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(03-22-2024, 07:34 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-22-2024, 06:23 AM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]If you lived in Russia, would you have the courage to speak out against Putin, the way you do about Trump?  No, and this is why.  You attack him from behind the wall of freedom it provides, while seeking to deny him the same liberty. 


Embrace it, support it, and defend it, or move out.

  

Nonsense.
I don't know if I'd ever be brave enough to speak against Putin but that's besides the point.
I think Trump should say whatever he wants.  I think you should say whatever you want.  I think I should say whatever I want.  But if any of us, through words, ever incites violence, that person should be punished.  And if any of us, having taken an oath to uphold the Constitution, calls for the end of the Constitution, that person should be punished.

No, that's EXACTLY the point.

For the 327th time, present your evidence.  Note I said EVIDENCE, not opinion or conjecture.  Show me the transcript of Trump calling for an end to the Constitution. Show me where he told people to get violent or break the law in any way. 

You desperately want it to be true, but the evidence just isn't there.

He doesn't need evidence. He has his feels.

Right now, it's the government trying to decide our next election by doing this..

(03-22-2024, 07:53 AM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-22-2024, 07:34 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Nonsense.
I don't know if I'd ever be brave enough to speak against Putin but that's besides the point.
I think Trump should say whatever he wants.  I think you should say whatever you want.  I think I should say whatever I want.  But if any of us, through words, ever incites violence, that person should be punished.  And if any of us, having taken an oath to uphold the Constitution, calls for the end of the Constitution, that person should be punished.

No, that's EXACTLY the point.

For the 327th time, present your evidence.  Note I said EVIDENCE, not opinion or conjecture.  Show me the transcript of Trump calling for an end to the Constitution. Show me where he told people to get violent or break the law in any way. 

You desperately want it to be true, but the evidence just isn't there.

Paraphrasing-

"Be there, it will be wild"
"Mike, you need to stop the proceeding, grab the envelopes, and leave.  Think of it like a football play, you and the others will just leave and they won't be able to continue"
"We don't need mags, just let the people come to me"
"We're going to go to the Capitol"
"We're going to fight like hell, otherwise, we won't have a country anymore"
"Mike Pence won't do what needs to be done.  He is a coward"
[When he knows people who didn't go through metal detectors are loose in the building] "Stay peaceful!"

https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/17...Frx-g&s=19

“Through hard work, talent, and luck, I currently have almost five hundred million dollars in cash, a substantial amount of which I intended to use in my campaign for president. 

“The often overturned political hack judge on the rigged and corrupt A.G. case, where I have done nothing wrong, knew this, wanted to take it away from me, and that’s where and why he came up with the shocking number which, coupled with his crazy interest demand, is approximately $454,000,000. I did nothing wrong except win an election in 2016 that I wasn’t expected to win, did even better in 2020, and now lead, by a lot, in 2024. This is communism in America!

“No trial, no jury, no crime, no victim, only a crooked judge and a corrupt, Trump-hating Attorney General, who takes her orders directly from the White House. Election interference at a level never seen before!!!

“The New York A.G. used a statute to go after me that has never been used before, not once, for such a purpose. It, in and of itself, is so unconstitutional and unfair. Under this statute, I get no jury and have no rights. 

“All decisions and rights are given to, in this case, a corrupt, Trump-hating judge, who came up with a crazy, out of thin air award, in order to damage me politically, and not allow me to use any of the large amount of cash I have built up over the years, through hard work, insight, instinct, and diligence, on my political campaign for president. 

“That is just what crooked Joe Biden wanted this political hack, coupled with a corrupt and racist attorney general, to do. I did nothing wrong! This is simply a “taking.” Much like what is done in communist countries, and will leave an irreparable stain on New York State and its judicial system. It is totally unconstitutional, including the harsh gag order imposed. The statute of limitations was already ruled on, for me!”

(03-22-2024, 08:47 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/17...Frx-g&s=19

“Through hard work, talent, and luck, I currently have almost five hundred million dollars in cash, a substantial amount of which I intended to use in my campaign for president. 

“The often overturned political hack judge on the rigged and corrupt A.G. case, where I have done nothing wrong, knew this, wanted to take it away from me, and that’s where and why he came up with the shocking number which, coupled with his crazy interest demand, is approximately $454,000,000. I did nothing wrong except win an election in 2016 that I wasn’t expected to win, did even better in 2020, and now lead, by a lot, in 2024. This is communism in America!

“No trial, no jury, no crime, no victim, only a crooked judge and a corrupt, Trump-hating Attorney General, who takes her orders directly from the White House. Election interference at a level never seen before!!!

“The New York A.G. used a statute to go after me that has never been used before, not once, for such a purpose. It, in and of itself, is so unconstitutional and unfair. Under this statute, I get no jury and have no rights. 

“All decisions and rights are given to, in this case, a corrupt, Trump-hating judge, who came up with a crazy, out of thin air award, in order to damage me politically, and not allow me to use any of the large amount of cash I have built up over the years, through hard work, insight, instinct, and diligence, on my political campaign for president. 

“That is just what crooked Joe Biden wanted this political hack, coupled with a corrupt and racist attorney general, to do. I did nothing wrong! This is simply a “taking.” Much like what is done in communist countries, and will leave an irreparable stain on New York State and its judicial system. It is totally unconstitutional, including the harsh gag order imposed. The statute of limitations was already ruled on, for me!”

Sad news for the left.

(03-22-2024, 08:47 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/17...Frx-g&s=19

“Through hard work, talent, and luck, I currently have almost five hundred million dollars in cash, a substantial amount of which I intended to use in my campaign for president. 

“The often overturned political hack judge on the rigged and corrupt A.G. case, where I have done nothing wrong, knew this, wanted to take it away from me, and that’s where and why he came up with the shocking number which, coupled with his crazy interest demand, is approximately $454,000,000. I did nothing wrong except win an election in 2016 that I wasn’t expected to win, did even better in 2020, and now lead, by a lot, in 2024. This is communism in America!

“No trial, no jury, no crime, no victim, only a crooked judge and a corrupt, Trump-hating Attorney General, who takes her orders directly from the White House. Election interference at a level never seen before!!!

“The New York A.G. used a statute to go after me that has never been used before, not once, for such a purpose. It, in and of itself, is so unconstitutional and unfair. Under this statute, I get no jury and have no rights. 

“All decisions and rights are given to, in this case, a corrupt, Trump-hating judge, who came up with a crazy, out of thin air award, in order to damage me politically, and not allow me to use any of the large amount of cash I have built up over the years, through hard work, insight, instinct, and diligence, on my political campaign for president. 

“That is just what crooked Joe Biden wanted this political hack, coupled with a corrupt and racist attorney general, to do. I did nothing wrong! This is simply a “taking.” Much like what is done in communist countries, and will leave an irreparable stain on New York State and its judicial system. It is totally unconstitutional, including the harsh gag order imposed. The statute of limitations was already ruled on, for me!”

I wonder where the money came from.

(03-22-2024, 09:14 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-22-2024, 08:47 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/17...Frx-g&s=19

“Through hard work, talent, and luck, I currently have almost five hundred million dollars in cash, a substantial amount of which I intended to use in my campaign for president. 

“The often overturned political hack judge on the rigged and corrupt A.G. case, where I have done nothing wrong, knew this, wanted to take it away from me, and that’s where and why he came up with the shocking number which, coupled with his crazy interest demand, is approximately $454,000,000. I did nothing wrong except win an election in 2016 that I wasn’t expected to win, did even better in 2020, and now lead, by a lot, in 2024. This is communism in America!

“No trial, no jury, no crime, no victim, only a crooked judge and a corrupt, Trump-hating Attorney General, who takes her orders directly from the White House. Election interference at a level never seen before!!!

“The New York A.G. used a statute to go after me that has never been used before, not once, for such a purpose. It, in and of itself, is so unconstitutional and unfair. Under this statute, I get no jury and have no rights. 

“All decisions and rights are given to, in this case, a corrupt, Trump-hating judge, who came up with a crazy, out of thin air award, in order to damage me politically, and not allow me to use any of the large amount of cash I have built up over the years, through hard work, insight, instinct, and diligence, on my political campaign for president. 

“That is just what crooked Joe Biden wanted this political hack, coupled with a corrupt and racist attorney general, to do. I did nothing wrong! This is simply a “taking.” Much like what is done in communist countries, and will leave an irreparable stain on New York State and its judicial system. It is totally unconstitutional, including the harsh gag order imposed. The statute of limitations was already ruled on, for me!”

I wonder where the money came from.

He put your momma to work..

(03-22-2024, 09:14 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-22-2024, 08:47 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/17...Frx-g&s=19

“Through hard work, talent, and luck, I currently have almost five hundred million dollars in cash, a substantial amount of which I intended to use in my campaign for president. 

“The often overturned political hack judge on the rigged and corrupt A.G. case, where I have done nothing wrong, knew this, wanted to take it away from me, and that’s where and why he came up with the shocking number which, coupled with his crazy interest demand, is approximately $454,000,000. I did nothing wrong except win an election in 2016 that I wasn’t expected to win, did even better in 2020, and now lead, by a lot, in 2024. This is communism in America!

“No trial, no jury, no crime, no victim, only a crooked judge and a corrupt, Trump-hating Attorney General, who takes her orders directly from the White House. Election interference at a level never seen before!!!

“The New York A.G. used a statute to go after me that has never been used before, not once, for such a purpose. It, in and of itself, is so unconstitutional and unfair. Under this statute, I get no jury and have no rights. 

“All decisions and rights are given to, in this case, a corrupt, Trump-hating judge, who came up with a crazy, out of thin air award, in order to damage me politically, and not allow me to use any of the large amount of cash I have built up over the years, through hard work, insight, instinct, and diligence, on my political campaign for president. 

“That is just what crooked Joe Biden wanted this political hack, coupled with a corrupt and racist attorney general, to do. I did nothing wrong! This is simply a “taking.” Much like what is done in communist countries, and will leave an irreparable stain on New York State and its judicial system. It is totally unconstitutional, including the harsh gag order imposed. The statute of limitations was already ruled on, for me!”

I wonder where the money came from.

Is that the next pivot? 

My guess would be wealthy people that aren't fans of banana republics.

(03-22-2024, 09:29 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-22-2024, 09:14 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder where the money came from.

Is that the next pivot? 

My guess would be wealthy people that aren't fans of banana republics.

How am I pivoting?

(03-22-2024, 09:32 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-22-2024, 09:29 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Is that the next pivot? 

My guess would be wealthy people that aren't fans of banana republics.

How am I pivoting?

Your next post shows your anger and pivot. You are mad he is using campaign funds for this. Most rational people aren't.

This is exactly what they were aiming for. They want to tie up his campaign money.

(03-22-2024, 09:48 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-22-2024, 09:32 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]How am I pivoting?

Your next post shows your anger and pivot. You are mad he is using campaign funds for this. Most rational people aren't.

I have no idea what funds he's using for this.  I'm just curious how he got the money.  What's wrong with that?

I have said over and over I don't think this trial, or the verdict, or the fact that he has to come up with all that money in a very short period of time, is particularly fair.   I'm not pivoting.  I'm just wondering how he got the money so fast.

(03-22-2024, 08:41 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-22-2024, 07:53 AM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]No, that's EXACTLY the point.

For the 327th time, present your evidence.  Note I said EVIDENCE, not opinion or conjecture.  Show me the transcript of Trump calling for an end to the Constitution. Show me where he told people to get violent or break the law in any way. 

You desperately want it to be true, but the evidence just isn't there.

Paraphrasing-

"Be there, it will be wild"
"Mike, you need to stop the proceeding, grab the envelopes, and leave.  Think of it like a football play, you and the others will just leave and they won't be able to continue"
"We don't need mags, just let the people come to me"
"We're going to go to the Capitol"
"We're going to fight like hell, otherwise, we won't have a country anymore"
"Mike Pence won't do what needs to be done.  He is a coward"
[When he knows people who didn't go through metal detectors are loose in the building] "Stay peaceful!"

Now do it without paraphrasing.

(03-22-2024, 09:58 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-22-2024, 08:41 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Paraphrasing-

"Be there, it will be wild"
"Mike, you need to stop the proceeding, grab the envelopes, and leave.  Think of it like a football play, you and the others will just leave and they won't be able to continue"
"We don't need mags, just let the people come to me"
"We're going to go to the Capitol"
"We're going to fight like hell, otherwise, we won't have a country anymore"
"Mike Pence won't do what needs to be done.  He is a coward"
[When he knows people who didn't go through metal detectors are loose in the building] "Stay peaceful!"

Now do it without paraphrasing.

Why don't you?

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status...RqI8Q&s=19

"This could net Trump a windfall of $4 billion. The President would need to seek a waiver to liquidate his stock before the end of a lockup period in order to use the cash to secure a $450 million bond in the Letitia James, “Get Trump” fraud case to then appeal the decision. Trump has nearly $500 million in cash, but experts claim he needs $1 billion in cash to secure a bond that size.

The merger approval means TMTG stock will trade on Nasdaq as "DJT" as early as next week."

(03-22-2024, 10:46 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status...RqI8Q&s=19

"This could net Trump a windfall of $4 billion. The President would need to seek a waiver to liquidate his stock before the end of a lockup period in order to use the cash to secure a $450 million bond in the Letitia James, “Get Trump” fraud case to then appeal the decision. Trump has nearly $500 million in cash, but experts claim he needs $1 billion in cash to secure a bond that size.

The merger approval means TMTG stock will trade on Nasdaq as "DJT" as early as next week."

Just to be clear, he can appeal even if he doesn't post the bond.

(03-22-2024, 10:45 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-22-2024, 09:58 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Now do it without paraphrasing.

Why don't you?

No. You don't get to paraphrase your "evidence."

(03-22-2024, 01:32 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-22-2024, 10:45 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Why don't you?

No. You don't get to paraphrase your "evidence."

Show the real quotes and demonstrate that my paraphrasing was deceptive if you think it was.