Quote:Noah was tested randomly 5 times while at EKU and passed them all. At this point, it's safe to say that he's checked all the boxes about his ecstasy use.
Also, screw what all the mock drafters say. I really don't care what their big boards or mocks say. When I watch Spence, I see a top-10 pick that I'd take at #5 all day, every day.
If Ramsey is gone, I wouldn't be mad if Spence was the pick at 5. He's really good.
Fowler and Spence would feast.
I'd even go so far as to say take Ramsey if he is there and trade back up to mid first for spence
Quote:I'd even go so far as to say take Ramsey if he is there and trade back up to mid first for spence
do you know how much it would take to move up from our 2nd pick to mid 1st? On a player with red flags at that! No thanks, thats how teams get set back for years
Quote:Noah was tested randomly 5 times while at EKU and passed them all. At this point, it's safe to say that he's checked all the boxes about his ecstasy use.
Also, screw what all the mock drafters say. I really don't care what their big boards or mocks say. When I watch Spence, I see a top-10 pick that I'd take at #5 all day, every day.
Sorry, but that's what got Gene Smith in trouble. If you value Spence that much you trade down from the #5 pick and pick him, but not at the expense of passing on an objectively top 5 prospect like Bosa or even Ramsey.
If this team selected Spence at #5 as it stands they'd be laughed out of the building.
Quote:Sorry, but that's what got Gene Smith in trouble. If you value Spence that much you trade down from the #5 pick and pick him, but not at the expense of passing on an objectively top 5 prospect like Bosa or even Ramsey.
If this team selected Spence at #5 as it stands they'd be laughed out of the building.
this as well, you have to get value out of your picks
Glenn Gronkowski is playing TE, I how wonder how he has looked at practice?
Quote:Sorry, but that's what got Gene Smith in trouble. If you value Spence that much you trade down from the #5 pick and pick him, but not at the expense of passing on an objectively top 5 prospect like Bosa or even Ramsey.
If this team selected Spence at #5 as it stands they'd be laughed out of the building.
What got Gene in trouble was not doing his homework on Blackmon like Tampa did. Spence isn't Blackmon, stop acting like he is. If you trade down to get him later, he won't be there with pass-rush needy teams like Baltimore, Tampa, and NYG in the top 10.
The narrative around the kid is already changing and by the time the Combine rolls around, more people are going to be talking about him as a high pick. So yeah, I wouldn't expect much laughter if his name is called at #5.
You can let the ghosts of Gene Smith past haunt you into passing up legit talent all you want, I'll take a chance on the kid who's shown that he's changed from the mistakes he made over two years ago.
Quote:What got Gene in trouble was not doing his homework on Blackmon like Tampa did. Spence isn't Blackmon, stop acting like he is. If you trade down to get him later, he won't be there with pass-rush needy teams like Baltimore, Tampa, and NYG in the top 10.
The narrative around the kid is already changing and by the time the Combine rolls around, more people are going to be talking about him as a high pick. So yeah, I wouldn't expect much laughter if his name is called at #5.
You can let the ghosts of Gene Smith past haunt you into passing up legit talent all you want, I'll take a chance on the kid who's shown that he's changed from the mistakes he made over two years ago.
Spence isn't going top 10. I compare his situation to Randy Gregory from last year. I expect him to be available late 1st, early 2nd.
Are the people who want Noah Spence at #5 Joey Bosa haters?
Quote:Are the people who want Noah Spence at #5 Joey Bosa haters?
No one said anything about Bosa. Stay on topic.
Quote:No one said anything about Bosa. Stay on topic.
My point is if you want a DL at #5, Joey Bosa is the man. There is no reason for someone who likes him to say we should pick Noah Spence.
Quote:Spence isn't going top 10. I compare his situation to Randy Gregory from last year. I expect him to be available late 1st, early 2nd.
I compare it to Marcus Peters who also had problems off the field, fell in the draft, and is currently in the Pro Bowl.
Quote:I compare it to Marcus Peters who also had problems off the field, fell in the draft, and is currently in the Pro Bowl.
or one could compare it to Josh Gordon
Quote:What got Gene in trouble was not doing his homework on Blackmon like Tampa did. Spence isn't Blackmon, stop acting like he is. If you trade down to get him later, he won't be there with pass-rush needy teams like Baltimore, Tampa, and NYG in the top 10.
The narrative around the kid is already changing and by the time the Combine rolls around, more people are going to be talking about him as a high pick. So yeah, I wouldn't expect much laughter if his name is called at #5.
You can let the ghosts of Gene Smith past haunt you into passing up legit talent all you want, I'll take a chance on the kid who's shown that he's changed from the mistakes he made over two years ago.
Do you seriously believe Spence is going in the top 10? That's my biggest issue, is that you think he's going in the top ten when there's easily 10 prospects better than him. You don't need to pick him at #5 if you really want him.
He's not a top 5 talent and it's not because he isn't good, it's because he isn't better than the potential 5 guys ahead of him.
Quote:or one could compare it to Josh Gordon
Tricky situation ain't it?
Quote:Tricky situation ain't it?
Either way none of those guys went in the top 10. It's just too much risk for such a high pick.
Quote:Either way none of those guys went in the top 10. It's just too much risk for such a high pick.
I just don't want to regret missing out on the best pass rusher in the draft. He has a similar style/build to Khalil Mack and Dante Fowler. We will see what happens.
Quote:I just don't want to regret missing out on the best pass rusher in the draft. He has a similar style/build to Khalil Mack and Dante Fowler. We will see what happens.
The best pass rusher in the draft is indisputably Joey Bosa.
Quote:The best pass rusher in the draft is indisputably Joey Bosa.
Indisputalby? I like Bosa but dont act like the guy is Von Miller coming out. Bosa is a well rounded DE. He is a good pass rusher IMO but dont sit there and act like he is a dominant pass rusher coming out
Quote:Indisputalby? I like Bosa but dont act like the guy is Von Miller coming out. Bosa is a well rounded DE. He is a good pass rusher IMO but dont sit there and act like he is a dominant pass rusher coming out
Who is a better pass rusher in the draft? Myles Jack?
I am not trying to act like Joey Bosa is on Von Miller's level.