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(10-03-2022, 08:33 AM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]Peter king this morning:

.3. I think I was highly impressed with the Jags Sunday. Competitive team, hustle to the ball at all times, good edge presence led by Josh Allen. Trevor Lawrence needs to have a better sense of pressure in the pocket and he must take care of the ball better, obviously. They could use a receiver to take some of the heat off Christian Kirk. But Duval wasn’t built in a day.

This is the point that I keep throwing out there w/respect to our New Coaching Staff, New Offensive/Defensive scheme and alot of New players. We'll get there in due time.

Time Will Tell.

NH3...

Feeling a bit more relaxed yet?

What a turnaround since the bye, 4-1, 3 game win streak. Lawrence playing great, D making some big plays, coaches getting us prepared and smart game planning.

What a complete turnaround in one season aswell. Huge congratulations to Doug and his staff for what they've achieved in such a quick time.

I am pretty good on my end. Still want to see a signature game out of Josh Allen and Travon Walker between these next two weeks. We know what we have on offense. We know we can rely on Lawrence when the chips are down. However, I really, really, really want to see Josh Allen and/or Travon Walker flat out takeover a series or two between these last two divisional games.

We need the defense to keep creating turnovers. Which they have late down the stretch during some of these wins but I want to see more. Walker was turning the corner it felt like before he unfortunately had the ankle injury in the game he demolished Tannehill in. I just want to see a little bit more of that to make me feel even more relaxed in the event they win out and earn that 4th seed.

We're getting thinner in the trenches. It's concerning.

You know when I was freaking out?

It was after London... We should have won that game, and Trevor Lawrence was the main reason. I realized, it was partly my fault for using that stupid nick name where you use the first letter of his first name and then the first 3 letters of his last name.

I told myself, If I'm going to be a better fan, I need to respect the QB. Since then, I've only called him only by his given name. Trevor Lawrence.

After all, how can I expect a true professional QB if I'm not going to refer to him professionally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM0X1c7l6M0&t=10s

If you didn't feel this way after London, you're lying to yourself. But! I didn't lose faith where I gave up. It was just time to give the team some tough love. And you know, the rumors are that the team gave Trevor a tough speech too. This game, this embarrasment to Trevor was his turning point.

And then, Trevor became the leader and was able to call out the team in Detriot.

But London, London was the game where Trevor Lawrence was held accountable. And instead of flinching or denying his accountability. He accepted it and did something about it!

You have to respect a man like him. I hope he never loses this as he gains more and more success.

(12-23-2022, 03:47 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]You know when I was freaking out? 

It was after London...  We should have won that game, and Trevor Lawrence was the main reason.  I realized, it was partly my fault for using that stupid nick name where you use the first letter of his first name and then the first 3 letters of his last name.

I told myself, If I'm going to be a better fan, I need to respect the QB.  Since then, I've only called him only by his given name.  Trevor Lawrence. 

After all, how can I expect a true professional QB if I'm not going to refer to him professionally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM0X1c7l6M0&t=10s

If you didn't feel this way after London, you're lying to yourself.  But!  I didn't lose faith where I gave up.  It was just time to give the team some tough love.  And you know, the rumors are that the team gave Trevor a tough speech too.  This game, this embarrasment to Trevor was his turning point.

And then, Trevor became the leader and was able to call out the team in Detriot.

But London,  London was the game where Trevor Lawrence was held accountable.  And instead of flinching or denying his accountability.  He accepted it and did something about it!

You have to respect a man like him.  I hope he never loses this as he gains more and more success.

You got any source to back up this claptrap? Because TLaw has been a stand up guy and the first to be accountable for the whole time he's been here.

(12-23-2022, 03:47 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]You know when I was freaking out? 

It was after London...  We should have won that game, and Trevor Lawrence was the main reason.  I realized, it was partly my fault for using that stupid nick name where you use the first letter of his first name and then the first 3 letters of his last name.

I told myself, If I'm going to be a better fan, I need to respect the QB.  Since then, I've only called him only by his given name.  Trevor Lawrence. 

After all, how can I expect a true professional QB if I'm not going to refer to him professionally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM0X1c7l6M0&t=10s

If you didn't feel this way after London, you're lying to yourself.  But!  I didn't lose faith where I gave up.  It was just time to give the team some tough love.  And you know, the rumors are that the team gave Trevor a tough speech too.  This game, this embarrasment to Trevor was his turning point.

And then, Trevor became the leader and was able to call out the team in Detriot.

But London,  London was the game where Trevor Lawrence was held accountable.  And instead of flinching or denying his accountability.  He accepted it and did something about it!

You have to respect a man like him.  I hope he never loses this as he gains more and more success.

LOL

BULL [BLEEP]

Just because you didn't have faith in the kid - don't try and project that crap on others. 

Pfffft.

October really sucked, lol

(12-23-2022, 03:47 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]You know when I was freaking out? 

It was after London...  We should have won that game, and Trevor Lawrence was the main reason.  I realized, it was partly my fault for using that stupid nick name where you use the first letter of his first name and then the first 3 letters of his last name.

I told myself, If I'm going to be a better fan, I need to respect the QB.  Since then, I've only called him only by his given name.  Trevor Lawrence. 

After all, how can I expect a true professional QB if I'm not going to refer to him professionally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM0X1c7l6M0&t=10s

If you didn't feel this way after London, you're lying to yourself.  But!  I didn't lose faith where I gave up.  It was just time to give the team some tough love.  And you know, the rumors are that the team gave Trevor a tough speech too.  This game, this embarrasment to Trevor was his turning point.

And then, Trevor became the leader and was able to call out the team in Detriot.

But London,  London was the game where Trevor Lawrence was held accountable.  And instead of flinching or denying his accountability.  He accepted it and did something about it!

You have to respect a man like him.  I hope he never loses this as he gains more and more success.

LOL sorry, but this is a load of horse [BLEEP] my man.

(12-23-2022, 08:52 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-23-2022, 03:47 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]You know when I was freaking out? 

It was after London...  We should have won that game, and Trevor Lawrence was the main reason.  I realized, it was partly my fault for using that stupid nick name where you use the first letter of his first name and then the first 3 letters of his last name.

I told myself, If I'm going to be a better fan, I need to respect the QB.  Since then, I've only called him only by his given name.  Trevor Lawrence. 

After all, how can I expect a true professional QB if I'm not going to refer to him professionally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM0X1c7l6M0&t=10s

If you didn't feel this way after London, you're lying to yourself.  But!  I didn't lose faith where I gave up.  It was just time to give the team some tough love.  And you know, the rumors are that the team gave Trevor a tough speech too.  This game, this embarrasment to Trevor was his turning point.

And then, Trevor became the leader and was able to call out the team in Detriot.

But London,  London was the game where Trevor Lawrence was held accountable.  And instead of flinching or denying his accountability.  He accepted it and did something about it!

You have to respect a man like him.  I hope he never loses this as he gains more and more success.

LOL sorry, but this is a load of horse [BLEEP] my man.

No offense but a lot had concerns in October. Including me. That didn’t mean we didn’t think he wouldn’t turn around (except CJB and OzTroll) but that month was tough. Im glad to have Trevor prove me unfounded. But still. Don’t think it was a load of bull

(12-23-2022, 08:55 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-23-2022, 08:52 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]LOL sorry, but this is a load of horse [BLEEP] my man.

No offense but a lot had concerns in October. Including me. That didn’t mean we didn’t think he wouldn’t turn around (except CJB and OzTroll) but that month was tough. Im glad to have Trevor prove me unfounded. But still. Don’t think it was a load of bull

They go 2-2 during October if the Defense doesn't choke away two games by letting the other teams go right down the field in the final 1 1/2 minutes, just after our Offense just took the lead. It was full circle for the team that month. Neither side could get out of their own ways.

The Offense [BLEEP] the bed one week, then the Defense [BLEEP] the bed the next week. It wasn't just a month of bad play from Trevor to garner a bunch of concern. Other mistakes played big roles in those losses that month that weren't just on Trevor.

London game really sticks out. Jags had that in the bag I thought. 1 yard short of beating the Giants, just many missed opportunities against beatable competition. However, we've turned a corner in our worst part of the schedule. All the choked chances go away if we get in the playoffs. Then it's only about those games and finding a way to get a W.

(12-23-2022, 10:00 PM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: [ -> ]London game really sticks out.  Jags had that in the bag I thought.  1 yard short of beating the Giants,  just many missed opportunities against beatable competition.  However,  we've turned a corner in our worst part of the schedule.  All the choked chances go away if we get in the playoffs.  Then it's only about those games and finding a way to get a W.

Yup the London game was not good. Trevor cost us that game 100%.

He played a big role in the tinhorns loss as well that month with a couple INTs, mainly the goal line one. Walker also had a bone head killer Personal Foul penalty that extended their drive that ultimately ended up in their only TD. They would of had to punt if Walker didn't get that penalty.

Walker had another Personal Foul in the clots game that extended another TD drive. They would of had to punt it as well if not for that penalty. The Defense also gave up a TD in the final minutes of that game costing us the win. Trevor had a 91% completion rate that game. He was dialed in.

ETN fumbled at the 5 yard line in the Giants game, which resulted in a touch back for the Giants, taking away points. Riley also missed an XP in that game and Doug made some bone headed decisions. Mainly choosing to go for it on 4th down at the Giant's 20 yard line. If he kicks the chip shot FG, we go up 20-13. Instead they failed the 4th down attempt and the Giants proceed to go 80 yards down the field and take a 20-17 lead.

And as you said, at the end of that Giants game, Trevor led the team down field in 1 minute and ended up 1 yard short of tying the game with a TD. Which again goes back to the failed decision to go for it on that 4th down instead of kicking the FG. We would have only needed 3 points to tie the game at the end, rather than needing the TD to win it.

Those were the 4 games during October.

Oh and I forgot the Eagles game was early on the 2nd, so they played 5 games in Oct. That game wasn't good for Trevor at all, but we all know the messy conditions they dealt with. That games an outlier.

All the credit to Lawrence, Pederson, and really everyone on the team. After the disaster that was October, they easily could have packed it in and just looked to starting anew next season. However, they did no such thing, put on their big boy pants if you will, and we are now on the cusp of not only getting to the playoffs but actually winning the division for the first time since 2017.

I have always had faith in Trevor and knew that he could be the leader and engine that drove this team to success; he has the tools just needed to believe in himself and he has done just that over this stretch.

Just play with the same heart and energy these last 2 games as we have been doing and all will be gravy. Or as my grandma likes to say,

'Just go out there and rip their [BLEEP] heads off.'






*Granny likes the Devil's Lettuce

(12-23-2022, 09:53 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-23-2022, 08:55 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]No offense but a lot had concerns in October. Including me. That didn’t mean we didn’t think he wouldn’t turn around (except CJB and OzTroll) but that month was tough. Im glad to have Trevor prove me unfounded. But still. Don’t think it was a load of bull

They go 2-2 during October if the Defense doesn't choke away two games by letting the other teams go right down the field in the final 1 1/2 minutes, just after our Offense just took the lead. It was full circle for the team that month. Neither side could get out of their own ways.

The Offense [BLEEP] the bed one week, then the Defense [BLEEP] the bed the next week. It wasn't just a month of bad play from Trevor to garner a bunch of concern. Other mistakes played big roles in those losses that month that weren't just on Trevor.

Exactly.  This team is a few plays away from being a 10 or 11 win team right now.  The bellyaching over a team that was overall playing hard, but shooting itself in the foot on a few plays a game during a stretch is pretty wild considering where we've come from.

(12-23-2022, 08:55 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-23-2022, 08:52 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]LOL sorry, but this is a load of horse [BLEEP] my man.

No offense but a lot had concerns in October. Including me. That didn’t mean we didn’t think he wouldn’t turn around (except CJB and OzTroll) but that month was tough. Im glad to have Trevor prove me unfounded. But still. Don’t think it was a load of bull

Yall really gonna keep pretending i said hed never b good huh.

(12-23-2022, 10:35 PM)Butters Wrote: [ -> ]All the credit to Lawrence, Pederson, and really everyone on the team. After the disaster that was October, they easily could have packed it in and just looked to starting anew next season. However, they did no such thing, put on their big boy pants if you will, and we are now on the cusp of not only getting to the playoffs but actually winning the division for the first time since 2017.

I have always had faith in Trevor and knew that he could be the leader and engine that drove this team to success; he has the tools just needed to believe in himself and he has done just that over this stretch.

Just play with the same heart and energy these last 2 games as we have been doing and all will be gravy. Or as my grandma likes to say,

'Just go out there and rip their [BLEEP] heads off.'



*Granny likes the Devil's Lettuce

Agreed.  When a team hires a high-priced free agent, and then starts the season 2-6, with 5 straight losses, the usual thing is for that high-priced free agent to just say, "well, at least I got my money" and have a huge let-down.  But we hired SEVEN high-priced free agents this year, and even at 2-6, ALL of them continued to bust their [BLEEP] to get this season back on track.  Credit to them and credit to Doug Pederson.

(12-23-2022, 06:59 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-23-2022, 03:47 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]You know when I was freaking out? 

It was after London...  We should have won that game, and Trevor Lawrence was the main reason.  I realized, it was partly my fault for using that stupid nick name where you use the first letter of his first name and then the first 3 letters of his last name.

I told myself, If I'm going to be a better fan, I need to respect the QB.  Since then, I've only called him only by his given name.  Trevor Lawrence. 

After all, how can I expect a true professional QB if I'm not going to refer to him professionally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM0X1c7l6M0&t=10s

If you didn't feel this way after London, you're lying to yourself.  But!  I didn't lose faith where I gave up.  It was just time to give the team some tough love.  And you know, the rumors are that the team gave Trevor a tough speech too.  This game, this embarrasment to Trevor was his turning point.

And then, Trevor became the leader and was able to call out the team in Detriot.

But London,  London was the game where Trevor Lawrence was held accountable.  And instead of flinching or denying his accountability.  He accepted it and did something about it!

You have to respect a man like him.  I hope he never loses this as he gains more and more success.

You got any source to back up this claptrap? Because TLaw has been a stand up guy and the first to be accountable for the whole time he's been here.

(12-23-2022, 07:03 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-23-2022, 03:47 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]You know when I was freaking out? 

It was after London...  We should have won that game, and Trevor Lawrence was the main reason.  I realized, it was partly my fault for using that stupid nick name where you use the first letter of his first name and then the first 3 letters of his last name.

I told myself, If I'm going to be a better fan, I need to respect the QB.  Since then, I've only called him only by his given name.  Trevor Lawrence. 

After all, how can I expect a true professional QB if I'm not going to refer to him professionally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM0X1c7l6M0&t=10s

If you didn't feel this way after London, you're lying to yourself.  But!  I didn't lose faith where I gave up.  It was just time to give the team some tough love.  And you know, the rumors are that the team gave Trevor a tough speech too.  This game, this embarrasment to Trevor was his turning point.

And then, Trevor became the leader and was able to call out the team in Detriot.

But London,  London was the game where Trevor Lawrence was held accountable.  And instead of flinching or denying his accountability.  He accepted it and did something about it!

You have to respect a man like him.  I hope he never loses this as he gains more and more success.

LOL

BULL [BLEEP]

Just because you didn't have faith in the kid - don't try and project that crap on others. 

Pfffft.

(12-23-2022, 08:52 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-23-2022, 03:47 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]You know when I was freaking out? 

It was after London...  We should have won that game, and Trevor Lawrence was the main reason.  I realized, it was partly my fault for using that stupid nick name where you use the first letter of his first name and then the first 3 letters of his last name.

I told myself, If I'm going to be a better fan, I need to respect the QB.  Since then, I've only called him only by his given name.  Trevor Lawrence. 

After all, how can I expect a true professional QB if I'm not going to refer to him professionally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM0X1c7l6M0&t=10s

If you didn't feel this way after London, you're lying to yourself.  But!  I didn't lose faith where I gave up.  It was just time to give the team some tough love.  And you know, the rumors are that the team gave Trevor a tough speech too.  This game, this embarrasment to Trevor was his turning point.

And then, Trevor became the leader and was able to call out the team in Detriot.

But London,  London was the game where Trevor Lawrence was held accountable.  And instead of flinching or denying his accountability.  He accepted it and did something about it!

You have to respect a man like him.  I hope he never loses this as he gains more and more success.

LOL sorry, but this is a load of horse [BLEEP] my man.

Criticism of a QB is not having faith? Grow up.

Living in the Jacksonville area, I listen to a lot of sports talk here. It's been said several times that players and coaches confronted Lawrence after the Denver loss. It's the truth. I guess all his team-mates didn't have faith in him either?

I've supported and defended Trevor from the beginning. But the Denver game was un-acceptable. Even Lawrence refers to Denver as a terrible game. I guess Lawrence doesn't have faith in himself and is a clap trap, and all the other fits you guys project on others.

Relax, believe it or not, there will be times when people criticize a QB. That doesn't mean their faith the QB is diminished or that the fanhood of the critic is any less than those that choose not to criticize.

I provided a link that shows you 2 Jacksonville local sports personalities. Both spent most of October espousing their concerns and critiques of Trevor Lawrence. And here you freaking out as if having concern after a month of poor play means that X person is full of [BLEEP] or that X person never had faith in Lawrence.

That type of knee jerk response is beneath all 3 of you guys, whom I highly respect as thoughtful posters here.

(12-24-2022, 11:12 AM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-23-2022, 06:59 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]You got any source to back up this claptrap? Because TLaw has been a stand up guy and the first to be accountable for the whole time he's been here.

(12-23-2022, 07:03 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]LOL

BULL [BLEEP]

Just because you didn't have faith in the kid - don't try and project that crap on others. 

Pfffft.

(12-23-2022, 08:52 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]LOL sorry, but this is a load of horse [BLEEP] my man.

Criticism of a QB is not having faith?  Grow up.

Living in the Jacksonville area, I listen to a lot of sports talk here.  It's been said several times that players and coaches confronted Lawrence after the Denver loss.  It's the truth.  I guess all his team-mates didn't have faith in him either? 

I've supported and defended Trevor from the beginning.  But the Denver game was un-acceptable.  Even Lawrence refers to Denver as a terrible game.  I guess Lawrence doesn't have faith in himself and is a clap trap, and all the other fits you guys project on others.

Relax, believe it or not, there will be times when people criticize a QB.  That doesn't mean their faith the QB is diminished or that the fanhood of the critic is any less than those that choose not to criticize.

I provided a link that shows you 2 Jacksonville local sports personalities.  Both spent most of October espousing their concerns and critiques of Trevor Lawrence.  And here you freaking out as if having concern after a month of poor play means that X person is full of [BLEEP] or that X person never had faith in Lawrence.

That type of knee jerk response is beneath all 3 of you guys, whom I highly respect as thoughtful posters here.

The issue is the premature nature of those giving up on the young man, or expressing excessive concern/critique. 

Those of us who have seen various young QBs go through acclimation processes for 3 decades are more patient - and many of us were still steadfast in October and November that the kid was on his way. 

I'm sorry that you think that isn't logical or possible, but it is. 

I respect your opinions - but I don't like being told I'm lying to myself by someone who is less patient. 
 That's not OK with me. I know what I've been watching and I've seen it all before.

(12-24-2022, 11:42 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-24-2022, 11:12 AM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]Criticism of a QB is not having faith?  Grow up.

Living in the Jacksonville area, I listen to a lot of sports talk here.  It's been said several times that players and coaches confronted Lawrence after the Denver loss.  It's the truth.  I guess all his team-mates didn't have faith in him either? 

I've supported and defended Trevor from the beginning.  But the Denver game was un-acceptable.  Even Lawrence refers to Denver as a terrible game.  I guess Lawrence doesn't have faith in himself and is a clap trap, and all the other fits you guys project on others.

Relax, believe it or not, there will be times when people criticize a QB.  That doesn't mean their faith the QB is diminished or that the fanhood of the critic is any less than those that choose not to criticize.

I provided a link that shows you 2 Jacksonville local sports personalities.  Both spent most of October espousing their concerns and critiques of Trevor Lawrence.  And here you freaking out as if having concern after a month of poor play means that X person is full of [BLEEP] or that X person never had faith in Lawrence.

That type of knee jerk response is beneath all 3 of you guys, whom I highly respect as thoughtful posters here.

The issue is the premature nature of those giving up on the young man, or expressing excessive concern/critique. 

Those of us who have seen various young QBs go through acclimation processes for 3 decades are more patient - and many of us were still steadfast in October and November that the kid was on his way. 

I'm sorry that you think that isn't logical or possible, but it is. 

I respect your opinions - but I don't like being told I'm lying to myself by someone who is less patient. 
 That's not OK with me. I know what I've been watching and I've seen it all before.

Fair enough...  But having a moment of doubt after a month worth of inconsistent play and continued mistakes was cause for concern.

Bro, I still get [BLEEP] on by my non-Jaguar friends for how long I stayed on the Gabbert train.  My brother reminds me every thanksgiving how we almost got into blows that one thankgiving when he was making fun of Gabbert.  It's become tradition.

All I'm saying, is that having doubt is natural, especially after that ugly October.

However, I do give you and others credit for not having those concerns.  Going through Gabbert, then Bortles, then Foles, then Minshew, we've seen so much bad QB play.  Lawrence has never looked like them.  But in October, for that entire month, he was not getting better.  And I think it's fair for those of us who criticized him to have done so.

Those that did not, well.  As Mark Anthony would say, "clearly you are made of sterner stuff"

:-)