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Quote:Not Federal ... yet. Several states are phasing in a $15 minimum wage.

There right to do so without interference from the Feds.

Quote:Just had an interview with the CDC buddy. Try again...keep the change.

 

They running low on Lab Rats?   (It was there... I had to)

Quote:There right to do so without interference from the Feds.

 

Absolutely.


 

It's funny how the Left has suddenly become a big supporter of state's rights now that Trump is POTUS.

Quote:Nothing wrong with factory jobs, except that they are all going to disappear.   They'll either move to the 3rd world, or, for the ones left in the 1st world, they will be replaced by robots. 

Someone has to fix the bots.

Perhaps the Owens-Illinois Glass Company will come back to Jax  !!!  Tear down the Amphitheatre !!

 

 

Quote:I don't have any reason to lie. And I apologize if I sounded elitist or whatever, I just feel like if Jville ever wants to take the next step into becoming a true big city then it needs jobs like one. In any case, if I really wanted to lie I'd say something cooler like I'm co owner of the Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp and I make millions annually selling stickers.

There are too many 'good old boys' who don't want that to happen. It's like my area where the demand for an alternative to Hellmart is sky high, people want a Target in the area so bad it's ridiculous, but it won't happen as long as certain people are still in local government to make it not happen. The good old boy network alive and kicking and pissing people off.

Quote:More entry level, paraprofessional, and warehouse jobs! WOO-HOO!!!!

 

It's already been pretty well documented in this thread regarding your ignorant comment.  However, let me take this a step further.  Imagine the single mother or the struggling family that might have the mother or father working at Wal-Mart or some fast food place because that is the only employment around.  Imagine that a place like this opens up and imagine what it means for those families struggling to get into the "middle class".

 

Quote:I don't have an issue with those jobs. We need them and I respect those that do that kind of blue collar work but it would nice if Jacksonville had a more attractive and diverse job market for highly trained professionals. It just doesn't. Many of my friends that recieved advanced degrees have simply left. I no longer live there either. I love to visit and still consider it home but there is no market in my profession (and I can only speak for my own) unless I decided to work for FF&W or teach or get into Agriculture. 

 

You know what?  Not everyone that lives around here wants that kind of environment.  The "more attractive and diverse job market for highly trained professionals" is pretty much a code-phrase for snooty liberals that want to change the culture of the city and surrounding area.

 

Most people around here just want to earn a good living and just "do what we do".  Earn a decent living, raise a family, go hunting and fishing or maybe go play golf every now and then.  Perhaps go to a Jaguars game, the Gator Nationals, a NASCAR race in Daytona, etc.  I would bet that most people don't want to be another "silicone valley", especially seeing how messed up that place is.

 

I would bet that many of the users on this forum, and particularly the people that post to this part of the forum are probably from a diverse background.  There are some that are "blue collar" workers as well as some that are "white collar" or "professional".

 

Take a good hard look at San Francisco, particularly around the "silicone valley" area.  Do we really want this city to be like that?

Quote:There are too many 'good old boys' who don't want that to happen. It's like my area where the demand for an alternative to Hellmart is sky high, people want a Target in the area so bad it's ridiculous, but it won't happen as long as certain people are still in local government to make it not happen. The good old boy network alive and kicking and [BAD WORD REMOVED] people off.

You mean the Northside? Yea they are just [BLEEP]. They want to put all the money on the Southside, and continue the trend of suburban sprawl. How long til the Town center area becomes the next Regency? Jacksonville is stupid big (or expansive) for no good reason.

Quote:It's already been pretty well documented in this thread regarding your ignorant comment. However, let me take this a step further. Imagine the single mother or the struggling family that might have the mother or father working at Wal-Mart or some fast food place because that is the only employment around. Imagine that a place like this opens up and imagine what it means for those families struggling to get into the "middle class".



You know what? Not everyone that lives around here wants that kind of environment. The "more attractive and diverse job market for highly trained professionals" is pretty much a code-phrase for snooty liberals that want to change the culture of the city and surrounding area.


Most people around here just want to earn a good living and just "do what we do". Earn a decent living, raise a family, go hunting and fishing or maybe go play golf every now and then. Perhaps go to a Jaguars game, the Gator Nationals, a NASCAR race in Daytona, etc. I would bet that most people don't want to be another "silicone valley", especially seeing how messed up that place is.


I would bet that many of the users on this forum, and particularly the people that post to this part of the forum are probably from a diverse background. There are some that are "blue collar" workers as well as some that are "white collar" or "professional".


Take a good hard look at San Francisco, particularly around the "silicone valley" area. Do we really want this city to be like that?

You know things don't have to be so black and white. You can have a mix of things. Look at Charlotte, Atlanta, Nashville, Portland, Denver, San Antonio.


Jacksonville won't ever be the bold new city of the south if can't embrace opening itself up a little more.

Quote:You mean the Northside? Yea they are just [BAD WORD REMOVED]. They want to put all the money on the Southside, and continue the trend of suburban sprawl. How long til the Town center area becomes the next Regency? Jacksonville is stupid big (or expansive) for no good reason.

Not specific to a certain part of town, it's a general observation and it happens everywhere. I remember working at a store at the Town Center when the TC first opened and that's been what, 13 years ago? I can't believe that! And I remember when Regency was The Place To Be and that was in the 80's and now that whole area is just not a pleasant place to be.

 

Part of the problem, too, is that there always has to be The Next Big Thing. Developers want to make money, businesses want to be in the new Hot Spot, people want to live in that new area so construction happens and people move and homes. businesses, etc., are left to be neglected, etc. In an area the size of Jacksonville/Duval County the sprawl is worse. 

 

I watched a documentary called Burn a few months back and it was about the city of Detroit as told through the eyes of firefighters who are tasked with saving buildings and homes in a city that has been decimated by the auto industry moving out and a population that just up and left with it. I knew Detroit has been in bad shape for a long time but to see it the way it was presented was tragic. 

 

It's not just any one thing or any one group that cripples a part of town, city, county, state, even a nation. It's a number of things and most of it may start as a good idea but always ends badly because people always have an agenda and nine times out of ten it's selfish. 

Quote:It's already been pretty well documented in this thread regarding your ignorant comment.  However, let me take this a step further.  Imagine the single mother or the struggling family that might have the mother or father working at Wal-Mart or some fast food place because that is the only employment around.  Imagine that a place like this opens up and imagine what it means for those families struggling to get into the "middle class".

 

Truth.


 

You know what?  Not everyone that lives around here wants that kind of environment.  The "more attractive and diverse job market for highly trained professionals" is pretty much a code-phrase for snooty liberals that want to change the culture of the city and surrounding area.

 

I think for some it means this, but not for all. Some would like the field they (want to) work in to be represented in their hometown so they don't have to uproot themselves and live somewhere unfamiliar.


 

Most people around here just want to earn a good living and just "do what we do".  Earn a decent living, raise a family, go hunting and fishing or maybe go play golf every now and then.  Perhaps go to a Jaguars game, the Gator Nationals, a NASCAR race in Daytona, etc.  I would bet that most people don't want to be another "silicone valley", especially seeing how messed up that place is.

 

I think most of us feel that way, no matter where we are.


 

I would bet that many of the users on this forum, and particularly the people that post to this part of the forum are probably from a diverse background.  There are some that are "blue collar" workers as well as some that are "white collar" or "professional".

 

Take a good hard look at San Francisco, particularly around the "silicone valley" area.  Do we really want this city to be like that?

 

Not even a little bit. It's kind of like the Yankees who retire here in my area. They left because they didn't like where they were living but then come here and try to change things to how they are "back home." I'm like- what?! Then go back home if it was so dang great. The stuff here gets messed up and they complain about it. People are never satisfied.

Quote:You mean the Northside? Yea they are just [BAD WORD REMOVED]. They want to put all the money on the Southside, and continue the trend of suburban sprawl. How long til the Town center area becomes the next Regency? Jacksonville is stupid big (or expansive) for no good reason.

 

There was a time when Regency was absolutely booming. My first job was in there and it was truly the place to be. It's downfall began when the clientele started to change and the kids with no money, baggy pants and neon hats started to drive paying customers away from the mall. Eventually, retailers started to leave, and you are left with what it is now.

 

The town center is still popular, but I question its longevity based on the inconvenience of being an outside mall. I miss the days of being able to walk the mall and see stores you didn't specifically go to the mall for

Quote:There was a time when Regency was absolutely booming. My first job was in there and it was truly the place to be. It's downfall began when the clientele started to change and the kids with no money, baggy pants and neon hats started to drive paying customers away from the mall. Eventually, retailers started to leave, and you are left with what it is now.

 

The town center is still popular, but I question its longevity based on the inconvenience of being an outside mall. I miss the days of being able to walk the mall and see stores you didn't specifically go to the mall for

 

It comes down to security and keeping that stuff in check. Look at the Orange Park Mall. It's thriving because the owners invest in security measures and stay on top of miscreants causing problems. Not only do they escort yobs out the door, they take them to the property line on the perimeter road and warn them to never come back. I really appreciate the proactive measures the OPM takes to ensure a safe and worry-free environment. They're well aware that a single incident like the punks who attacked patrons and jumped on top of cars at the River City Marketplace is a stain that's hard to remove. 

Quote:It comes down to security and keeping that stuff in check. Look at the Orange Park Mall. It's thriving because the owners invest in security measures and stay on top of miscreants causing problems. Not only do they escort yobs out the door, they take them to the property line on the perimeter road and warn them to never come back. I really appreciate the proactive measures the OPM takes to ensure a safe and worry-free environment. They're well aware that a single incident like the punks who attacked patrons and jumped on top of cars at the River City Marketplace is a stain that's hard to remove. 

 

And people like to laugh at this guy...

 

Quote:It comes down to security and keeping that stuff in check. Look at the Orange Park Mall. It's thriving because the owners invest in security measures and stay on top of miscreants causing problems. Not only do they escort yobs out the door, they take them to the property line on the perimeter road and warn them to never come back. I really appreciate the proactive measures the OPM takes to ensure a safe and worry-free environment. They're well aware that a single incident like the punks who attacked patrons and jumped on top of cars at the River City Marketplace is a stain that's hard to remove.

And on the other side of the spectrum is The Kingdom mall on Lenox and Regency.. Both are crap and just need torn down imo..

Quote:You know things don't have to be so black and white. You can have a mix of things. Look at Charlotte, Atlanta, Nashville, Portland, Denver, San Antonio.


Jacksonville won't ever be the bold new city of the south if can't embrace opening itself up a little more.

 

So what makes Nashville a "big city"?  I noticed in your mix of cities you didn't choose San Francisco, LA, NYC, Chicago or Detroit.

 

Things are sometimes "black and white", true/false, 1/0, etc. however you want to look at it.  I would bet that the vast majority of residents of Duval county as well as Clay, St. Johns, etc. would rather not have the city turn into another dumpster like San Francisco.  My guess is that it's just a matter of time, and it's coming shortly where San Francisco becomes another "ghost town" like Detroit.

 

Warehouse and/or manufacturing jobs support a healthy middle class.  A healthy middle class is what grows a community.  Our country's greatness didn't come from the upper class or "educated" people, it was built by hard working people (something that evades the left and/or liberals).

 

Heck, look at the current plans for the riverfront floated by none other than Shad Khan among others.  Just building it would be a good thing for our local economy, and it does create JOBS.  You might not like the jobs created, but the people that actually live here would probably not only benefit from it, but also appreciate it.

Quote:So what makes Nashville a "big city"?  I noticed in your mix of cities you didn't choose San Francisco, LA, NYC, Chicago or Detroit.

 

Things are sometimes "black and white", true/false, 1/0, etc. however you want to look at it.  I would bet that the vast majority of residents of Duval county as well as Clay, St. Johns, etc. would rather not have the city turn into another dumpster like San Francisco.  My guess is that it's just a matter of time, and it's coming shortly where San Francisco becomes another "ghost town" like Detroit.

 

Warehouse and/or manufacturing jobs support a healthy middle class.  A healthy middle class is what grows a community.  Our country's greatness didn't come from the upper class or "educated" people, it was built by hard working people (something that evades the left and/or liberals).

 

Heck, look at the current plans for the riverfront floated by none other than Shad Khan among others.  Just building it would be a good thing for our local economy, and it does create JOBS.  You might not like the jobs created, but the people that actually live here would probably not only benefit from it, but also appreciate it.

 

Here's why SF will become a desert, they continue to elect fools into leadership:

 

http://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/arti...015709.php

Quote:So what makes Nashville a "big city"? I noticed in your mix of cities you didn't choose San Francisco, LA, NYC, Chicago or Detroit.


Things are sometimes "black and white", true/false, 1/0, etc. however you want to look at it. I would bet that the vast majority of residents of Duval county as well as Clay, St. Johns, etc. would rather not have the city turn into another dumpster like San Francisco. My guess is that it's just a matter of time, and it's coming shortly where San Francisco becomes another "ghost town" like Detroit.


Warehouse and/or manufacturing jobs support a healthy middle class. A healthy middle class is what grows a community. Our country's greatness didn't come from the upper class or "educated" people, it was built by hard working people (something that evades the left and/or liberals).


Heck, look at the current plans for the riverfront floated by none other than Shad Khan among others. Just building it would be a good thing for our local economy, and it does create JOBS. You might not like the jobs created, but the people that actually live here would probably not only benefit from it, but also appreciate it.

Detroit has actually seen a rise in jobs. More companies moving to downtown/midtown areas.


Some manufacturing jobs, some jobs that require a higher/specialized degree, some typical customer service jobs. Pistons finally moving back to the city. Soccer team coming to the city,etc blah blah blah

Quote:So what makes Nashville a "big city"?  I noticed in your mix of cities you didn't choose San Francisco, LA, NYC, Chicago or Detroit.

 

Things are sometimes "black and white", true/false, 1/0, etc. however you want to look at it.  I would bet that the vast majority of residents of Duval county as well as Clay, St. Johns, etc. would rather not have the city turn into another dumpster like San Francisco.  My guess is that it's just a matter of time, and it's coming shortly where San Francisco becomes another "ghost town" like Detroit.

 

Warehouse and/or manufacturing jobs support a healthy middle class.  A healthy middle class is what grows a community.  Our country's greatness didn't come from the upper class or "educated" people, it was built by hard working people (something that evades the left and/or liberals).

 

Heck, look at the current plans for the riverfront floated by none other than Shad Khan among others.  Just building it would be a good thing for our local economy, and it does create JOBS.  You might not like the jobs created, but the people that actually live here would probably not only benefit from it, but also appreciate it.

Preach!  

 

Solid is, whether he wants to admit it or not an intellectual elitist. In his mind if you do not have a degree you have failed in life.  His first response to this thread was his Freudian Slip.

Quote:Preach!


Solid is, whether he wants to admit it or not an intellectual elitist. In his mind if you do not have a degree you have failed in life. His first response to this thread was his Freudian Slip.

And he's part of the problem