Quote:Hurns could make the play. He chose not to because his momentum to get the first down would have taken him out of bounds. If Hurns went down headfirst and reached over the line, he would have gotten the first down.
Unless you had a wire tap into Hurns' brain last night, I'd say you're making (bad word removed) up. Getting the first down there was the ultimate priority, and I'm sure Hurns knew it. With 2 and a half minutes to go, keeping the clock running doesn't take precedence over moving the chains. These are professionals after all; the defender just made a good play.
Quote:In a vacuum any offense should be able to pick that up.
You are wrong. NFL teams play on football fields, not in vacuum cleaners. Get it right sheesh.
Quote:If you try to draw them offsides and succeed, obviously you don't need to call timeout and kick it. Why don't people understand this?
Umm........You're the one who's confused. All of your posts on here keep making me laugh because you keep misunderstanding everyone, yet that doesn't stop you from disagreeing with everybody.
Everyone already knows that you line up for a hard count to try to draw them off. If it succeeds, then you've done your job and capitalized on their lack of discipline. However, if the hard count doesn't do the trick, you call the timeout and send in the kicking team. No one specified that because everyone already knows that's how it works.
The titans hadn't even touched our redzone for the entire game with their only touchdown coming on a 22 yard scramble by Mariota. With no timeouts, forcing them to need a touchdown was the right call.
Quote:This makes no sense to me. If you're not good at something, then why try it when there is a better option available?
Try something you have failed at repeatedly or put points on the board?
Give me the points
Me too, Deacon.
I have my problems with Bradley but taking the FG there is not one of them. It was the smart call.
The reason why I thought Gus Bradley made the best decision by going for the FG in that situation is Tennessee was shorthanded at WR. With Justin Hunter out for the season and Kendall Wright being sidelined for the game, Tennessee didn't have enough experienced firepower at WR. Most of their passing game seemed to be to TEs, especially Delanie Walker. With the length of the field and time factors being major factors as well, having a 6 point lead was much safer than having a 3 point lead. If the Jaguars were playing Arizona in its current form for example instead of Tennessee, I think the best decision would have been to go for the 1st Down.
Quote:Unless you had a wire tap into Hurns' brain last night, I'd say you're making (bad word removed) up. Getting the first down there was the ultimate priority, and I'm sure Hurns knew it. With 2 and a half minutes to go, keeping the clock running doesn't take precedence over moving the chains. These are professionals after all; the defender just made a good play.
Technically... you're both wrong... and you're both right.
Hurns absolutely tried to stay in bounds. He made a VERY blatant effort of that.
However, he DID also try to get the first. If you watch that play, and specifically watch his feet, he tried to stop his momentum to push forward up-field for the first, while staying in bounds. However, when he planted, his feet slid out from under him due to the ground being wet/soft/whatever there and he went down.
Why didn't Hurns just run full speed to the first down marker out of bounce. Fresh set of downs, more time to burn/and or titans to burn timeouts
Quote:Why didn't Hurns just run full speed to the first down marker out of bounce. Fresh set of downs, more time to burn/and or titans to burn timeouts
He's a young playmaker and was trying to do it all.
Wanted the cake and eat it.
Quote:Yea but sacrificing a timeout to possibly end the game is the correct move. The reward is much greater than the risk. Unlike going for it on the 4th down where the risk was just too high based on the Jags offense and titans D.
Oh, I agree with you. I'm just trying to guess at what must have been going through Bradley's head when he just sent the field goal team out instead of trying to bait the Titans offsides.
Quote:So our offense can't be trusted to gain the length of a football against Tennessee? I can't agree with you there.
Have you seen our short-yardage offense? The only time I'd count on them on fourth down is if we needed to
lose a yard for the first.
Quote:Most of their passing game seemed to be to TEs, especially Delanie Walker.
Because concussion protocol.
Seriously, the dude slammed his head into the wall and stayed down. Why does the NFL even bother having independent neurologists on site if they're not going to object when a guy goes from slamming his head into the wall to the line of scrimmage without even missing a play? Goodell's setting himself up for another lawsuit after a player gets his bell rung, isn't flagged by any medical staffers then winds up with concussion symptoms the next day.
Quote:Technically... you're both wrong... and you're both right.
Hurns absolutely tried to stay in bounds. He made a VERY blatant effort of that.
However, he DID also try to get the first. If you watch that play, and specifically watch his feet, he tried to stop his momentum to push forward up-field for the first, while staying in bounds. However, when he planted, his feet slid out from under him due to the ground being wet/soft/whatever there and he went down.
Technically ay?
I didnt say he didn't try to stay in bounds, I said getting the first down was the most important thing and I'm sure he knew that. I'm also sure he thought he could get a first down AND stay in bounds. The defender made a good tackle.
Technically.
Quote:Umm........You're the one who's confused. All of your posts on here keep making me laugh because you keep misunderstanding everyone, yet that doesn't stop you from disagreeing with everybody.
Everyone already knows that you line up for a hard count to try to draw them off. If it succeeds, then you've done your job and capitalized on their lack of discipline. However, if the hard count doesn't do the trick, you call the timeout and send in the kicking team. No one specified that because everyone already knows that's how it works.
I just skip over it now,(like I did on page 1). Its obvious she is doing it on purpose to try and get any kind of attention she can.
Quote:Technically ay?
I didnt say he didn't try to stay in bounds, I said getting the first down was the most important thing and I'm sure he knew that. I'm also sure he thought he could get a first down AND stay in bounds. The defender made a good tackle.
Technically.
Wrong in that, the defender didn't really make a play. Hurns just fell trying to make a move. The defender was just there.
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Because concussion protocol.
Seriously, the dude slammed his head into the wall and stayed down. Why does the NFL even bother having independent neurologists on site if they're not going to object when a guy goes from slamming his head into the wall to the line of scrimmage without even missing a play? Goodell's setting himself up for another lawsuit after a player gets his bell rung, isn't flagged by any medical staffers then winds up with concussion symptoms the next day.
If it wasn't for Gus Bradley objecting that Delanie Walker was able to stay in the game without missing a play or Tennessee having to use a timeout, Walker wouldn't have even missed one play. It was surprising that Walker was cleared as fast as he was. There's no question that when it comes to potential concussions, err on the side of caution.
Quote: If it wasn't for Gus Bradley objecting that Delanie Walker was able to stay in the game without missing a play or Tennessee having to use a timeout, Walker wouldn't have even missed one play. It was surprising that Walker was cleared as fast as he was. There's no question that when it comes to potential concussions, err on the side of caution.
And you don't need a medical degree to know his bell was rung pretty good on that play.
I don't believe for a second that there was any kind of thorough protocol run on him.
Hell, when the ref was telling him to get off the field, he STILL looked dazed.
And if we went for it, all of you would be complaining about how we should've taken the points and force the tacks to get a TD. We struggled all game long getting short yardage, and the tacks would've known we were running it up the middle. We don't have a good O-Line for that and our defense was playing pretty good all game. Knowing all of that, it was smart to take the points and leave it up to your defense to win it.
Quote: If it wasn't for Gus Bradley objecting that Delanie Walker was able to stay in the game without missing a play or Tennessee having to use a timeout, Walker wouldn't have even missed one play. It was surprising that Walker was cleared as fast as he was. There's no question that when it comes to potential concussions, err on the side of caution.
I remain curious as to why Tennessee wasn't hit with a delay of game penalty for that. It's on the coaches and players to know the rules, and imo, the play clock should have been rolling while Walker figured out if he was supposed to be on the field or not.
Of course, if Walker was genuinely confused about whether or not he should have been on the field after, what, eight years in the league...? Maybe that should have been enough to justify pulling him for yet another look.
All I know for sure is that the concussion protocol is a joke. If a guy bangs his head hard and stays down (or even look unconscious, like Hoyer did), there's no way that guy should be back in the game anytime soon, and if a guy looks like he's out, he should be done for the day. The independent neurologists are either not paying attention or not being cautious at all with players.
Quote:Just wondering if anyone agrees with me that the Jaguars should have gone for it on 4th and inches with just over 2 minutes left. Certainly, the field goal was the safe call and the Jaguars won, but why give the Titans a chance to win with a touchdown when all you need is a few inches. Bortles fumbled a q.b. sneak earlier and maybe this is why Bradley kicked, but I still say the odds of a 240 pound q.b. getting a couple inches was overwhelmingly in their favor which would have clinched the game. Even if he didn't make it, the Jags defense had been playing well and could have stopped the Titans.
No doubt, the Jaguars are very poor in short yardage situations, but if a team can't get a few inches they don't deserve to win anyway. I'm ecstatic that they won, but this is my opinion on that call. Does anyone agree ?
Yes, they should have gone for it. They also should have qb sneaked it on 3rd down and just made it then instead of having to deal with it. I almost got into it with a guy I've never talked to during the game over it. To show how stupid that guy is, he also wanted the Jags to pull Blake and put in Henne.....Next game should be fun with him there.
Anyways, yes go for it....you go for it and run the clock and game over. Our short yardage running game is pathetic. We've proven that over and over again on the goal line. At least on qb sneaks he can get low and sneak his way in there.....but somehow we can't figure that out. We make everything hard.
Quote:Me too, Deacon.
I have my problems with Bradley but taking the FG there is not one of them. It was the smart call.
Knowing he made the field goal, yes it was a good idea.....with Meyers history before that happened you're telling me you didn't have any worry? That definitely factored into why I wanted to go for it. Like I said above, I would have qb sneaked it on third....its more of a case of terrible play calling than having to go for it on 4th. We never should have been in that situation.
Quote:And you don't need a medical degree to know his bell was rung pretty good on that play.
I don't believe for a second that there was any kind of thorough protocol run on him.
Hell, when the ref was telling him to get off the field, he STILL looked dazed.
Lol, I just rewatched the game. He was literally shaking the cobwebs out of his head while he was on the field, the most obvious sign you can give for a concussion. He was effected and nothing was done. Terrible refs and horrible concussion protocol.