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Quote:If this keeps on..and I'm thinking it will...Trump will say quite a few more off the wall things. Some may not agree but his " unpresidential" quips, and tweets is going to be his unraveling. Say what you will , but the calling out the judge because he's Mexican... Well, his parents were...was classic Trump. But it's alienating him, even with his party.


Can't wait to hear what he say about a Muslim that graced most of the newspapers today.
 

I think he was friends with Ali, or at least acquaintances, considering he was a promoter of many boxing events.

 

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As usual, it's all a tactic by Donald, but this one has the legal circles buzzing, because it's so beyond the pale.

 

The judge is not allowed to comment on the case, so by publicly defaming him, Donald is berating a man that cannot defend himself.  If Donald suspected the judge had a conflict of interest, he could have had his lawyers point it out before this ever got started.  But I'm pretty sure he and his lawyers had no reason to suspect him of such prejudice, so the case went forward... until it came up within 5 months of an election, and Donald started doing what he always does when he's asked some tough questions.

 

ATTACK!!

 

If it wasn't the judge's last name, it would be something else.  His height, weight, male pattern baldness, the fact that he had daughters instead of sons, or any other stupid claim to discredit someone who he has to answer to.  You'd think as often as Donald is in the courtroom, if he REALLY thought the good judge was unworthy, he'd have buried him long ago.

 

I really don't think Donald's racist.  Narcissistic, oafish, callous, boorish, ignorant, selfish, duplicitous, philandering, and dishonest, but not actually racist.  I mean, he doesn't think lesser of you because you're black, Asian, Native American, or Hispanic.  He thinks lesser of you because your last name isn't Trump.

Quote:Marshall wasn't hearing a case about a presidential candidate who will be going up against the person he's invested in. Not really a good comparison.


Trump's positions on the wall and dealing with Mexico was enough to create questions about conflict. I would venture to guess he's well aware of the judge's resume.


Are you really trying to say there's no conflict here, or that this judge isn't politicized? That release of info stunt he pulled and then retracted says otherwise. The resume just presents a motive for doing so.
 

Marshall ruled on several civil rights cases, after his life had been threatened for his work with the NAACP. You'd think he'd be biased, no?

 

If Trump was aware of the judges resume, he'd mentioned the other stuff, but he made a clear point of the judge's heritage. He loves the trigger words.

 

I need to research the legal arm of La Paza. A previous post from someone familiar with that group says it's their "bar association." I honestly don't know, but I have seen enough of Trump to know he is throwing this judge thing out there to deflect attention from the case against Trump University.
Quote:I think he was friends with Ali, or at least acquaintances, considering he was a promoter of many boxing events.

 

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I'm surprised he didn't tweet "Look at Ali, that African-American. Isn't he great?"
Quote:I'm surprised he didn't tweet "Look at Ali, that African-American. Isn't he great?"


Funny how a white person seems offended by his one comment, but in an interview, the black guy who Trump was referring to, wasn't offended at all.. Agenda much?
Quote:Funny how a white person seems offended by his one comment, but in an interview, the black guy who Trump was referring to, wasn't offended at all.. Agenda much?


White people love to be offended for black people. Don't expect the media to cover the fact that the supporter wasn't offended at all. Donald Trump is slaying political correctness and it's a good thing.
Quote:Marshall ruled on several civil rights cases, after his life had been threatened for his work with the NAACP. You'd think he'd be biased, no?


If Trump was aware of the judges resume, he'd mentioned the other stuff, but he made a clear point of the judge's heritage. He loves the trigger words.


I need to research the legal arm of La Paza. A previous post from someone familiar with that group says it's their "bar association." I honestly don't know, but I have seen enough of Trump to know he is throwing this judge thing out there to deflect attention from the case against Trump University.


There is a link to the Mexican supremacist wing of La Raza, the NCLR, on the lawyers website.

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://larazalawyers.net/id3.html'>http://larazalawyers.net/id3.html</a> scroll to bottom.
Quote:White people love to be offended for black people. Don't expect the media to cover the fact that the supporter wasn't offended at all. Donald Trump is slaying political correctness and it's a good thing.


Sounded a little like a guilty conscious to me..
Quote:There is a link to the Mexican supremacist wing of La Raza, the NCLR, on the lawyers website. <a class="bbc_url" href='http://larazalawyers.net/id3.html'>http://larazalawyers.net/id3.html</a> scroll to bottom.
I followed the link, and looked at the website, and I don't see anything about "Mexican supremacism." Maybe you can point it out to me.


All it looks like to me is an organization that is set up to advance issues that they think matter to Mexican Americans.
Quote:I followed the link, and looked at the website, and I don't see anything about "Mexican supremacism." Maybe you can point it out to me.


All it looks like to me is an organization that is set up to advance issues that they think matter to Mexican Americans.
 

La Raza translates to "The Race", so you tell me.

 

http://humanevents.com/2006/04/07/emexcl...t-la-raza/

 

Here are 15 things you should know about “The Race:”

 

15. “The Race” supports driver’s licenses for illegal aliens.

14.”The Race” demands in-state tuition discounts for illegal alien students that are not available to law-abiding US citizens and law-abiding legal immigrants.

13. “The Race” vehemently opposes cooperative immigration enforcement efforts between local, state, and federal authorities.

12. “The Race” opposes a secure fence on the southern border.

11. “The Race” joined the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee in a failed lawsuit attempt to prevent the feds from entering immigration information into a key national crime database–and to prevent local police officers from accessing the data.

10. “The Race” opposed the state of Oklahoma’s tough immigration enforcement-first laws, which cut off welfare to illegal aliens, put teeth in employer sanctions, and strengthened local-federal cooperation and information-sharing.

9. “The Race” joined other open-borders, anti-assimilationists and sued to prevent Proposition 227, California’s bilingual education reform ballot initiative, from becoming law.

8. “The Race” bitterly protested common-sense voter ID provisions as an “absolute disgrace.”

7. “The Race” has consistently opposed post-9/11 national security measures at every turn.

6. Former “Race” president Raul Yzaguirre, Hillary Clinton’s Hispanic outreach advisor said this: “US English is to Hispanics as the Ku Klux Klan is to blacks.” He was referring to US English the nation’s oldest, largest citizens’ action group dedicated to preserving the unifying role of the English language in the United States. “The Race” also pioneered Orwellian open-borders Newspeak and advised the Mexican government on how to lobby for illegal alien amnesty while avoiding the terms “illegal” and “amnesty.”

5. “The Race” gives mainstream cover to a poisonous subset of ideological satellites, led by Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), which the late GOP Rep. Charlie Norwood rightly characterized as “a radical racist group…[and] one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.”

4. “The Race” is currently leading a smear campaign against staunch immigration enforcement leaders and has called for TV and cable news netowrks to keep immigration enforcement proponents off the airwaves–in addition to pushing for Fairness Doctrine policies to shut up their foes. The New York Times reported that current “Race” president Janet Murguia believes “hate speech” should “not be tolerated, even if such censorship were a violation of First Amendment rights.”

3. “The Race” sponsors militant ethnic nationalist charter schools subsidized by your public tax dollars (at least $8 million in federal education grants). The schools include “Aztlan Academy” in Tucson, AZ, the Mexicayotl Academy in Nogales, AZ, Academia Cesar Chavez Charter School in St. Paul, Minn., and Academia Semillas del Pueblo in Los Angeles, whose principal inveighed: “We don’t want to drink from a White water fountain, we have our own wells and our natural reservoirs and our way of collecting rain in our aqueducts. We don’t need a White water fountain…ultimately the White way, the American way, the neo liberal, capitalist way of life will eventually lead to our own destruction.”

2. “The Race” has perfected the art of the p.c. shakedown at taxpayer expense, pushing relentlessly to lower home loan standards for Hispanic borrowers, reaping millions in federal “mortgage counseling” grants, seeking special earmarks, and partnering with banks that do business with illegal aliens.

1. “The Race” thrives on ethnic supremacy–and the elite sheeple’s unwillingness to call it what it is. As historian Victor Davis Hanson observes: “[The] organization’s very nomenclature ‘The National Council of La Raza’ is hate speech to the core. Despite all the contortions of the group, Raza (as its Latin cognate suggests), reflects the meaning of ‘race”‘ in Spanish, not ‘the people’ — and that’s precisely why we don’t hear of something like ‘The National Council of the People’ which would not confer the buzz notion of ethnic, racial, and tribal chauvinism.”

 

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/09/15-...-the-race/

Narcissists aren't very good at putting themselves in other's shoes.  They think everyone will react the same way to any given stimulus the exact way the narcissist would.

 

In this case, Donald thinks that, because the judge is just like him, the judge would automatically be biased to someone that attacked his (perceived) heritage.

 

Donald never takes into account that the judge really doesn't care much at all about what Donald says, and even if he did, years of legal training and oaths (something Donald doesn't do very well) keep him from being biased.

 

Again, it's a ruse.  It's a little similar to what Phil Jackson used to do with referees - criticize them after one game to get a preferred result in the next, whether fair or not.  Like Phil, Donald's not interested in fairness.  Donald is interested in winning, and will do so at all costs to folks great and small.

 

His name may originally have been Drumpf, but he's all Massengill.

Quote:Funny how a white person seems offended by his one comment, but in an interview, the black guy who Trump was referring to, wasn't offended at all.. Agenda much?
 

Quote:White people love to be offended for black people. Don't expect the media to cover the fact that the supporter wasn't offended at all. Donald Trump is slaying political correctness and it's a good thing.
 

Where did I say I was offended? Trump's shtick is too old to take offense any more.

 

Of course the man singled out by Trump was not offended, he's just like you two. He refuses to accept the obvious, his hero is a fraud.

Quote:Where did I say I was offended? Trump's shtick is too old to take offense any more.


Of course the man singled out by Trump was not offended, he's just like you two. He refuses to accept the obvious, his hero is a fraud.


The voters have spoken. Enough with the tears.
Quote:La Raza translates to "The Race", so you tell me.

 
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://humanevents.com/2006/04/07/emexclusive-emthe-truth-about-la-raza/'>http://humanevents.com/2006/04/07/emexclusive-emthe-truth-about-la-raza/</a>

 

Here are 15 things you should know about “The Race:”

 

15. “The Race” supports <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nclr.org/content/policy/detail/1060/'>driver’s licenses for illegal aliens.</a>

14.”The Race” demands <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nclr.org/content/programs/detail/1331/'>in-state tuition discounts</a> for illegal alien students that are not available to law-abiding US citizens and law-abiding legal immigrants.

13. “The Race” vehemently opposes <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nclr.org/content/programs/detail/1063/'>cooperative immigration enforcement efforts </a>between local, state, and federal authorities.

12. “The Race” opposes a <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nclr.org/content/news/detail/42858'>secure fence on the southern border.</a>

11. “The Race” joined the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee in a <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nysun.com/new-york/judge-rejects-immigration-lawsuit/46324/'>failed lawsuit attempt</a> to prevent the feds from entering immigration information into a key national crime database–and to prevent local police officers from accessing the data.

10. “The Race” <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-10-29-oklahoma-law_N.htm'>opposed</a> the state of Oklahoma’s tough immigration enforcement-first laws, which cut off welfare to illegal aliens, put teeth in employer sanctions, and strengthened local-federal cooperation and information-sharing.

9. “The Race” joined other open-borders, anti-assimilationists and sued to prevent <a class="bbc_url" href='http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:F3i-0YLJWwoJ:www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi%3Ffile%3D/chronicle/archive/1998/06/04/MN17692.DTL+national+council+of+la+raza+lawsuit&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=34&gl=us&client=firefox-a'>Proposition 227,</a> California’s bilingual education reform ballot initiative, from becoming law.

8. “The Race” bitterly protested common-sense voter ID provisions as an <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nclr.org/content/news/detail/2237/'>“absolute disgrace.”</a>

7. “The Race” has consistently <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=153'>opposed post-9/11 national security measures</a> at every turn.

6. Former “Race” president Raul Yzaguirre, Hillary Clinton’s Hispanic outreach advisor said <a class="bbc_url" href='http://sweetness-light.com/archive/hillary-clinton-hires-la-raza-racist-for-her-campaign'>this</a>: “US English is to Hispanics as the Ku Klux Klan is to blacks.” He was referring to US English the nation’s oldest, largest citizens’ action group dedicated to preserving the unifying role of the English language in the United States. “The Race” also pioneered Orwellian open-borders Newspeak and <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2281'>advised</a> the Mexican government on how to lobby for illegal alien amnesty while avoiding the terms “illegal” and “amnesty.”

5. “The Race” gives mainstream cover to a poisonous subset of ideological satellites, led by Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), which the late <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=13863'>GOP Rep. Charlie Norwood </a>rightly characterized as “a radical racist group…[and] one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.”

4. “The Race” is currently leading a <a class="bbc_url" href='http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/04/john-mccain-la-razas-voice-in-washington/'>smear campaign</a> against staunch immigration enforcement leaders and has called for TV and cable news netowrks to keep immigration enforcement proponents off the airwaves–in addition to pushing for Fairness Doctrine policies to shut up their foes. The New York Times reported that current “Race” president Janet Murguia believes “hate speech” should “not be tolerated, even if such censorship were a violation of First Amendment rights.”

3. “The Race” sponsors <a class="bbc_url" href='http://michellemalkin.com/2006/07/12/aztlan-academy-coming-to-your-neighborhood/'>militant ethnic nationalist charter schools </a>subsidized by your public tax dollars (at least $8 million in federal education grants). The schools include “Aztlan Academy” in Tucson, AZ, the Mexicayotl Academy in Nogales, AZ, Academia Cesar Chavez Charter School in St. Paul, Minn., and Academia Semillas del Pueblo in Los Angeles, whose principal inveighed: “We don’t want to drink from a White water fountain, we have our own wells and our natural reservoirs and our way of collecting rain in our aqueducts. We don’t need a White water fountain…ultimately the White way, the American way, the neo liberal, capitalist way of life will eventually lead to our own destruction.”

2. “The Race” has perfected the art of the p.c. shakedown at <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=13863'>taxpayer expense</a>, <a class="bbc_url" href='http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/12/open-borders-and-the-mortgage-mess/'>pushing</a> relentlessly to <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.dailycamera.com/bdc/local_business/article/0,1713,BDC_2461_4090283,00.html'>lower home loan standards</a> for Hispanic borrowers, reaping millions in federal <a class="bbc_url" href='http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/03/the-left-wing-mortgage-counseling-racket/'>“mortgage counseling” </a>grants, seeking <a class="bbc_url" href='http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/05/the-left-wing-mortgage-counseling-racket-contd-la-razas-earmark/'>special</a> <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/014967.php'>earmarks</a>, and partnering with <a class="bbc_url" href='http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/13/wachovia-banking-on-open-borders/'>banks that do business with illegal aliens.</a>

1. “The Race” thrives on ethnic supremacy–and the elite sheeple’s unwillingness to call it what it is. As historian <a class="bbc_url" href='http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OWI2ZmFiZjUyYzBlMzQwOTNjMTNkNDI3ZDllN2MwMGE'>Victor Davis Hanson</a> observes: “[The] organization’s very nomenclature ‘The National Council of La Raza’ is hate speech to the core. Despite all the contortions of the group, Raza (as its Latin cognate suggests), reflects the meaning of ‘race”‘ in Spanish, not ‘the people’ — and that’s precisely why we don’t hear of something like ‘The National Council of the People’ which would not confer the buzz notion of ethnic, racial, and tribal chauvinism.”

 
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/09/15-things-you-should-know-about-the-race/'>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/09/15-things-you-should-know-about-the-race/</a>


Your source- Michelle Malkin, I don't trust her. She's an extreme partisan.


I'd rather look at their website and judge them by what they say, all of which is completely innocuous and in no way supports what Michelle Malkin says about them.
Quote:I followed the link, and looked at the website, and I don't see anything about "Mexican supremacism." Maybe you can point it out to me.


All it looks like to me is an organization that is set up to advance issues that they think matter to Mexican Americans.


Like burning American flags
Quote:Your source- Michelle Malkin, I don't trust her. She's an extreme partisan.


I'd rather look at their website and judge them by what they say, all of which is completely innocuous and in no way supports what Michelle Malkin says about them.


Such a cop out.


THEY'RE BURNING FLAGS AND DEMANDING CALIFORNIA BE RETURNED TO MEXICO!


Someone grab a group of friends try to hop the Mexican border, burn their flag and try to raise the stars and bars. See how far that gets u.
Quote:White people love to be offended for black people. Don't expect the media to cover the fact that the supporter wasn't offended at all. Donald Trump is slaying political correctness and it's a good thing.
 

There is quite a bit that you and I don't agree on, but this isn't one of them.  Especially the part(s) in bold although the first bold statement is pretty general.  I would rephrase it as "some
white people liberals love to be offended for black people".
Quote:There is quite a bit that you and I don't agree on, but this isn't one of them.  Especially the part(s) in bold although the first bold statement is pretty general.  I would rephrase it as "some
white people liberals love to be offended for black people".
 

We agree?

 

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Quote:La Raza translates to "The Race"...
 

While that's technically true, the literal meaning is in fact "the race", but when translating from Spanish to English, you can't always do so literally.  Trust me I know as a Hispanic of Mexican descent that grew up bilingual in the southwestern U.S. (New Mexico to be exact).  As an example, the phrase "Senor Smith tiene ojos verde" translates literally as "Mr. Smith has eyes green", but what is meant in the English translation is "Mr. Smith has green eyes".

 

As it relates to La Raza the organization, perhaps read the FAQ on their website for their explanation.

Quote: 

 

What does the term “La Raza” mean?
The term “La Raza” has its origins in early 20th century Latin American literature and translates into English most closely as “the people” or, according to some scholars, “the Hispanic people of the New World.”  The term was coined by Mexican scholar José Vasconcelos to reflect the fact that the people of Latin America are a mixture of many of the world’s races, cultures, and religions.  Some people have mistranslated “La Raza” to mean “the race,” implying that it is a term meant to exclude others.  In fact, the full term coined by Vasconcelos, “la raza cósmica,” meaning “the cosmic people,” was developed to reflect not purity but the mixture inherent in the Hispanic people.  This is an inclusive concept, meaning that Hispanics share with all other peoples of the world a common heritage and destiny.
 

Now I know this to be true only because I have read a lot of Latin American or more specifically Chicano literature.
Quote:While that's technically true, the literal meaning is in fact "the race", but when translating from Spanish to English, you can't always do so literally.  Trust me I know as a Hispanic of

As it relates to La Raza the organization, perhaps read the FAQ on their website for their explanation.

 

Now I know this to be true only because I have read a lot of Latin American or more specifically Chicano literature.
So let me get this straight:

 

"La Raza" loosely translates to "Out of many, one people?"

 

AKA e pluribus unum?

 

Awesome.
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