treatment in Washington if he is re-elected, though for different reasons. I can't imagine why he would be back unless he runs uncontested or the other person is worse than him.
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(05-12-2022, 01:38 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (05-12-2022, 12:47 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]If it keeps the rabid radicals away from people's homes and families I'm for it being illegal. We live in a time when there is no respect for personal boundaries.
One's rights end where another's begin. People may have the right to protest but that doesn't mean they should when it comes to a situation like the one we're talking about. People who live in the home and neighborhood have the right to privacy, safety, etc.
If they want to protest a workplace so be it as long as no one is being physically intimidated or assaulted and that includes employees and patrons.
I agree there should be boundaries, but I think for something as serious as undemocratically overturning a half century of legal precedent regarding the human reproduction we are all products of, we can tolerate a little bit of violation of personal bubbles. We have to put on our big kid undies and deal with the consequences of this.
I draw the line a bit further down than you, at violence and at disobeying the police.
These judges and their neighbors are big boys and girls and they can handle a little bit of protest.
Violation of federal law you mean? My gosh. And undemocratic? Is this a democracy? No. This is a REPUBLIC! The rule of law is not subject to the whims of the mob!!!
If I ever see a well formed or compelling argument following a claim that this is a "Republic, not a Democracy" it'll be the first time.
Pure sophistry every time.