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Quote:You're allowed to use that excuse once more after Thursday night. After that, that excuse gets tossed out..

I don't think anyone is disagreeing with that statement.

 

The fact of the matter is if they were 4-0 in the preseason, does that mean they will be good in the regular season? No. Did they play well last night? God no. But they do have 10 days to prepare for the Packers when the games actually matter.

 

I'd much rather have a bad game like this one in the preseason than have it count in the regular season. The first drive was moving well until Yeldon fumbled. Should be TD gets called back due to a dumb penalty. Stuff happens.

 

I don't like Gus as a coach at all but we can't go jumping off a bridge after this game. They played well in the 1st 2 preseason games and played very bad in this one. 2-1. That would be a 10 win season. I'll take it.

This is what Gus gets for bringing Charles Barkley around his players. They looks soft as cotton. And Charles loves cotton.

Quote:So let me understand this. The first team Jags played nearly as horribly as they possibly coudl during the first half against a team that many people around the nation think is a Super Bowl Contender. Yet given how horribly they played that half, they were only down 14-3.

 

And even that could have easily been 10-7, if they do not commit two dumb penalties (idiotic pass interference and reported the referees). Sure it wasn't pretty at all, but that is still in the game and not an insurmountable deficit. Consider how last year's team may have been down by 21 or 28 by halftime to team as good as the Bengals are supposed to be this year, especially given they are healthy.


 

 

Well there's the bright side. By projecting your rosy view out to an entire game, the Jags would have only lost by 20-14 had the starters played the entire game.


 

Quote:On top of all that, this is a preseason game that did not count. I'm willing to bet Roy Miller would have played if it were regular season.


 

 

So one player makes all the difference? The Jags can't compensate for the lack of one decidedly average player? I'm pretty sure some key starter will be injured over the course of this season. Does Gus get another year if (say) Telvin Smith were injured?


Note also that the Bengals played without their two best CBs, their top two TEs, and I think they were missing a starting OT too.


 

 

Quote:The Jags only play 4 teams all season with realistic aspirations of deep playoff runs (Packer, Chiefs, Broncos, & Vikings) and most of those teams are more flaws/holes than the Bengals. Even if they bomb those 4 games and play well in the other 12 games, they will get to the playoffs. 

 

Do they need to fix things? Of course. 

Is it the end of the world? No.

 

"Deep playoff runs?" You are limiting it to "deep playoff runs?" Why not just say the Jags only play one team that won the Superbowl last year, wouldn't that be an even better way to spin your point?


I'm pretty sure Houston and Indy both expect to make the playoffs. The Ravens were a projected Superbowl team last year before being decimated by injuries, they could bounce back this year and have a "deep playoff run." I only see four easy games, two against the tacks, plus the Bears and Lions.


 

Quote:Does firing Gus Bradley now solve anything? Absolutely not. It would just means Olsen or Wash steps in, and it would still be the same systems and players, just a different mentality from the HC. Given that Gus has in no way lost the team, why start that now? 

 

On this I agree. We're stuck with Gus for another year. It's too late to change that now. Maybe next year we'll get a coach who can actually win with this very strong squad Caldwell has assembled. Hopefully the young (defensive) players haven't been ruined by lack of development at that point.


 

Quote:This is what Gus gets for bringing Charles Barkley around his players. They looks soft as cotton. And Charles loves cotton.

wow racist much?

Quote:wow racist much?

Wow race bait much. How is what I posted racist in the first place?

Quote:Note also that the Bengals played without their two best CBs, their top two TEs, and I think they were missing a starting OT too.[/color]

Correct. The Bengals were without:

Top 2 CBs: Jones, Dennard

Top CB draft pick: Will Jackson III

Top 2 TEs: Eifert, Croft (Tyler Eifert is a massively important weapon on offense,, the Bengals desperately need him back)

2 OTs: Fisher, Ougebhi sp?


Cincy is missing alot, especially key offensive personnel. The Jags getting embarrassed by that offense was bad,, really bad. Heck, AJ Green barely even played and was out of the game before he could even have any type of impact.


Dalton had scrub WRs, #3 n #4 TEs, and a 4th string RT last night. Geez


Side note: Cincy may be in trouble early this season. Their schedule is brutal, especially early. No Eifert, AJ Green might miss time due to family stuff, OTs injured, 2 key CBs injured, Burfict suspended.


Cincy needs to be able to rely on the run game heavily the first few weeks. The Jags made them look great at it last night, ugh.

Quote:What's funny to me is that we have one of the most talented young rosters (on paper, imo) in the NFL. I'd love to see what Belichick or Mike Tomlin would do with this roster!

This. We'd be superbowl contenders with Belichick.

 Yeah man. Faced that adversity man. Fought through it man. That illegal snap man, but its ok man. Played tough man. Played with that intensity man. We got some things we gotta clean up, but I love ya man. You played through it and we stuck together man. Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah man!

I didn't see anyone acknowledge the guy that brought up the Lions going 4-0 in the preseason the year they went defeated. It's good perspective (I'll leave the 08 Jags preseason reference alone so I can cherry pick). It sucks that we sucked, but there's no turning back now so let's hope they can improve. The penalties and turnovers have to stop, this team is too young to overcome adversity right now.

Quote:I didn't see anyone acknowledge the guy that brought up the Lions going 4-0 in the preseason the year they went defeated. It's good perspective (I'll leave the 08 Jags preseason reference alone so I can cherry pick). It sucks that we sucked, but there's no turning back now so let's hope they can improve. The penalties and turnovers have to stop, this team is too young to overcome adversity right now.

What's there to acknowledge?

Quote:I didn't see anyone acknowledge the guy that brought up the Lions going 4-0 in the preseason the year they went defeated. It's good perspective (I'll leave the 08 Jags preseason reference alone so I can cherry pick). It sucks that we sucked, but there's no turning back now so let's hope they can improve. The penalties and turnovers have to stop, this team is too young to overcome adversity right now.

 

We're not talking about preseason W-L records. In case you didn't notice, we WON last night.

Quote:We're not talking about preseason W-L records. In case you didn't notice, we WON last night.

Agreed.  I don't think ANY Jaguars fan beyond the casual level of fandom is happy with what transpired last night, aside from the overall health of the team.

I'm not happy, but I'm not going to whine about it. What the hell can we do about it anyway? People are losing it over a game that doesn't count, and they should be upset, but still. The friggin game didn't count. I'll hold out hope they bounce back while you guys tell ice cream jokes about Gus.

Quote:This team looks so lost right now, nobody knows what they are doing. We are getting embarrassed on national television and the team looks so unprepared.

2 weeks before the season opener? Start over? New schemes? New adjustments? Are you nuts?

Sure..Gus goes less than 7 or 8 wins..see ya.

But its pre season, two games looked pretty decent. Then again,  coaching from hundreds of miles away and wasting that $12.99 on a Jag knockoff cap must be frustrating

Quote:Difference is teams game plan for this week so its no surprise we  youse guys are getting embarrassed.

More like it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNC3OciAF3w

C'mon, guys. In preseason nobody is expected to play the best he possibly can. Yes, it is bad to see what we did last night, but all of us know what the Jaguars do in preseason is irrelevant on September 11. We all have to think about what it really means to play a preseason game. Coaches are never put on the hot seat because of what their players do in August. It seems like most people want to blame Bradley for stuff that clearly was not his fault. In preseason, NFL fans should be more worried about the players, not their coaches who have good job security.

Because he doesnt know or forgot the rules of the game.

Why do fans (most of which would be devastated by losing their jobs) wish unemployment upon so many people (coaches, GMs, players) that have lives and families to worry about?

 

Because most people are selfish.

Gus being fired would give the weak minded a temporary relief and make them feel better about themselves.

 

Unfortunately the feeling will wear off and they'll be right back to wishing bad things on good people.

Quote:Because he doesnt know or forgot the rules of the game.

Example?