So I wonder if anyone was able to listen to any of Hillary's speech from Nevada on Thursday, August 26th.
I thought the speech did a good job of first making sure that Hillary was not attacking the entirety of trump supporters.
Then she went into a history of Trump from the 70s to the present. From his redlining of blacks, making sure they could not get an apartment in his buildings, to the attacks he's had on women, to the birther nonsense against Obama, to the attacks on Mexicans, to the Alt-right racism and bigotry of his campaign.
I have a feeling this is going to be a theme for Clinton moving forward.
This has been an obvious theme of Trump's campaign from the beginning.
None of his primary challengers were going to mention this as they do not want to alienate a certain wing of the party.
But I think Clinton and her camp have had this in their back pocket for a while. And I think they will continue to use it as a central theme of why he is unfit to be president.
She called him out, but totally gave the Republicans a safety net. I was hoping she would bury the party for allowing Trump to happen. Load the houses with Liberals.
But I do get that she has to work with them in the future!
Quote:She called him out, but totally gave the Republicans a safety net. I was hoping she would bury the party for allowing Trump to happen. Load the houses with Liberals.
But I do get that she has to work with them in the future!
Has one Republican come to his defense since her speech?
Quote:Has one Republican come to his defense since her speech?
This is really a good question... I don't think any elected republican has. I'm sure O'Reilly and Hannity with have a defense of him.
But I think traditional politicians in the gop see the problem with trump campaigning to the alt right and are trying to stay low as to not get hit by any of the shrapnel that is the trump campaign.
Quote:So I wonder if anyone was able to listen to any of Hillary's speech from Nevada on Thursday, August 26th.
I thought the speech did a good job of first making sure that Hillary was not attacking the entirety of trump supporters.
Then she went into a history of Trump from the 70s to the present. From his redlining of blacks, making sure they could not get an apartment in his buildings, to the attacks he's had on women, to the birther nonsense against Obama, to the attacks on Mexicans, to the Alt-right racism and bigotry of his campaign.
I have a feeling this is going to be a theme for Clinton moving forward.
Obviously, she thinks the winning issue for her in this campaign will not be trade policy, or immigration policy, or economic or tax policy, but Donald Trump himself. And I think she's right.
The Clintons weren't born yesterday. They are long term successful professional politicians, and they know how to win. I predict that very late in the campaign, you will see a variation of the famous "daisy commercial" that Johnson ran against Goldwater. "Electing my opponent will mean the end of the human race" sort of thing, with a nuclear weapon going off at the end of the commercial.
The Daisy Commercial
Quote:Obviously, she thinks the winning issue for her in this campaign will not be trade policy, or immigration policy, or economic or tax policy, but Donald Trump himself. And I think she's right.
The Clintons weren't born yesterday. They are long term successful professional politicians, and they know how to win. I predict that very late in the campaign, you will see a variation of the famous "daisy commercial" that Johnson ran against Goldwater. "Electing my opponent will mean the end of the human race" sort of thing, with a nuclear weapon going off at the end of the commercial.
The Daisy Commercial
That is how Bush ran against Kerry. The two central themes of his campaign were flip flops and swift boats.
"I never said or did any of that. Believe me, not Crooked Hillary."
How did her press conference go? Did she say anything good?
Quote:How did her press conference go? Did she say anything good?
Depends on your perspective, I guess.
Quote:Obviously, she thinks the winning issue for her in this campaign will not be trade policy, or immigration policy, or economic or tax policy, but Donald Trump himself. And I think she's right.
The Clintons weren't born yesterday. They are long term successful professional politicians, and they know how to win. I predict that very late in the campaign, you will see a variation of the famous "daisy commercial" that Johnson ran against Goldwater. "Electing my opponent will mean the end of the human race" sort of thing, with a nuclear weapon going off at the end of the commercial.
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Id_r6pNsus'>The Daisy Commercial</a>
Bob jagley is right, Hillary isn't the first politician to run on a referendum against the personality of his opponent as opposed to the issues.
But I'm not gonna sit here and say that it's ok. The sad thing is there are alot of issues that Hillary should be bringing up that are just getting lost in the hurricane that is the absolute disaster called the trump campaign.
Of course, the main stream media would rather cover the horse race and dumpster fire, but I wish she would at least mention campaign finance, or her position on college education, etc...
Quote:Depends on your perspective, I guess.
I don't remember how I felt 250+ days ago.
Quote:I don't remember how I felt 250+ days ago.
Good one! :thumbsup:
Here's a brief exerpt:
Maya Angelou once said: "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."
Well, throughout his career and this campaign, Donald Trump has shown us exactly who he is. We should believe him.
When Trump was getting his start in business, he was sued by the Justice Department for refusing to rent apartments to black and Latino tenants.
Three years later, the Justice Department took Trump back to court because he hadn’t changed.
The pattern continued through the decades. State regulators fined one of Trump’s casinos for repeatedly removing black dealers from the floor. No wonder the turn-over rate for his minority employees was way above average. And let’s not forget Trump first gained political prominence leading the charge for the so-called "Birthers." He promoted the racist lie that President Obama isn’t really an American citizen – part of a sustained effort to delegitimize America’s first black President.
In 2015, Trump launched his own campaign for President with another racist lie. He described Mexican immigrants as rapists and criminals. And he accused the Mexican government of actively sending them across the border. None of that is true. Oh, and by the way, Mexico’s not paying for his wall either. If it ever gets built, you can be sure that American taxpayers will be stuck with the bill.
Since then, there’s been a steady stream of bigotry.
We all remember when Trump said a distinguished federal judge born in Indiana couldn’t be trusted to do his job because, quote, "He’s a Mexican."
Think about that. The man who today is the standard bearer of the Republican Party said a federal judge was incapable of doing his job solely because of his heritage.
All personal attacks and zero policy.
Yet her lemmings are embracing the tactic they criticized about Trump.
Trump must be gaining and overtaking if she feels she's go to copycat him.
Quote:Bob jagley is right, Hillary isn't the first politician to run on a referendum against the personality of his opponent as opposed to the issues.
But I'm not gonna sit here and say that it's ok. The sad thing is there are alot of issues that Hillary should be bringing up that are just getting lost in the hurricane that is the absolute disaster called the trump campaign.
Of course, the main stream media would rather cover the horse race and dumpster fire, but I wish she would at least mention campaign finance, or her position on college education, etc...
There's no reason for her to talk about any issue other than should Donald Trump be President. That is THE winning issue of this campaign, and she is going to drive that issue.
Here's a good part for those that were cruz supporters:
Through it all, he has continued pushing discredited conspiracy theories with racist undertones.
Trump said thousands of American Muslims in New Jersey cheered the 9/11 attacks. They didn’t.
He suggested that Ted Cruz’s father was involved in the Kennedy assassination. Perhaps in Trump’s mind, because he was a Cuban immigrant, he must have had something to do with it. Of course there’s absolutely no evidence of that.
Quote:Good one! :thumbsup:
Here's a brief exerpt:
Maya Angelou once said: "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."
Well, throughout his career and this campaign, Donald Trump has shown us exactly who he is. We should believe him.
When Trump was getting his start in business, he was sued by the Justice Department for refusing to rent apartments to black and Latino tenants.
Three years later, the Justice Department took Trump back to court because he hadn’t changed.
The pattern continued through the decades. State regulators fined one of Trump’s casinos for repeatedly removing black dealers from the floor. No wonder the turn-over rate for his minority employees was way above average. And let’s not forget Trump first gained political prominence leading the charge for the so-called "Birthers." He promoted the racist lie that President Obama isn’t really an American citizen – part of a sustained effort to delegitimize America’s first black President.
In 2015, Trump launched his own campaign for President with another racist lie. He described Mexican immigrants as rapists and criminals. And he accused the Mexican government of actively sending them across the border. None of that is true. Oh, and by the way, Mexico’s not paying for his wall either. If it ever gets built, you can be sure that American taxpayers will be stuck with the bill.
Since then, there’s been a steady stream of bigotry.
We all remember when Trump said a distinguished federal judge born in Indiana couldn’t be trusted to do his job because, quote, "He’s a Mexican."
Think about that. The man who today is the standard bearer of the Republican Party said a federal judge was incapable of doing his job solely because of his heritage.
I was talking about a press conference, not a speech. Did she do a press conference that I missed?
Quote:There's no reason for her to talk about any issue other than should Donald Trump be President. That is THE winning issue of this campaign, and she is going to drive that issue.
Yeah, I agree. Politically, it's a smart move. Doesn't really help the nation moving forward. But then again, the fact is that the Congress will continue to be controlled by the GOP. Which means, the status quo will be maintained.
To be honest, based on the fact that trump is so far out tot he right, the status quo is a better option than civil upheaval at home and potential conflicts with nations over seas.
Quote:Yeah, I agree. Politically, it's a smart move. Doesn't really help the nation moving forward. But then again, the fact is that the Congress will continue to be controlled by the GOP. Which means, the status quo will be maintained.
To be honest, based on the fact that trump is so far out tot he right, the status quo is a better option than civil upheaval at home and potential conflicts with nations over seas.
You expected a Hillary presidency to help the nation? When they say its another 4 years of Obama, it's not a lie.
Quote:I was talking about a press conference, not a speech. Did she do a press conference that I missed?
No. But she did just finish talking to Morning Joe this today at 8:30AM and talked to Andersen Cooper a couple days ago.
Would you like to talk about this speech? Since it is the topic at hand? Here's another good exerpt:
He’d abolish the bedrock constitutional principle that says if you’re born in the United States, you’re an American citizen. He says that children born in
America to undocumented parents are, quote, "anchor babies" and should be deported.
Millions of them.
And he’d ban Muslims around the world – 1.5 billion men, women, and children –from entering our country just because of their religion.
Think about that for a minute. How would it actually work? People landing in U.S. airports would line up to get their passports stamped, just like they do now. But in Trump’s America, when they step up to the counter, the immigration officer would ask every single person, "What is your religion?"
And then what?
What if someone says, "I’m a Christian," but the agent doesn’t believe them.
Do they have to prove it? How would they do that?
Ever since the Pilgrims landed on Plymouth Rock, America has distinguished itself as a haven for people fleeing religious persecution. Under Donald Trump, America would distinguish itself as the only country in the world to impose a religious test at the border. Come to think of it, there actually may be one place that does that. It’s the so-called Islamic State. The territory ISIS controls. It would be a cruel irony if America followed its lead.