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i dont really understand the argument being made. Hillary isn't corrupt?  is that what he's saying?  surely nobody with a working brain would suggest such a thing.

 

"you cant show me one instance of a favor"... you mean get in a time machine and go be a firsthand witness to a political bribe?  no, sorry. i guess not. therefore she's clean. very clean politician.

So? What's the rebuke? What about Trumps dealings with Bank of China, Russia, Goldman Sachs?

Clinton says it's a charitable operation that they get no money from.

Trump won't disclose anything.

All he has to do is release his taxes and be forthcoming. If he is who he says he is, then perhaps he'd be more believable. Surprise everyone Donald. Walk the walk. You might gain something.

Most people should know about the Clintons. So do you go with the devil you know, or the devil you don't?

Throwing stones when you live in glass Trump tower only works for so long.

It's called diversion.
Quote:So? What's the rebuke? What about Trumps dealings with Bank of China, Russia, Goldman Sachs?

Clinton says it's a charitable operation that they get no money from.

Trump won't disclose anything.

All he has to do is release his taxes and be forthcoming. If he is who he says he is, then perhaps he'd be more believable. Surprise everyone Donald. Walk the walk. You might gain something.

Most people should know about the Clintons. So do you go with the devil you know, or the devil you don't?

Throwing stones when you live in glass Trump tower only works for so long.

It's called diversion.
 

you dont see a difference between representing the public taxpayer and operating as a private business man?
Quote:you dont see a difference between representing the public taxpayer and operating as a private business man?
There is none when both are running for POTUS. I want to know about both. You don't. That's fine. The scales should be equal settings.

If Trump was still a private businessman, would we be having this discussion? Cmon man.
Quote:you dont see a difference between representing the public taxpayer and operating as a private business man?


Still seems like your making a stretch with zero facts. So these meetings which are not against State Department rules happened. What exactly are you angry about? Can you provide some facts?
Quote:There is none when both are running for POTUS. I want to know about both. You don't. That's fine. The scales should be equal settings.

If Trump was still a private businessman, would we be having this discussion? Cmon man.
 

But you're comparing a private businessman doing dealings in a perfectly legal manner versus an obviously corrupt politician taking money for political favors.  that doesn't make sense to me.

 

the scales are not even.  Hillary has a proven track record of corrupt dealings while Trump only has private business dealings.  Totally different situations.
Quote:Still seems like your making a stretch with zero facts. So these meetings which are not against State Department rules happened. What exactly are you angry about? Can you provide some facts?
 

Are you that naive that you can't see the quid pro quo nature of Clinton's dealings with foreign nationals vs. the money donated to the Clinton foundation? Do you really need a smoking gun to understand that that was treason?

Quote:Are you that naive that you can't see the quid pro quo nature of Clinton's dealings with foreign nationals vs. the money donated to the Clinton foundation? Do you really need a smoking gun to understand that that was treason?

Treason? I am not even going to bother with that partisan ignorance. I will just laugh at you on inauguration day.
Quote:Treason? I am not even going to bother with that partisan ignorance. I will just laugh at you in inauguration day.
 

Selling US foreign policy for personal gain is treason. Do you disagree?


 

Or are you so invested in circling the wagons around the traitor that you won't believe that she did that without a smoking gun as proof. Never mind the obvious timing of the donations corresponding to the policy decisions. Those were all just a massive coincidence, right?

Quote:Selling US foreign policy for personal gain is treason. Do you disagree?


Or are you so invested in circling the wagons around the traitor that you won't believe that she did that without a smoking gun as proof. Never mind the obvious timing of the donations corresponding to the policy decisions. Those were all just a massive coincidence, right?
First, no I don't believe she sold US foreign policy for personal gain. I think your nuts period.


Second, if she did I fully expect she wouldn't be running for President. Since 1994 the Republicans have been investigating the Clintons and as always it continues to be a waste of taxpayer money.



Do you miss Jeb yet?
I wonder why? Its not like the media has openly admitted they are abandoning their journalistic responsibilities in favor of advocating for the Clintons.
Quote:i dont really understand the argument being made. Hillary isn't corrupt?  is that what he's saying?  surely nobody with a working brain would suggest such a thing.

 

"you cant show me one instance of a favor"... you mean get in a time machine and go be a firsthand witness to a political bribe?  no, sorry. i guess not. therefore she's clean. very clean politician.
 

Clinton has been around for 25+ years. You know what you're getting with her. Don't act like you are breaking new ground. And who do you think you're influencing?

 

I realize you're embarrassed - you fell for the new girl in town and you now know she's been lying to you. You let talk radio and right-wing media talk you into supporting a fake. A fake who is going to lose to a very poor candidate. What does that say about your reasoning skills?

 

Because you and the yahoos had to be cool and buy into all the Breitbart stupidity we may be facing a period of Democratic Party supremacy similar to that experienced by the Republicans for the second half of the 19th century.

 

Way to go.
Quote:I wonder why? Its not like the media has openly admitted they are abandoning their journalistic responsibilities in favor of advocating for the Clintons.


Golly since when do we try people in the media. Investigate and bring charges, or move on and admit you were wrong.
Quote:Clinton has been around for 25+ years. You know what you're getting with her. Don't act like you are breaking new ground. And who do you think you're influencing?

 

I realize you're embarrassed - you fell for the new girl in town and you now know she's been lying to you. You let talk radio and right-wing media talk you into supporting a fake. A fake who is going to lose to a very poor candidate. What does that say about your reasoning skills?

 

Because you and the yahoos had to be cool and buy into all the Breitbart stupidity we may be facing a period of Democratic Party supremacy similar to that experienced by the Republicans for the second half of the 19th century.

 

Way to go.
 

Yes, im really embarassed Trump's "180" is actually what ive already said should happen....
Quote:Selling US foreign policy for personal gain is treason. Do you disagree?


 

Or are you so invested in circling the wagons around the traitor that you won't believe that she did that without a smoking gun as proof. Never mind the obvious timing of the donations corresponding to the policy decisions. Those were all just a massive coincidence, right?
 

Treason? Is that what Breitbart is now saying? Is that the new party line?

 

What policy decisions?
Quote:Yes, im really embarassed Trump's "180" is actually what ive already said should happen....
 

lol ... well if you've been saying it ...

 

Lyin' Donald.
Quote:Treason? Is that what Breitbart is now saying? Is that the new party line?

 

What policy decisions?
 

I don't read Breitbart, and haven't seen anyone but me use that word. But that's what it is.


 

Do you disagree that selling US foreign policy for personal gain is treason?

Quote:Here are two:


<a class="bbc_url" href='http://fpif.org/hillary-clintons-state-department-armed-saudi-arabia-teeth/'>http://fpif.org/hillary-clintons-state-department-armed-saudi-arabia-teeth/</a>

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html'>http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html</a>
How many Americans jobs does Boeing employ in St. Louis where these jets were made? That wasn't worth cheering? So we armed an ally? That's not news and Boeing the biggest aircraft manufacturer in the country winning also isn't noteworthy. Did Lockheed file a complaint?


FYI

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/24/donald-trump-used-campaign-donations-to-buy-55-000-of-his-own-book.html'>http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/24/donald-trump-used-campaign-donations-to-buy-55-000-of-his-own-book.html</a>


That was inventive!
Quote:Can't you read. That's why I don't care for The Queen. But you still haven't shown one instance of a favor received. I know, I know, you're waiting for Breitbart to tell you what to think next.

 

Why are you so willing to roll over for Donald Trump? Donald Trump? A guy you probably didn't even think of twenty months ago. And now he's willing to make you look foolish. Oh well, sell your soul for a bad politician/salesman.
 

One instance of a favor received? 

 

All you need to do is a quick search, and even with Google doing everything they can to bury anything about Hillary, there are plenty of reports from non-conservative news outlets reporting on some of the favors received for donating heavily to the family slush fund, er, foundation. 

 

Here's just one example.

 

The fact that you lack the curiosity to dig into this is something I find interesting.  You are happy to hammer Trump, and accuse others of "rolling over" for Donald Trump, when in most instances, that's really not the case.  Just because they're pointing out just how corrupt your queen is (Yes, I know, you say you don't really like her. Pardon me for not buying that line), that doesn't mean they're rolling over for Trump.  

 

I guess ignoring the facts about your queen is a heck of a lot easier to do than actually doing even the most basic research.  It's not like facts are going to sway your vote for her, right?
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