So frustrating. You think Trevor has turned the corner after 2 good performances and then he drops a literally 0/10 performance. 5 turnovers by him is unacceptable even in those conditions.
Defence aswell just couldn’t defend the RPO all game. I feel like they called the RPO about 80% of the time and it worked every time.
Playcalling on offence got too cute when we went 14-0 up. Then when we should have leant on the run, especially with Trevor being terrible, we refused to do it.
We had a chance in the end though, and again, like the Commanders game we couldn’t do anything.
Hopefully Robinson isn’t hurt, but I am just mystified why we stopped running him. He is a perfect RB to have in these conditions.
Trevor definitely lost this game. His offense (except Agnew) and coaches did him no favors though.
(10-02-2022, 04:05 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (10-02-2022, 04:03 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]Then you don't watch a lot of football do you... Going up against the only undefeated team in league right now in their stadium in a rainstorm and it literally came down to the last drive regardless of anything else that happened... Your clown dude do us all a favor and cancel your account and leave
Im speaking soley for jaguar qbs idc what other teams do. I dont want to hear about a rain storm because it was one single player dropping the ball to the ground.
Not so. Robinson dropped the ball as well and we got lucky to recover it. Jalen Hurts mishandled a couple balls. Receivers dropped easy passes. So get the heck out of here
(10-02-2022, 04:06 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-02-2022, 04:04 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]You're telling me we're playing a game in 17mph winds and heavy rain and JRob ONLY gets 8 touches? How does this happen? Was Urban back today?
I get it but if you didn't notice we got behind and they were completely stuffing the run
We had a 14 point lead lol, I don't wanna hear that got behind crap. It was a 1 score game for 3 quarters.
(10-02-2022, 04:07 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ] (10-02-2022, 04:04 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]You're telling me we're playing a game in 17mph winds and heavy rain and JRob ONLY gets 8 touches? How does this happen? Was Urban back today?
This was my greatest gripe with today's game.
Abandoning the run game for some weird reason, especially after being up 14-0 in the first quarter.
It would have reduced the number of turnovers potentially, while keeping the Philly offense at bay and churning the game clock.
Sirianni out-coached Pederson today.
Well we only had the lead for a very short amount of time and they were completely stuffing the run... once we got behind I felt that we were somewhat balanced until we were very behind... Then we went to throwing consistently.... But they were completely stopping the run.... All said and done on the road in the rain to the only undefeated team in the league and it came down to the last drive if you look at it that way not so bad
If you want to be a generational QB, the mistakes like the missed Agnew TD and god awful read on the INT deep in their territory can't continuously happen.
Played well enough the last two games, but that was the Washington game all over with the awful reads/throws.
(10-02-2022, 04:07 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ] (10-02-2022, 04:04 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]You're telling me we're playing a game in 17mph winds and heavy rain and JRob ONLY gets 8 touches? How does this happen? Was Urban back today?
This was my greatest gripe with today's game.
Abandoning the run game for some weird reason, especially after being up 14-0 in the first quarter.
It would have reduced the number of turnovers potentially, while keeping the Philly offense at bay and churning the game clock.
Sirianni out-coached Pederson today.
Wet football slipped out of Lawrence's hands twice in the 2nd quarter. They turned both into TDs and it got them back in the game. Too hard to win games when you turn the football over like that and those 2 early fumbles absolutely killed us.
(10-02-2022, 04:10 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-02-2022, 04:07 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ]This was my greatest gripe with today's game.
Abandoning the run game for some weird reason, especially after being up 14-0 in the first quarter.
It would have reduced the number of turnovers potentially, while keeping the Philly offense at bay and churning the game clock.
Sirianni out-coached Pederson today.
Well we only had the lead for a very short amount of time and they were completely stuffing the run... once we got behind I felt that we were somewhat balanced until we were very behind... Then we went to throwing consistently.... But they were completely stopping the run.... All said and done on the road in the rain to the only undefeated team in the league and it came down to the last drive if you look at it that way not so bad
I agree that we were still in this game despite all of our turnovers, which is very promising as a young team.
But I do recall many times where we had a 4-5 yard gain running the ball and then we'd pass it unnecessarily and it led to that Bradberry INT or a 3 and out.
We ran the ball effectively and then completely stopped.
(10-02-2022, 04:10 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-02-2022, 04:07 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ]This was my greatest gripe with today's game.
Abandoning the run game for some weird reason, especially after being up 14-0 in the first quarter.
It would have reduced the number of turnovers potentially, while keeping the Philly offense at bay and churning the game clock.
Sirianni out-coached Pederson today.
Well we only had the lead for a very short amount of time and they were completely stuffing the run... once we got behind I felt that we were somewhat balanced until we were very behind... Then we went to throwing consistently.... But they were completely stopping the run.... All said and done on the road in the rain to the only undefeated team in the league and it came down to the last drive if you look at it that way not so bad
False. Philly got some stops, but not enough to justify the lack of run calls we saw. Not even close. Jags got some stops too. But Philly was persistent.
Too much Shotgun again today. We need to get away from that as the primary formation.
O.K. I was hoping for an different outcome BUT I'm not saddened by the end results. Hopefully this lights a fire Butt Cheek Level.
Time Will Tell.
NH3...
(10-02-2022, 04:05 PM)Khan Artist Wrote: [ -> ] (10-02-2022, 04:03 PM)DangerousBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed, though blame can be spread all around.
Lawrence, Taylor, dropped passes, defense not knowing how to defend RPO. You got to play perfect when going up against the best team in the NFL, and we did not.
Still, young teams have games like this, and the defense did better* in the second half. Regardless, let's see how they bounce back next week.
They are not the best team in the NFL, lol
They may at least be the best team in the NFC. Plus the remainder of their schedule is so soft, they should be the favorites to get the No 1 seed.
(10-02-2022, 04:15 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Too much Shotgun again today. We need to get away from that as the primary formation.
No TE involvement today as well. Two whopping targets split between Arnold and Engram with Zay Jones out at WR.
Just didn't make much sense.
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(10-02-2022, 04:19 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (10-02-2022, 04:15 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Too much Shotgun again today. We need to get away from that as the primary formation.
No TE involvement today as well. Two whopping targets split between Arnold and Engram with Zay Jones out at WR.
Just didn't make much sense.
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I think they were chipping a lot.
Maybe Zay is more important than we thought?
(10-02-2022, 04:15 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Too much Shotgun again today. We need to get away from that as the primary formation.
That too. We've been seeing it since 2003. Shotgun is nice, but it's easier to establish the run from under center.
(10-02-2022, 04:10 PM)TheSchmidt Wrote: [ -> ]If you want to be a generational QB, the mistakes like the missed Agnew TD and god awful read on the INT deep in their territory can't continuously happen.
Played well enough the last two games, but that was the Washington game all over with the awful reads/throws.
This was a lot worse than washington, at least his turnover in that game was basically a last chance heave.
(10-02-2022, 04:08 PM)Ordar Wrote: [ -> ]So frustrating. You think Trevor has turned the corner after 2 good performances and then he drops a literally 0/10 performance. 5 turnovers by him is unacceptable even in those conditions.
Defence aswell just couldn’t defend the RPO all game. I feel like they called the RPO about 80% of the time and it worked every time.
Playcalling on offence got too cute when we went 14-0 up. Then when we should have leant on the run, especially with Trevor being terrible, we refused to do it.
We had a chance in the end though, and again, like the Commanders game we couldn’t do anything.
This. This got them off track from what they were doing well and let big MO switch sides.
(10-02-2022, 04:21 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (10-02-2022, 04:10 PM)TheSchmidt Wrote: [ -> ]If you want to be a generational QB, the mistakes like the missed Agnew TD and god awful read on the INT deep in their territory can't continuously happen.
Played well enough the last two games, but that was the Washington game all over with the awful reads/throws.
This was a lot worse than washington, at least his turnover in that game was basically a last chance heave.
I'm curious what QB lives up to your high standards?
I think we just ran into a perfect storm, pun in tended. Bad weather, QB still growing, and an elite offensive line that could hold the point against our rush. We lost a one score game despite all of that. A year ago that’s a 35-3 loss.
(10-02-2022, 04:22 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-02-2022, 04:21 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]This was a lot worse than washington, at least his turnover in that game was basically a last chance heave.
I'm curious what QB lives up to your high standards?
He will probably say Jalen Hurts, but interestingly jalen hurts grew to this point as well and had horrible games