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Quote:lol ... what are you, 12? Are you taking lessens from Trump on how to cry? Everyone's out to get me! Boo hoo.

 

Feel free to start your own political party or work from within a current one.

 

I didn't vote for Trump in the Florida GOP primary, but he got all of the delegates. How is that fair? Did I miss your post bemoaning that fact?
 

When I thought you couldn't get any dooshier, you come up with this.  Yes, I'm 12 and I'll karate kick you in the crotch.

 

Maybe the "winner take all" states isn't how it should be, but it doesn't take somebody older than 12 to figure out that cancelling a vote altogether is probably not the way to go.  But then again, we're one step closer to having phony elections where one guy is re-elected over and over like many other countries.  Cant wait for that!

 

Two parties have complete control.  Feel free to start your own country.  Whiner.

There's a fundamental difference between a representative republic and the establishment playing red rover red rover with the American people.


When most of the voters in a given state don't know what the heck is going on then you've taken the democratic out of democratic republic. You have the state GOP on Colorado boasting about a win on Twitter. That's not fair and impartial.


These rules were published last year. They were open. Everyone knew about them. Trump should have been more organized and Cruz should be commended.


That doesn't change the fact they were changed specifically to give the party establishment a huge advantage as a firewall.
I'm personally loving this.  Trump and his trumpettes are in a tizzy right now.   Tongue

 

Quote:More like the defense didn't get on the field and he walked in for a touchdown. Cruz didn't make the rules for Colorado's delegate allocation, either Trump didn't know how the delegates where going to be awarded or he knew and decided not to send anyone, but yea lets blame the guy that showed up lol.
 

Bingo.  Trump even gave a speech where he said "I thought there was going to be a vote".  Clearly he had no idea how delegates are chosen in Colorado.

 

Quote:You can tip toe and dance all you want around the fact that NO VOTE took place and Cruz was awarded all the delegates.  Ya, he's clearly the guy the establishment hates.
 

There was never supposed to be a vote.

 

 

Quote:Cough cough they've never done it this way before cough cough
 

Never did this before the last election.  Rules were changed prior to this election season.  The bottom line is, the Cruz camp knew the rules and earned the delegates.

 

We'll give the trumpettes a win in New York, but I do think that it falls off after that.

Quote:Mods, please change title to "Cruz Dominates Colorado"
 

And he dominated by knowing the rules.
Ya he dominated by shmoozing establishment trash. BRAVO

Quote:There was never supposed to be a vote.

 

Never did this before the last election.  Rules were changed prior to this election season.  The bottom line is, the Cruz camp knew the rules and earned the delegates.

 
 

I look forward to the day when rules can be changed and nobody gets to vote anywhere.  Won't that be swell?!
Quote:Ya he dominated by shmoozing establishment trash. BRAVO


You've got to take the emotion out of this, I know Alex Jones is claiming this is precedent to the end of elections but he's been off kilt for a while now. It was the States party that made this decision, heck the GOP absolutely could make the decision to do it nationwide, so what its up to people to then say we won't support that party.


The big thing to remember is we don't have state sponsored parties, there is no law saying you have to vote only GOP or Democrat its just that people have been conditioned for it.


Honestly I hope one way or another this destroys the GOP either trump wins and is the disastour I believe him to be or they deny him and select someone other than cruz and the party fractions.


If the GOP fell apart it would be a domino effect and we'd see multiple parties emerge, that's what we need.
Quote:I look forward to the day when rules can be changed and nobody gets to vote anywhere.  Won't that be swell?!
 

I don't understand why everyone is happy with breaking up Microsoft or AT&T for being a monopoly but nobody does anything about the two biggest evil corrupt monopolies in that of the Democrat & Republican party system?


I mean they have literally rigged the govt to ensure that they always keep power.
Quote:I don't understand why everyone is happy with breaking up Microsoft or AT&T for being a monopoly but nobody does anything about the two biggest evil corrupt monopolies in that of the Democrat & Republican party system?


I mean they have literally rigged the govt to ensure that they always keep power.


No lazy Americans who accept two party options have created this mess. the last thing in the world you should advocate is the federal government interfering with how political parties run, thats how you end up with state sponsored parties. Think about the big game not just the here and now.
Quote:You've got to take the emotion out of this, I know Alex Jones is claiming this is precedent to the end of elections but he's been off kilt for a while now. It was the States party that made this decision, heck the GOP absolutely could make the decision to do it nationwide, so what its up to people to then say we won't support that party.


The big thing to remember is we don't have state sponsored parties, there is no law saying you have to vote only GOP or Democrat its just that people have been conditioned for it.


Honestly I hope one way or another this destroys the GOP either trump wins and is the disastour I believe him to be or they deny him and select someone other than cruz and the party fractions.


If the GOP fell apart it would be a domino effect and we'd see multiple parties emerge, that's what we need.
 

You're off kilt here, making light of this.
I think it says something about Trump and his ability to "make deals," and get things done, and organize, and hire the right people, all qualities that a President of the United States needs, if he loses track of how to get the nomination.  

 

Running for President is a test, and if you fail the test, you lose, and deservedly so.   You have to have a plan to succeed, you have to implement the plan, and make it work.   If you can't do that, what makes you think you would be a great President? 

 

No one has screwed Trump here, he knew the rules, they haven't changed, and if he fails to get the nomination, that calls into question all those great qualities he says he has. 

Quote:You're off kilt here, making light of this.


I'm not making light of it, im stating that advocating state interference in a political parties selection process isnt a solution. Likewise claming an independent parties shenanigans is reflective of the entire Democratic process isnt accurate, there is no law or rule that you only have two choices. It's up to the public to deciede when they demand more than two choices.


GOP is playing games, yes, so don't support the GOP instead of claiming the entire system is rigged like the USSR or Chinas state sponsered system.
Quote:I'm not making light of it, im stating that advocating state interference in a political parties selection process isnt a solution. Likewise claming an independent parties shenanigans is reflective of the entire Democratic process isnt accurate, there is no law or rule that you only have two choices. It's up to the public to deciede when they demand more than two choices.


GOP is playing games, yes, so don't support the GOP instead of claiming the entire system is rigged like the USSR or Chinas state sponsered system.
 

Oh, c'mon - complaining is so much easier than doing the hard work of changing things. That's what really irritates me about Trump. He wants to do it the easy and cheap way. God knows I don't like Cruz or Sanders but they have shown that hard work and intelligence can get you a lot further along than your policies would indicate.
Quote:Oh, c'mon - complaining is so much easier than doing the hard work of changing things. That's what really irritates me about Trump. He wants to do it the easy and cheap way. God knows I don't like Cruz or Sanders but they have shown that hard work and intelligence can get you a lot further along than your policies would indicate.
 

What exactly am I supposed to DO?  I'm the one voicing displeasure with the system while some of you lackeys are acting like the weird process in Colorado is normal.

 

All I can do is talk about it.  I'm doing more than you who just sits back and says, ya everything is fine.  No vote, that's normal.
It is so easy to identify people who told on their friends for talking when they were on class monitor duty in 3rd grade.

Quote:It is so easy to identify people who told on their friends for talking when they were on class monitor duty in 3rd grade.
 

It's also easy to identify people who never made it to the third grade. (Trump supporters)
Quote:What exactly am I supposed to DO?  I'm the one voicing displeasure with the system while some of you lackeys are acting like the weird process in Colorado is normal.

 

All I can do is talk about it.  I'm doing more than you who just sits back and says, ya everything is fine.  No vote, that's normal.
 

What are you supposed to do? Instead of whining? Instead of this childish stuff like "lackeys"? Join a party and make it what you want it to be.

 

Why is Colorado weird? Do all states need your approval as to how they run their nominating process? Perhaps the federal government should step in and mandate a certain procedure - if that meets with your approval.

 

It seems as if should be upset with Trump's people - for being lazy and slow - not with the process.
Quote:I think it says something about Trump and his ability to "make deals," and get things done, and organize, and hire the right people, all qualities that a President of the United States needs, if he loses track of how to get the nomination.


Running for President is a test, and if you fail the test, you lose, and deservedly so. You have to have a plan to succeed, you have to implement the plan, and make it work. If you can't do that, what makes you think you would be a great President?


No one has screwed Trump here, he knew the rules, they haven't changed, and if he fails to get the nomination, that calls into question all those great qualities he says he has.


A question was asked of Napoleon why there were so few great leaders in the world he responded to acquire power requires true pettiness two wheeled power requires true greatness and very rarely do both qualities exist in the same person.


If the Republican National Committee succeeds in its Quest to change roles after candidates have declared to usurp the will of the people did Donald Trump's shortcoming will not be that he wasn't great but that he wasn't petty.
Quote:It's also easy to identify people who never made it to the third grade. (Trump supporters)
 

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BURN! My comment was targeting you, and I'm pretty sure it is accurate.
Quote:What are you supposed to do? Instead of whining? Instead of this childish stuff like "lackeys"? Join a party and make it what you want it to be.

 

Why is Colorado weird? Do all states need your approval as to how they run their nominating process? Perhaps the federal government should step in and mandate a certain procedure - if that meets with your approval.

 

It seems as if should be upset with Trump's people - for being lazy and slow - not with the process.
 

You know... you're right. This whole thing is going to come down to 3 dudes from Colorado going to a convention where they can switch their votes willy nilly, but that's perfectly normal and obviously democratic.  Not weird at all.  3 guys representing a state of millions seems logical.

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