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Quote:How bout the one where his kids, the kids that the media are saying are his highest advisers were registered democrats as recently as the ny primary?


But, no, I'm sure every thing will work out for the gop...

Anyone but Hillary..

Quote:Anyone but Hillary..

Lol, I get it...


But trump, in my opinion is more dangerous. But that's me. I understand why you and alot of conservatives would never vote for her.

this is the point.  all you have are little social issues that will probably mean nothing vs blatant government corruption and you still vote government corruption. this is classic mental illness.

Quote:this is the point. all you have are little social issues that will probably mean nothing vs blatant government corruption and you still vote government corruption. this is classic mental illness.

Dude, what are you going on about?


What is the blatant government corruption that you are freaking out about?


I mean, you realize that trump admits to paying off politicians, worked with the mafia, and may be indited because of trump university for (among other things) violations of the rico act---not to mention customer fraud.


You're complaint about Hillary being corrupt is because over emails? I mean, seriously? Hillary is a pro big business democrat that is being pressured to the left on economic issues, but this right wing freak out over corruption smacks of willing ignorance or out right hypocrisy in regards to the actions of politicians doing business as usual under the gop banner.


Before you start whining about Hillary's skeletons, maybe you should acknowledge the bones hiding in plane sight by your people as well.


Other wise you come off as being intellectually dishonest. I actually have pointed out my grievances with the Clinton. I'm well aware of the fact that they have sold out workers in the past and have also worked with an heir of superiority and entitlement.


But to act as though gop candidates and spectacularly trump, do not operate within that same filth makes you appear naive at best, or a complete hypocritical at worst.


TL;DR--- To paraphrase Michael Corleone, "they are all part of the same hypocrisy, badger"

so Hillary isn't corrupt? Is that your final answer?

 

both right and left politicians are corrupt. that's the point. that's why Trump won my vote over establishment candidates. it's not difficult to understand.

 

there is at least a chance, however unlikely, that he wont continue with the status quo.  rather than going with the same old establishment Bush clone, Obama clone, Clinton clone, ect.

Dude, go back and re-read my post. She's a pro big business social liberal who has a history of selling out the workers. I think I've made myself very clear that she's been corrupted.


But did you read what I wrote about trump?


Look, I'm not trying to change your mind in that guy. But I'm trying to point out to you that that guy loves wallowing within the muck. He's just as filthy as the rest of them, maybe more so, because as a billionaire private business man, he's had less government oversight than elected officials.


The dude isn't even willing to provide his irs returns.


It sounds like your perception of trump doesn't match the reality of who this person actually is.

Quote:Anyone but Hillary..

 

That's what they said in the Weimer Republic.

Quote:Dude, go back and re-read my post. She's a pro big business social liberal who has a history of selling out the workers. I think I've made myself very clear that she's been corrupted.


But did you read what I wrote about trump?


Look, I'm not trying to change your mind in that guy. But I'm trying to point out to you that that guy loves wallowing within the muck. He's just as filthy as the rest of them, maybe more so, because as a billionaire private business man, he's had less government oversight than elected officials.


The dude isn't even willing to provide his irs returns.


It sounds like your perception of trump doesn't match the reality of who this person actually is.

 

it's all pure speculation that he's "filthy as the rest of them" just like the idiot tax return requests. it's not against the law to withhold your tax returns from the public.  but ok, let's vote for a KNOWN, PROVEN corrupt politician because we dont know what's in a guy's tax returns.  my god you are stupid.

Quote:it's all pure speculation that he's "filthy as the rest of them" just like the idiot tax return requests. it's not against the law to withhold your tax returns from the public. but ok, let's vote for a KNOWN, PROVEN corrupt politician because we dont know what's in a guy's tax returns. my god you are stupid.

Lol, in stupid? Ok...


So we don't know if trump is corrupt when he's admitted several times in almost every televised republican debate that he's paid off politicians to get his way...


But we don't know if he's corrupt?


Look, badger, you may be getting upset, calling me stupid is a clear sign of that. In just pointing out the facts here... you don't like the corruption that Hillary has displayed, fine. But to ignore the fact that trump is just as corrupt makes you look like you're trying to ignore reality.


If you want to hope that trump may be different, that's fine. But don't pretend you have some sort of high ground. Your hopes and wishes that trump will be different is the same as a Hillary supporter's hope that Hillary has changed and is willing to push policy that is geared toward workers.


Your guy is just as corrupt, you were willing to open your eyes and look at things objectively, you'd recognize that...

Bahaha "Hillary has changed" that is the biggest load of crap I ever heard.  Policy geared towards workers?  wth are you on?  that is some good stuff. PASS THAT.  She's a globalist.  Plain and simple.  Trump is pushing a nationalistic approach and anti-trade deal that is ACTUALLY pro-worker. You're living in a fantasy land.

 

Trump isn't perfect. He's just non-establishment. He's been fighting an uphill battle against it the whole way.  Every debate was designed to make him look bad.  That can't be disputed.

 

I don't see how you can make the comparison of Trump being Corrupt without having served in office.  Donating money does not equal corruption nor say anything about taking bribes.  Is Trump getting financing from the mega banks that control the world?  We know Hillary is.  Vote for her. Good decision.

 

We KNOW what Hillary is.  You and the establishment marks who voted for Cruz keep going back to the same cloth.  We know what we're getting with these politicians.  They haven't changed. haha. Trump is at least a wild card.  People fearing the end of the world because of Trump are complete idiots.

 

If at any point Trump turns out to be same old politician.  I'll turn on him in a heart beat.  There's no loyalty here.  Hillary, we already know what she is.  She's globalist scum.

Quote:Bahaha "Hillary has changed" that is the biggest load of crap I ever heard.  Policy geared towards workers?  wth are you on?  that is some good stuff. PASS THAT.  She's a globalist.  Plain and simple.  Trump is pushing a nationalistic approach and anti-trade deal that is ACTUALLY pro-worker. You're living in a fantasy land.

 

Trump isn't perfect. He's just non-establishment. He's been fighting an uphill battle against it the whole way.  Every debate was designed to make him look bad.  That can't be disputed.

 

I don't see how you can make the comparison of Trump being Corrupt without having served in office.  Donating money does not equal corruption nor say anything about taking bribes.  Is Trump getting financing from the mega banks that control the world?  We know Hillary is.  Vote for her. Good decision.

 

We KNOW what Hillary is.  You and the establishment marks who voted for Cruz keep going back to the same cloth.  We know what we're getting with these politicians.  They haven't changed. haha. Trump is at least a wild card.  People fearing the end of the world because of Trump are complete idiots.

 

If at any point Trump turns out to be same old politician.  I'll turn on him in a heart beat.  There's no loyalty here.  Hillary, we already know what she is.  She's globalist scum.

Lol, to think she isn't the more dangerous, least worthy of the two is simply not to be in touch with reality.

Quote:Jt$--- change will absolutely but happen with a trump presidency. At this point, Bernie has said he received 80% of the concessions he wanted on the democratic platform. I would say that's pretty good.


It's not perfect, or ideal, but the perfect/ideal should not be the enemy of the good.

It doesn't do good. He got 80% of words. She does not have to do any of it. He is smiling and lining him up with what is wrong in American politics. I'm sure he was conflicted about it, but it just knocks him down a few knotches for me. I liked Bernie because I actually believed him. Not necessarily his vision or even his policies, but I believe he believed in what he was doing and I saw tape after tape of him going after people because it was the right thing to do. It took him this long to finally get his due and I feel he gave it away for empty words and promises.

Quote:Fun fact -Hillary has promised to campaign on reversing citizens United.


The next scotus will be nominated by the next president. I trust Hillary more than trump to get a judge in that will tip the balance away from the pro citizens United court.


That, in of itself, should be reason enough to vote for her.

Hillary has said a lot of things. I'm just not sure the word Hillary and trust should ever be in the same sentence.

Quote:"I dont think you're qualified if you accept 15 million dollars from Wall Street in your super PAC."


(two months later)


"Nobody is more qualified..."


hahaha. frickin fraud

Ugh...

Quote:Bernue says Hillary will put a stop to all the wealth going to the 1%..and she's a 1 percenter.....

You can't make this stuff up. I still like Bernie the best, but man, his support was like a punch in the gut.

Quote:You're right, I'm not a rube. And I'll call anyone that is duped by a charlatan like trump what they are, rubes. Well, rubes and racists. See, I can generalize just like the best conservative!!! :-) Also, I'm not PC. That's why I call bad cops, "pigs". I'm so sick of tired of the PC police like you conservatives telling me what I can and cannot say. You sensitive little snowflakes are what's ruining this country.


As for how to define an AR-15. I know it was hard to comprehend, but based on the context of my post and who I was responding to, it should have been clear I was quoting another person. That person I was quoting is idiot trump. (Is idiot too harsh? Am I upsetting your PC sensibilities?)


You may want to email trump and ask him what he thinks defines an assault weapon, cuz that's what he supported in HIS BOOK he wrote before he decided to dupe the entire GOP.

You argue against Trump calling people rubes, but support Hillary. Are we really down to well at least she will do this because she never goes back on her word. Or at least... It all seems so, political.

Quote:You familiar with trumps pro choice position before he decided to dupe gop rubes?

Are we really using one of Hillary's worst attributes (not the worst) of flying with the political wind against Trump? How do you type this with a straight face?

Quote:Look, badger, you may be getting upset, calling me stupid is a clear sign of that. In just pointing out the facts here... you don't like the corruption that Hillary has displayed, fine. But to ignore the fact that trump is just as corrupt makes you look like you're trying to ignore reality.

Is this not what you have been doing yourself? It is complete hypocrisy.

I really don't know what to think about Trump.

 

I do know what to think about Hillary, and it ain't anything good.