(10-30-2022, 03:57 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 03:54 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Trevor sure put them in the situation to give up a 99 yard TD drive with ease huh. Literally one of the easiest 99 yard drives you'll ever see against the worst Offense in the NFL.
It's sad that we have to expect Trevor to lead the team on a game winning drive in 40 seconds every single week. The Offense does their part, takes the lead in the final minutes, only for the Defense to consistently [BLEEP] the bed and let the other team go right down the field and take the lead back. They're professionals on Defense who get paid (some A LOT more) just like Trevor does. Make a [BLEEP] stop for once and close out a game.
And it's not almost always Trevor, his just get magnified because he's the QB. The OL and receivers have their share of mistakes every week just like Trevor. Same with the coaches.
Every part of this team is responsible for this record except the Punter, he's fantastic every week.
Yea say what you want about Dave Caldwell, but he knocked one out of the park when he drafted Cooke. Dude's a weapon. The Kicker Riley Patterson has been pretty good as well.
Total team loss. I’m a big Trevor fan, have been since he was a sr in HS but that end zone pick and the pick to end the game cannot happen. The OL has huge gaffes at the worst times. Stupid penalties, whiff blocks on some nicely set up screens and giving up instant pressure at the worst times.
Everyone knew the D would give up 7 points when ETN scored a 3 minutes left and everyone knew the Jags wouldn’t score when they got it back w 1:20 or whatever it was. It’s like no one on this team knows how to win.
I don’t understand why they continue to call pass plays from the 1… yes Trevor made a bad decision to throw it but don’t even give him the option… run it up the gut 3 times in a row if you have to.
(10-30-2022, 04:08 PM)ClemsonRob Wrote: [ -> ]Total team loss. I’m a big Trevor fan, have been since he was a sr in HS but that end zone pick and the pick to end the game cannot happen. The OL has huge gaffes at the worst times. Stupid penalties, whiff blocks on some nicely set up screens and giving up instant pressure at the worst times.
Everyone knew the D would give up 7 points when ETN scored a 3 minutes left and everyone knew the Jags wouldn’t score when they got it back w 1:20 or whatever it was. It’s like no one on this team knows how to win.
I don’t understand why they continue to call pass plays from the 1… yes Trevor made a bad decision to throw it but don’t even give him the option… run it up the gut 3 times in a row if you have to.
He actually had Marvin open in the End Zone. He puts a little air on that pass and it's likely a TD. Still should have run the ball though.
Was a great play and catch by Simmons. If a safety can snatch that ball out of the air like that from 6 yards away, then I don't ever want to hear anybody complain again about our receivers not being able to catch the ball because Trevor throws it too hard.
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/statu...5321548803
(10-30-2022, 03:40 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 03:36 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ]My man, it happens... All the time. Go see how many drives Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees, and the truly elite QBs of the last eras come back in that exact scenario. You can't be called a generational talent and not put up generational results. I can remember all the Manning years we would go up with 2:xx left in the game and it was like clockwork - We left Manning too much time, he'd dink us/dunk us quickly down the field and score. That's what generational QBs do.
Lol thanks for proving my point...I said a few....and he's not going to be those guys within the games he's played.....non of those QB's came out early in their careers and did it....none.....and even then they also had some other explosive players around them....
(10-30-2022, 03:39 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Yep, also if you score more points earlier in the game you won't put yourself in that position later on
OMG guys..we aren't going to score 50 points a game ....so I get it...you idiots are just going to ignore the fact that the defense can't hold anyone when it counts and it's all on Trevor....
Why you calling people idiots? Glass houses friend, all we're saying is he is 0-9 in those scenarios and he is the primary culprit. 10 point swing and pointing out that was the #1 reason we lost does not make us idiots, lol.
Literally no one said we expect 50 a game, or he should be prime Manning, but he has to show something. And you might want to check your numbers, Manning had 8 game winning drives by the end of year 2. Brady had 3 in year 2. Brees had 4 by year 2. Marino had 5 by the end of his 2nd season. So your blabbering about how none of these guys did it early, its pure bunk. Maybe when you spew insults, a mirror should be present.
(10-30-2022, 04:17 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 04:08 PM)ClemsonRob Wrote: [ -> ]Total team loss. I’m a big Trevor fan, have been since he was a sr in HS but that end zone pick and the pick to end the game cannot happen. The OL has huge gaffes at the worst times. Stupid penalties, whiff blocks on some nicely set up screens and giving up instant pressure at the worst times.
Everyone knew the D would give up 7 points when ETN scored a 3 minutes left and everyone knew the Jags wouldn’t score when they got it back w 1:20 or whatever it was. It’s like no one on this team knows how to win.
I don’t understand why they continue to call pass plays from the 1… yes Trevor made a bad decision to throw it but don’t even give him the option… run it up the gut 3 times in a row if you have to.
He actually had Marvin open in the End Zone. He puts a little air on that pass and it's likely a TD. Still should have run the ball though.
Was a great play and catch by Simmons. If a safety can snatch that ball out of the air like that from 6 yards away, then I don't ever want to hear anybody complain again about our receivers not being able to catch the ball because Trevor throws it too hard.
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/statu...5321548803
He was open but that’s a tight and fast closing window. Too much risk not enough reward for me. The second pick was a good play by the defender, but ugh… it was so Jaguar…
(10-30-2022, 03:45 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 03:42 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]In the last 5 games Trevor has 4TDs 5INTs and about 7 or 8 fumbles. You think that is good enough from your QB? Lmao
Has he put us in a position to win at the end of multiple games....if not most all of the games....Yes ...has the defense blowen those leads.....yes....a lot of them....so who do you think blew this game? Mind you a horrible broncos offense.... If you say Trevor and not the defense you're a moron
Trevor was absolutely a huge part of this los. When your QB throws for 133 yards, and throws 2 picks, 1 on the opponents 1 yard line you wont win many games. If he didnt throw that pick on the 1 we would of won.
(10-30-2022, 04:27 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 03:45 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]Has he put us in a position to win at the end of multiple games....if not most all of the games....Yes ...has the defense blowen those leads.....yes....a lot of them....so who do you think blew this game? Mind you a horrible broncos offense.... If you say Trevor and not the defense you're a moron
Trevor was absolutely a huge part of this los. When your QB throws for 133 yards, and throws 2 picks, 1 on the opponents 1 yard line you wont win many games. If he didnt throw that pick on the 1 we would of won.
Highly doubtful
(10-30-2022, 04:28 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 04:27 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Trevor was absolutely a huge part of this los. When your QB throws for 133 yards, and throws 2 picks, 1 on the opponents 1 yard line you wont win many games. If he didnt throw that pick on the 1 we would of won.
Highly doubtful
We lost by 4 and that would of gave us 7. I think we would have
(10-30-2022, 04:29 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 04:28 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Highly doubtful
We lost by 4 and that would of gave us 7. I think we would have
Naw the defense still would of found a way to mess it up.
(10-30-2022, 03:36 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 03:07 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ]We would have even more wins if Trevor wasn't making so many unforced errors that allow the defense to be put into those situations in the first place..
Even when the defense gives up the go ahead score late, Trevor hasn't shown he can finish a game with a game winning drive.
On defense there are different people making mistakes at different times. On offense, it's almost always Trevor who is making the key mistakes.
What the [BLEEP] are you talking about....the defense has put Trevor in a bad spot at the end of the game MULTIPLE TIMES.... because they can't hold the [BLEEP] lead.... Trevor in multiple games has taken the lead late in the 4th.... defense blows it....but then it's Trevor's fault because he doesn't retake the lead with a minute left.... seriously are you guys high?
Trevor has put the team in a spot on many more occasions than the D.
The D isn't turning the ball over on first and goal. They aren't the ones over throwing open players costing TDs and third down conversions.
If it weren't for ETN's 156 yards rushing today, we wouldn't have even been in the game.
When your QB is 18/31 for 133 yards with 1 TD and 2 INTs, it's not the defense that cost the game, it's the ineffective QB.
(10-30-2022, 04:47 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 03:36 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]What the [BLEEP] are you talking about....the defense has put Trevor in a bad spot at the end of the game MULTIPLE TIMES.... because they can't hold the [BLEEP] lead.... Trevor in multiple games has taken the lead late in the 4th.... defense blows it....but then it's Trevor's fault because he doesn't retake the lead with a minute left.... seriously are you guys high?
Trevor has put the team in a spot on many more occasions than the D.
The D isn't turning the ball over on first and goal. They aren't the ones over throwing open players costing TDs and third down conversions.
If it weren't for ETN's 156 yards rushing today, we wouldn't have even been in the game.
When your QB is 18/31 for 133 yards with 1 TD and 2 INTs, it's not the defense that cost the game, it's the ineffective QB.
Trevor's had 4 TDs and over 10 turnovers in the last 5 games and he thinks the QB has been good enough lol
(10-30-2022, 04:47 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 03:36 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]What the [BLEEP] are you talking about....the defense has put Trevor in a bad spot at the end of the game MULTIPLE TIMES.... because they can't hold the [BLEEP] lead.... Trevor in multiple games has taken the lead late in the 4th.... defense blows it....but then it's Trevor's fault because he doesn't retake the lead with a minute left.... seriously are you guys high?
Trevor has put the team in a spot on many more occasions than the D.
The D isn't turning the ball over on first and goal. They aren't the ones over throwing open players costing TDs and third down conversions.
If it weren't for ETN's 156 yards rushing today, we wouldn't have even been in the game.
When your QB is 18/31 for 133 yards with 1 TD and 2 INTs, it's not the defense that cost the game, it's the ineffective QB.
Naw the Defense is too busy giving up 99 yard TD drives and 80 yard TD drives in the final 3 minutes of the game vs the worst Offense in the league lolollol
Hopefully the Texans win today and that will put us 3rd in the draft
(10-30-2022, 02:44 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 02:10 PM)IndyJagsFan Wrote: [ -> ]Best part of having a Superstar like Trevor under center is the after game excuses for him. That and seeing who gets to be the new scapegoat each week when we lose. Myself, I like to see the blame spread equally around as I think it builds character for the rest of the team to take a turn falling on their sword for him.
LMAO excuses....I guess we have to dumb it down... did or did not Trevor get the touchdown to take the lead...and has in a few games...was it or was it not the defense blew that lead with minutes left in multiple games
And it was also Trevor who threw an interception or fumbled to end the game on the potential game winning drive in 4 games.
(10-30-2022, 03:31 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 02:49 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]if the D gives up the lead its his job to go down and gain the lead back. He was the first pick overall and in the middle of his 2nd year. He's had 4 TDs and 5 INTs in his last 5 games and a bunch of fumbles. He hasnt been plaing good enough and throws too many costly INTs
LMAO so let's ignore the defense blowing the lead in the 4th quarter multiple times this year....and you think that when we get the ball down by 7 with one minute we should be winning all those game lol....dude I only know a few QB's that can do that and even they don't do it all the time..... Trevor did what he was supposed to do....take the lead at the end of the 4th to win it...the defense isn't doing what they are supposed to be doing.... it's really that simple
No one is saying the defense is good. But how do you always blame the defense and never Trevor?
Trevor played a huge role in todays loss. No doubt. Not getting points from the 1 and then turning it over on the first play of the last drive are killers.
My issue is you have a young struggling qb who has put the team ahead w 3 minutes to go a few times now and the D has to pick him up and have his back. Yeah, he didn’t do enough most of the game, but he (and ETN) gave the D a lead and once again, the D got absolutely sliced and diced.
At some point, Trevor has got to play better. We all have him somewhat of a pass on his rookie year, given the Urban show, but his decision making and accuracy today were not promising. I feel Doug would get a lot more out of vet qb than Trevor, if I’m being honest.
(10-30-2022, 02:49 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 02:44 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]LMAO excuses....I guess we have to dumb it down... did or did not Trevor get the touchdown to take the lead...and has in a few games...was it or was it not the defense blew that lead with minutes left in multiple games
if the D gives up the lead its his job to go down and gain the lead back. He was the first pick overall and in the middle of his 2nd year. He's had 4 TDs and 5 INTs in his last 5 games and a bunch of fumbles. He hasnt been plaing good enough and throws too many costly INTs
Preach
(10-30-2022, 07:33 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 02:49 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]if the D gives up the lead its his job to go down and gain the lead back. He was the first pick overall and in the middle of his 2nd year. He's had 4 TDs and 5 INTs in his last 5 games and a bunch of fumbles. He hasnt been plaing good enough and throws too many costly INTs
Preach
Lol so if we lose the lead with a minute left no timeout and Trevor doesn't do it he's garbage... lmao....he did his job by taking the lead in the first place.....so what's the job of the defense again? So we're just going to ignore the defenses job...got it and let just ignore Trevor had no help last year....3rd head coach... New coordinators... new system...new players..... hardly a typical 2nd year....
(10-30-2022, 08:05 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 07:33 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ]Preach
Lol so if we lose the lead with a minute left no timeout and Trevor doesn't do it he's garbage... lmao....he did his job by taking the lead in the first place.....so what's the job of the defense again? So we're just going to ignore the defenses job...got it and let just ignore Trevor had no help last year....3rd head coach... New coordinators... new system...new players..... hardly a typical 2nd year....
If he didnt throw that pick on the one yard line to the defender right in front of him he wouldnt of had to take the lead with a minute left. We would of already had the lead. We lost by 4 and that was 7 points he lost. The D has been playing bad and so has Trevor. Its funny that you think he played good today lol.
(10-30-2022, 08:05 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 07:33 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ]Preach
Lol so if we lose the lead with a minute left no timeout and Trevor doesn't do it he's garbage... lmao....he did his job by taking the lead in the first place.....so what's the job of the defense again? So we're just going to ignore the defenses job...got it and let just ignore Trevor had no help last year....3rd head coach... New coordinators... new system...new players..... hardly a typical 2nd year....
Trevor has been superb. The defense has let him down and they should be ashamed of themselves.