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Quote:you are truly oblivious. it's worse than i thought.

Pot, meet your kettle.

Quote:ISIS was established in 1999. Obama took office a decade later. Declaration of Islamic State (caliphate) was 2006. You are either a troll or a moron. I'm leaning towards both.

You gotta work hard to get a dialog going with him.

Once again Trump was just joking about Obama being the "founder" of ISIS.


http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/12/politics/d...index.html

Quote:Pot, meet your kettle.

 

please explain which part of "THE CIA TRAINED ISIS MEMBERS" is inaccurate.... 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/postevery...c835329c78

 

 

“We had, in the early stages, information that radical groups had used the vacuum of the Arab Spring, and that some of the people the U.S. and their allies had trained to fight for ‘democracy’ in Libya and Syria had a jihadist agenda — already or later, [when they] joined al Nusra or the Islamic State,”

Quote:please explain which part of "THE CIA TRAINED ISIS MEMBERS" is inaccurate....

<a class="bbc_url" href='https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/08/18/the-terrorists-fighting-us-now-we-just-finished-training-them/?utm_term=.93c835329c78'>https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/08/18/the-terrorists-fighting-us-now-we-just-finished-training-them/?utm_term=.93c835329c78</a>


“We had, in the early stages, information that radical groups had used the vacuum of the Arab Spring, and that some of the people the U.S. and their allies had trained to fight for ‘democracy’ in Libya and Syria had a jihadist agenda — already or later, [when they] joined al Nusra or the Islamic State,”

I thought that means it's on Bush's watch - and on Bush's hands...?

this is part of the problem.  people are arguing with me while they don't even know what's happening.

 

i mean, if you want to say, "hey i support the arming of rebels even though they could join ISIS tomorrow. we can deal with them later..."

 

Ok, fine.  Stupid, but ok.  It's that people still are completely ignorant of the fact that we had been training these guys.  People are completely ignorant of these FACTS.  This isn't rhetoric.  This isn't right wing propaganda.  NO, THIS HAPPENED and will probably continue to happen.

I thought you were taking about Reagan's cia training the mujahadeen which eventually became al queda.


Excuse me for not reading your mind.

Quote:I thought that means it's on Bush's watch - and on Bush's hands...?

 

haha. you need to get your timeline straightened out.

Quote:haha. you need to get your timeline straightened out.

Do I?


Or do you???

Quote:Do I?


Or do you???

 

bruh, can you read?  educate yourself.  the article i linked (one of thousands probably on this topic) says in the FIRST LINE:

 

"In recent years, President Obama, his European friends, and even some Middle Eastern allies, have supported “rebel groups” in Libya and Syria."

Quote:bruh, can you read?  educate yourself.  the article i linked (one of thousands probably on this topic) says in the FIRST LINE:

 
"In recent years, President Obama, his European friends, and even some Middle Eastern allies, have supported “rebel groups” in Libya and Syria."

Which is all Bush's fault...duh.

Quote:Which is all Bush's fault...duh.

Under the Bush administration 30,000 Sunni soldiers were fired when we disbanded iraq's military...


Those Sunni soldiers began to organize and eventually became Isis...


So, you're actually not wrong.

Quote:I thought you were taking about Reagan's cia training the mujahadeen which eventually became al queda.


Excuse me for not reading your mind.

 

as much as id like to discuss politics from 30 years ago, let's focus on what's happening today

Quote:Under the Bush administration 30,000 Sunni soldiers were fired when we disbanded iraq's military...


Those Sunni soldiers began to organize and eventually became Isis...


So, you're actually not wrong.

 

did you not see the key word "ALL" in her post?  pay attention people

Quote:as much as id like to discuss politics from 30 years ago, let's focus on what's happening today

I like discussing this stuff with you, but when you write one sentence, there's alot of different things that can be interpreted.


That's why I gave you the "???"


It's all good. Can I suggest that you expand your thought process a little more next time. Or don't. If I need clarification, I'll let you know.


:-)

Quote:did you not see the key word "ALL" in her post? pay attention people

Dude, badger, take a pill.


You're a bit testy this afternoon.

Besides, when you add "duh", I take it to mean sarcasm.


So there's a good chance bunnie honestly thinks Bush is not responsible for creating Isis...

Quote:Dude, badger, take a pill.


You're a bit testy this afternoon.

 

your response to her was pretty smug. couldn't let that smugness go unchecked.

Quote:Which is all Bush's fault...duh.

Your words...


And mine.


But I also blame the regime before Bush 1&2. This goes way back.

Quote:your response to her was pretty smug. couldn't let that smugness go unchecked.

Smug is my middle name. I get smacked by the wife quite a bit because of it.