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4.42 40.

1.52 10 yard.

41.5 inch vert.

11'3 broad jump.

 

The thought of Ramsey in teal was fun while it lasted. Myles Jack or Joey Bosa will be a nice consolation prize though.

Quote:4.42 40.

1.52 10 yard.

41.5 inch vert.

11'3 broad jump.

 

The thought of Ramsey in teal was fun while it lasted. Myles Jack or Joey Bosa will be a nice consolation prize though.
 

This guy is a bigger, stronger, and infinitely more athletic version of the Honey Badger. I know Tennessee is looking to shore up that offensive line, but man I'd be hard pressed not to take Ramsey 1st overall if I were them.

Bring on Bosa or Jack B)

Quote:Bring on Bosa or Jack B)
 

Give me Jack, i feel this draft has 3 transcendent players on the defensive side of the ball, Ramsey, Jack, and Jaylon Smith.
Any of those 3 are fine. We may even get to choose between 2 of them.
I'm still not completely sold on Ramsey. The numbers are great, but I don't see it still. I'm sold on Jack and now Hargreaves. I wasn't completely sold on Hargreaves until today. If he can play FS, which I think he could, him or Jack and I'm good!!

 

GO JAGS!!

Who is going to take him ahead of us?  I still say:

 

1. TEN - OT L. Tunsil  (common knowledge at this point, going to take him to protect their 1st round QB investment)

2. CLE - QB Wentz or Goff (QB is a given here)

3. S.D. - OT Stanley (protecting Rivers their first priority, no way take a FS this high with all their needs at higher premium positions)

4. DAL - DE Bosa (they are a mess at DE, and that will override any smaller need in the secondary, Bosa still #1 on many boards)

5. JAC - leaves us with Ramsey

He's going to the Chargers. Book it!
Quote:Who is going to take him ahead of us? I still say:


1. TEN - OT L. Tunsil (common knowledge at this point, going to take him to protect their 1st round QB investment)

2. CLE - QB Wentz or Goff (QB is a given here)

3. S.D. - OT Stanley (protecting Rivers their first priority, no way take a FS this high with all their needs at hight premium positions)

4. DAL - DE Bosa (they are a mess a DE, and that will override any smaller need in the secondary, Bosa still #1 on many boards)

5. JAC - leaves us with Ramsey
chargers could prob just address oline later instead of reaching for stanley. I think dallas goes bosa too but ramsey could just as easily be the guy if there.
Quote:4.42 40.

1.52 10 yard.

41.5 inch vert.

11'3 broad jump.

 

The thought of Ramsey in teal was fun while it lasted. Myles Jack or Joey Bosa will be a nice consolation prize though.
I've already gone over this adnauseum. Ramsey is not going top 4. In the last 17 years the highest a DB has gone is at 5. I don't see Ramsey bucking that trend. Two tackles and two QBs, or two QBs and Bosa going in the top 4 is far more likely than Ramsey going in the top 4. Those positions just take precedence over CB and especially S. Teams already knew Ramsey was going to blow up the combine, that was never in doubt. The questions with Ramsey are ones that will only be answered once he's in the league and that combined with the position hierarchy rank in the first place will push him pass pick 4. To put it another way, the NFL's question of his position and his lack of TOs alone is something that would drop him, the fact CB's have not broken the ceiling of 5 since 1998 is just icing on the cake.
Quote:He's going to the Chargers. Book it!
 

 

Quote:chargers could prob just adress oline later instead of reaching for stanley. I think dallas goes bosa too but ramsey could just as easily be the guy if there.
2 is not a reach for Stanley. If they don't get Stanley then they will be looking to trade down and barring that they will take Bosa or Buckner. No team is drafting a safety and a guy they're not sure is a corner in the top 3.
Quote:Who is going to take him ahead of us?  I still say:

 

1. TEN - OT L. Tunsil  (common knowledge at this point, going to take him to protect their 1st round QB investment)

2. CLE - QB Wentz or Goff (QB is a given here)

3. S.D. - OT Stanley (protecting Rivers their first priority, no way take a FS this high with all their needs at hight premium positions)

4. DAL - DE Bosa (they are a mess a DE, and that will override any smaller need in the secondary, Bosa still #1 on many boards)

5. JAC - leaves us with Ramsey
This guy gets it.
You guys realize this means we will get Buckner...... Sigh

I just need to know how much his jersey is going to cost.
And anyway, if Jack were participating yesterday, he would have put up all those same numbers at 245lbs, as he will show at his proday. And he still would not go top 4 either. 

 

 

Quote:You guys realize this means we will get Buckner...... Sigh
lol.

Quote:2 is not a reach for Stanley. If they don't get Stanley then they will be looking to trade down and barring that they will take Bosa or Buckner. No team is drafting a safety and a guy they're not sure is a corner in the top 3.


I'm pretty sure the team drafting him knows whether or not he'll play CB or safety for them. With a huge hole a FS with Weddle leaving and the best FS falling into their lap it makes plenty of sense for them to draft Ramsey.
Hargreaves is a better defensive back and football player. The film does not lie. Ramsey is a better athlete.
I don't think it completely rules him out of being picked at #5 but I know Ravens fans are upset knowing there isn't a snowball chance in hell he falls past #5

Quote:I'm pretty sure the team drafting him knows whether or not he'll play CB or safety for them. With a huge hole a FS with Weddle leaving and the best FS falling into their lap it makes plenty of sense for them to draft Ramsey.
Safeties do not get drafted top 3. The Chargers are not drafting Ramsey at 3 to play safety for them. Even if they viewed him as a corner, tackle/pass rusher > cornerback. It's just how it works. Go look at the draft the past 17 years. Guys like Sean Taylor, Eric Berry, and even PP could not break into the top 4. Ramsey not gonna be the player to buck that trend. Too many questions on him. Just because he is an uber athlete does not make him a clean, no questions asked prospect.
Quote:2 is not a reach for Stanley. If they don't get Stanley then they will be looking to trade down and barring that they will take Bosa or Buckner. No team is drafting a safety and a guy they're not sure is a corner in the top 3.
stanley isnt close to ramsey jack or bosa, id say its a reach. And why are you assuming they would trade?
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