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Quote:Enter the UF apologist. Think you should change that name to UF knight. FSU has accomplished more with less since they started playing college football.

 

The reason I respond in these threads is one, its fun watching you defend yourselves instead of owning up to things.  Your excuses are completely asinine.

 

Then you come up with baseless arguments on why your history is better than Florida.  It's completely inaccurate.  It's sort of like Alabama claiming all those national titles.  Just because you say it, it doesn't make it true.  You may make yourself feel better about it, but you look like a complete freaking idiot.  You are one of the leading band members here.  I don't even think most of your FSU brethren agree.

 

FSU is better than Florida at the moment and for the foreseeable future.  You guys should enjoy your time on top and your little digs at Florida, but when the time comes and they do the same thing back to you, don't whine and say how low class they are.  It goes both ways.  Both your fan bases fail to recognize that.

 

Fyi, my team is 0-9....what the heck else do you want me to talk about?

Quote:The reason I respond in these threads is one, its fun watching you defend yourselves instead of owning up to things. Your excuses are completely asinine.


Then you come up with baseless arguments on why your history is better than Florida. It's completely inaccurate. It's sort of like Alabama claiming all those national titles. Just because you say it, it doesn't make it true. You may make yourself feel better about it, but you look like a complete freaking idiot. You are one of the leading band members here. I don't even think most of your FSU brethren agree.


FSU is better than Florida at the moment and for the foreseeable future. You guys should enjoy your time on top and your little digs at Florida, but when the time comes and they do the same thing back to you, don't whine and say how low class they are. It goes both ways. Both your fan bases fail to recognize that.


Fyi, my team is 0-9....what the heck else do you want me to talk about?

Ahhh now the name calling . Easy there UF knight. The UF fan base is well represented on these boards. They don't need you're help.

Quote:The reason I respond in these threads is one, its fun watching you defend yourselves instead of owning up to things.  Your excuses are completely asinine.

 

Then you come up with baseless arguments on why your history is better than Florida.  It's completely inaccurate.  It's sort of like Alabama claiming all those national titles.  Just because you say it, it doesn't make it true.  You may make yourself feel better about it, but you look like a complete freaking idiot.  You are one of the leading band members here.  I don't even think most of your FSU brethren agree.

 

FSU is better than Florida at the moment and for the foreseeable future.  You guys should enjoy your time on top and your little digs at Florida, but when the time comes and they do the same thing back to you, don't whine and say how low class they are.  It goes both ways.  Both your fan bases fail to recognize that.

 

Fyi, my team is 0-9....what the heck else do you want me to talk about?

 

There are many assumptions in your post; however, there are no facts to back it up.  Yes, FSU is better than UF at the moment.  That is obvious, and most would agree.  FSU has been one of the most dominant forces in college football over the last few years while UF has merely been a doormat.  FSU has had 2 losses in 3 years, a 31 game winning streak, 28 consecutive ACC wins, 3 consecutive ACC titles, 1 National Championship, 1 Playoff Appearance, 1 Heisman Trophy Winner, and 29 players drafted in the NFL.  All while UF has been getting beat left and right, whether it be by FSU, the SEC, the ACC, Power-5, or heck even an FCS team such a Georgia Southern.  Heck, the Gators haven't even come remotely close to winning the SEC East.  You know the division the S&P+ rankings have by far and away the worst division in the Power-5 (See link below).

 

Our differences stem from how we see the past.  Now, I will start off with the fact that you are definitely in the MINORITY.  I have never seen a ranking of the best college football programs or a statistical/analytical ranking that has ever had UF even remotely close to being ahead of FSU.  If you find one, I'll be more than happy to look.  

 

The fact is, no matter what era you look at, FSU has consistently been a more dominant force in college football than UF.  The playoff era is of course easy to compare.  FSU has had 1 playoff appearance, 1 conference title, 2 overall losses, 3 consensus All-Americans, and 11 NFL draft picks.  Meanwhile, UF has had 0 playoff appearances, 0 conference titles, 6 overall losses, 0 consensus All-Americans and only 8 NFL draft picks.  Oh, and FSU leads UF 1-0.

 

For the BCS era, we see once again how dominant FSU has been over UF.  Both UF and FSU have 2 BCS National Championships.  That is about the only thing that is even.  FSU had twice as many BCS National Championship appearances; FSU had more BCS Bowl wins; and FSU had more BCS Bowl appearances.  FSU had 8 conference titles, seven 10+ win seasons, 2 undefeated seasons, 90 NFL draft picks, 2 heisman winners, and 17 consensus All-Americans.  Meanwhile, UF had only 3 conference titles, seven 10+ win seasons, 0 undefeated seasons, 86 NFL draft picks, only 1 heisman winner, and only 10 consensus All-Americans. The head-to-head is tied 8-8.

 

Now to me, the next era would be from 1958, the start of modern day college football. FSU had 1 national title, 6 conference titles despite only being in a conference for 15% of this era, fourteen 10+ winning seasons, 1 heisman trophy winner, and 22 consensus All-Americans.  UF had 1 national title, only 5 conference titles in 39 years, six 10+ winning seasons, 2 heisman trophy winners, and only 15-consensus All-Americans.

 

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...nced-stats

Quote:There are many assumptions in your post; however, there are no facts to back it up.  Yes, FSU is better than UF at the moment.  That is obvious, and most would agree.  FSU has been one of the most dominant forces in college football over the last few years while UF has merely been a doormat.  FSU has had 2 losses in 3 years, a 31 game winning streak, 28 consecutive ACC wins, 3 consecutive ACC titles, 1 National Championship, 1 Playoff Appearance, 1 Heisman Trophy Winner, and 29 players drafted in the NFL.  All while UF has been getting beat left and right, whether it be by FSU, the SEC, the ACC, Power-5, or heck even an FCS team such a Georgia Southern.  Heck, the Gators haven't even come remotely close to winning the SEC East.  You know the division the S&P+ rankings have by far and away the worst division in the Power-5 (See link below).

 

Our differences stem from how we see the past.  Now, I will start off with the fact that you are definitely in the MINORITY.  I have never seen a ranking of the best college football programs or a statistical/analytical ranking that has ever had UF even remotely close to being ahead of FSU.  If you find one, I'll be more than happy to look.  

 

The fact is, no matter what era you look at, FSU has consistently been a more dominant force in college football than UF.  The playoff era is of course easy to compare.  FSU has had 1 playoff appearance, 1 conference title, 2 overall losses, 3 consensus All-Americans, and 11 NFL draft picks.  Meanwhile, UF has had 0 playoff appearances, 0 conference titles, 6 overall losses, 0 consensus All-Americans and only 8 NFL draft picks.  Oh, and FSU leads UF 1-0.

 

For the BCS era, we see once again how dominant FSU has been over UF.  Both UF and FSU have 2 BCS National Championships.  That is about the only thing that is even.  FSU had twice as many BCS National Championship appearances; FSU had more BCS Bowl wins; and FSU had more BCS Bowl appearances.  FSU had 8 conference titles, seven 10+ win seasons, 2 undefeated seasons, 90 NFL draft picks, 2 heisman winners, and 17 consensus All-Americans.  Meanwhile, UF had only 3 conference titles, seven 10+ win seasons, 0 undefeated seasons, 86 NFL draft picks, only 1 heisman winner, and only 10 consensus All-Americans. The head-to-head is tied 8-8.

 

Now to me, the next era would be from 1958, the start of modern day college football. FSU had 1 national title, 6 conference titles despite only being in a conference for 15% of this era, fourteen 10+ winning seasons, 1 heisman trophy winner, and 22 consensus All-Americans.  UF had 1 national title, only 5 conference titles in 39 years, six 10+ winning seasons, 2 heisman trophy winners, and only 15-consensus All-Americans.

 

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...nced-stats

 

I can relatively agree that FSU has had a better run that UF recently, but honestly it's for one basic reason.  It all boils down to conference.  They are in a recruiting hot bed and they play an abysmal schedule year in and year out.  Bobby Bowden has admitted that he picked the ACC over the SEC for a reason.

 

A team that keeps winning (even over inferior competition) is going to have an edge in recruiting. 

 

In the end, the only thing that really matters is they both have 3 National Titles.  So if you want the ultimate ranking as far as winning, it's a tie.  To some it comes down to the almighty dollar, and in that case, UF wins in a landslide.

Quote:The reason I respond in these threads is one, its fun watching you defend yourselves instead of owning up to things. Your excuses are completely asinine.


Then you come up with baseless arguments on why your history is better than Florida. It's completely inaccurate. It's sort of like Alabama claiming all those national titles. Just because you say it, it doesn't make it true. You may make yourself feel better about it, but you look like a complete freaking idiot. You are one of the leading band members here. I don't even think most of your FSU brethren agree.


FSU is better than Florida at the moment and for the foreseeable future. You guys should enjoy your time on top and your little digs at Florida, but when the time comes and they do the same thing back to you, don't whine and say how low class they are. It goes both ways. Both your fan bases fail to recognize that.


Fyi, my team is 0-9....what the heck else do you want me to talk about?

We just have a more efficient history.

Quote:There are many assumptions in your post; however, there are no facts to back it up. Yes, FSU is better than UF at the moment. That is obvious, and most would agree. FSU has been one of the most dominant forces in college football over the last few years while UF has merely been a doormat. FSU has had 2 losses in 3 years, a 31 game winning streak, 28 consecutive ACC wins, 3 consecutive ACC titles, 1 National Championship, 1 Playoff Appearance, 1 Heisman Trophy Winner, and 29 players drafted in the NFL. All while UF has been getting beat left and right, whether it be by FSU, the SEC, the ACC, Power-5, or heck even an FCS team such a Georgia Southern. Heck, the Gators haven't even come remotely close to winning the SEC East. You know the division the S&P+ rankings have by far and away the worst division in the Power-5 (See link below).


Our differences stem from how we see the past. Now, I will start off with the fact that you are definitely in the MINORITY. I have never seen a ranking of the best college football programs or a statistical/analytical ranking that has ever had UF even remotely close to being ahead of FSU. If you find one, I'll be more than happy to look.


The fact is, no matter what era you look at, FSU has consistently been a more dominant force in college football than UF. The playoff era is of course easy to compare. FSU has had 1 playoff appearance, 1 conference title, 2 overall losses, 3 consensus All-Americans, and 11 NFL draft picks. Meanwhile, UF has had 0 playoff appearances, 0 conference titles, 6 overall losses, 0 consensus All-Americans and only 8 NFL draft picks. Oh, and FSU leads UF 1-0.


For the BCS era, we see once again how dominant FSU has been over UF. Both UF and FSU have 2 BCS National Championships. That is about the only thing that is even. FSU had twice as many BCS National Championship appearances; FSU had more BCS Bowl wins; and FSU had more BCS Bowl appearances. FSU had 8 conference titles, seven 10+ win seasons, 2 undefeated seasons, 90 NFL draft picks, 2 heisman winners, and 17 consensus All-Americans. Meanwhile, UF had only 3 conference titles, seven 10+ win seasons, 0 undefeated seasons, 86 NFL draft picks, only 1 heisman winner, and only 10 consensus All-Americans. The head-to-head is tied 8-8.


Now to me, the next era would be from 1958, the start of modern day college football. FSU had 1 national title, 6 conference titles despite only being in a conference for 15% of this era, fourteen 10+ winning seasons, 1 heisman trophy winner, and 22 consensus All-Americans. UF had 1 national title, only 5 conference titles in 39 years, six 10+ winning seasons, 2 heisman trophy winners, and only 15-consensus All-Americans.

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/10/28/9630824/sec-west-sec-east-division-rankings-advanced-stats'>http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/10/28/9630824/sec-west-sec-east-division-rankings-advanced-stats</a>

Stats are pesky lil things aren't they.

Quote:There are many assumptions in your post; however, there are no facts to back it up.  Yes, FSU is better than UF at the moment.  That is obvious, and most would agree.  FSU has been one of the most dominant forces in college football over the last few years while UF has merely been a doormat.  FSU has had 2 losses in 3 years, a 31 game winning streak, 28 consecutive ACC wins, 3 consecutive ACC titles, 1 National Championship, 1 Playoff Appearance, 1 Heisman Trophy Winner, and 29 players drafted in the NFL.  All while UF has been getting beat left and right, whether it be by FSU, the SEC, the ACC, Power-5, or heck even an FCS team such a Georgia Southern.  Heck, the Gators haven't even come remotely close to winning the SEC East.  You know the division the S&P+ rankings have by far and away the worst division in the Power-5 (See link below).

 

Our differences stem from how we see the past.  Now, I will start off with the fact that you are definitely in the MINORITY.  I have never seen a ranking of the best college football programs or a statistical/analytical ranking that has ever had UF even remotely close to being ahead of FSU.  If you find one, I'll be more than happy to look.  

 

The fact is, no matter what era you look at, FSU has consistently been a more dominant force in college football than UF.  The playoff era is of course easy to compare.  FSU has had 1 playoff appearance, 1 conference title, 2 overall losses, 3 consensus All-Americans, and 11 NFL draft picks.  Meanwhile, UF has had 0 playoff appearances, 0 conference titles, 6 overall losses, 0 consensus All-Americans and only 8 NFL draft picks.  Oh, and FSU leads UF 1-0.

 

For the BCS era, we see once again how dominant FSU has been over UF.  Both UF and FSU have 2 BCS National Championships.  That is about the only thing that is even.  FSU had twice as many BCS National Championship appearances; FSU had more BCS Bowl wins; and FSU had more BCS Bowl appearances.  FSU had 8 conference titles, seven 10+ win seasons, 2 undefeated seasons, 90 NFL draft picks, 2 heisman winners, and 17 consensus All-Americans.  Meanwhile, UF had only 3 conference titles, seven 10+ win seasons, 0 undefeated seasons, 86 NFL draft picks, only 1 heisman winner, and only 10 consensus All-Americans. The head-to-head is tied 8-8.

 

Now to me, the next era would be from 1958, the start of modern day college football. FSU had 1 national title, 6 conference titles despite only being in a conference for 15% of this era, fourteen 10+ winning seasons, 1 heisman trophy winner, and 22 consensus All-Americans.  UF had 1 national title, only 5 conference titles in 39 years, six 10+ winning seasons, 2 heisman trophy winners, and only 15-consensus All-Americans.

 

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...nced-stats

 

Quote:I can relatively agree that FSU has had a better run that UF recently, but honestly it's for one basic reason.  It all boils down to conference.  They are in a recruiting hot bed and they play an abysmal schedule year in and year out.  Bobby Bowden has admitted that he picked the ACC over the SEC for a reason.

 

A team that keeps winning (even over inferior competition) is going to have an edge in recruiting. 

 

In the end, the only thing that really matters is they both have 3 National Titles.  So if you want the ultimate ranking as far as winning, it's a tie.  To some it comes down to the almighty dollar, and in that case, UF wins in a landslide.

Come on, everyone knows a decision to go to the SEC was not Bowden's to make. I'm sure he played a role, but it was definitely not a deciding factor. I can almost assure you that FSU wouldn't have joined the SEC no matter how lucrative the offer. They had their chance many times. You can probably even make a movie abiut it. Boy asks pretty girl to date, girl declines. Boy once again asks pretty girl to date, girl once again declines. This happens over and over till all of a sudden the boy becomes the star. The girl now wants the boy more than anything but its too late the boy has moved on to another girl. FSU did what was best for FSU. FSU is most likely the biggest realignment winner ever. They have won tons of titles, made tons of money, and produced more NFL talent that more teams could dream of.


With that said, let's not pretend the SEC was then what it is today. FSU joined the ACC in the early 90's. The SEC hadn't won a national title since Georgia in 1980. Alabama had a run in the 60's and 70's; however, besides them no other SEC team came close to winning a national title since the 40's and 50's. A run through the SEC wouldn't have been so difficult; the SEC was not the conference to beat nor were many of their teams seen as title contenders.

Quote:Come on, everyone knows a decision to go to the SEC was not Bowden's to make. I'm sure he played a role, but it was definitely not a deciding factor. I can almost assure you that FSU wouldn't have joined the SEC no matter how lucrative the offer. They had their chance many times. You can probably even make a movie abiut it. Boy asks pretty girl to date, girl declines. Boy once again asks pretty girl to date, girl once again declines. This happens over and over till all of a sudden the boy becomes the star. The girl now wants the boy more than anything but its too late the boy has moved on to another girl. FSU did what was best for FSU. FSU is most likely the biggest realignment winner ever. They have won tons of titles, made tons of money, and produced more NFL talent that more teams could dream of.


With that said, let's not pretend the SEC was then what it is today. FSU joined the ACC in the early 90's. The SEC hadn't won a national title since Georgia in 1980. Alabama had a run in the 60's and 70's; however, besides them no other SEC team came close to winning a national title since the 40's and 50's. A run through the SEC wouldn't have been so difficult; the SEC was not the conference to beat nor were many of their teams seen as title contenders.

Preach on brother.

Quote:That's funny I can't find anything saying that those wins were vacated.<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida%E2%80%93Florida_State_football_rivalry'>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida–Florida_State_football_rivalry</a><a class="bbc_url" href='http://deadspin.com/5929290/here-are-your-all-time-vacated-wins-leaders-in-division-i-college-football'>http://deadspin.com/5929290/here-are-your-all-time-vacated-wins-leaders-in-division-i-college-football</a>

Try again.

Pell's wins were vacated.

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.realclearsports.com/lists/infamous_ncaa_sanctions/charley_pell_florida.html?state=stop'>http://www.realclearsports.com/lists/infamous_ncaa_sanctions/charley_pell_florida.html?state=stop</a>

Quote:Yea, that's it.

I see you didn't dispute he fact about Syracuse lack of football fan following, so that's a start.

Quote:I can relatively agree that FSU has had a better run that UF recently, but honestly it's for one basic reason. It all boils down to conference. They are in a recruiting hot bed and they play an abysmal schedule year in and year out. Bobby Bowden has admitted that he picked the ACC over the SEC for a reason.


A team that keeps winning (even over inferior competition) is going to have an edge in recruiting.


In the end, the only thing that really matters is they both have 3 National Titles. So if you want the ultimate ranking as far as winning, it's a tie. To some it comes down to the almighty dollar, and in that case, UF wins in a landslide.

Well college isn't just about titles. Its about rivals and conference wins. Winning percentage, players both great in college and in the NFL, heisman trophy winners, etc... They have more money yet FSU has been more successful. Is that a good argument? We have done more with less and won more in less time. UCF, if you aren't on either side than I'm not sure how you can disagree with what he posted since no one here at the moment has come close to making to counter that.. Careful your orange and blue is showing. Might want to cover that if you are going to continue charading around as a UCF fan.

Quote:Come on, everyone knows a decision to go to the SEC was not Bowden's to make. I'm sure he played a role, but it was definitely not a deciding factor. I can almost assure you that FSU wouldn't have joined the SEC no matter how lucrative the offer. They had their chance many times. You can probably even make a movie abiut it. Boy asks pretty girl to date, girl declines. Boy once again asks pretty girl to date, girl once again declines. This happens over and over till all of a sudden the boy becomes the star. The girl now wants the boy more than anything but its too late the boy has moved on to another girl. FSU did what was best for FSU. FSU is most likely the biggest realignment winner ever. They have won tons of titles, made tons of money, and produced more NFL talent that more teams could dream of.


With that said, let's not pretend the SEC was then what it is today. FSU joined the ACC in the early 90's. The SEC hadn't won a national title since Georgia in 1980. Alabama had a run in the 60's and 70's; however, besides them no other SEC team came close to winning a national title since the 40's and 50's. A run through the SEC wouldn't have been so difficult; the SEC was not the conference to beat nor were many of their teams seen as title contenders.

 

The SEC is the most dominant conference, by far, in the 00's.  It's not even close.  If FSU was in the SEC their rebuild would have taken a lot longer to come out of.

 

Fyi, here are Bowden's comments on joining the SEC.  To say he didn't have a huge say in coming to the SEC is disingenuous at best.  http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...sec-051315

Quote:Preach on brother.

 

Are you able to make a valid argument without piggy backing on what he says?  You aren't able to make one valid point in this whole thread without making a joke of yourself, but you have no problem with telling him how smart he is?  Have some pride in yourself.

Quote:Are you able to make a valid argument without piggy backing on what he says? You aren't able to make one valid point in this whole thread without making a joke of yourself, but you have no problem with telling him how smart he is? Have some pride in yourself.

Already made my point earlier and now my fellow FSU brethren, as you coined it earlier, are showing thier support in that we have done more with less. You just sound mad bro.

Quote:Well college isn't just about titles. Its about rivals and conference wins. Winning percentage, players both great in college and in the NFL, heisman trophy winners, etc... They have more money yet FSU has been more successful. Is that a good argument? We have done more with less and won more in less time. UCF, if you aren't on either side than I'm not sure how you can disagree with what he posted since no one here at the moment has come close to making to counter that.. Careful your orange and blue is showing. Might want to cover that if you are going to continue charading around as a UCF fan.

 

I think as far as conference titles we've already outlined who has had more, but there is one glaringly obvious reason why. 

 

You (FSU) are the king of what is arguably the worst conference in college football.  You have to beat 1, possibly 2 teams a year to win your conference while teams in the SEC typically have at least 3 or 4. 

 

I had a whole scenario typed out to make my point, but it was too convoluted.  My basic point is that year over year FSU plays a subpar schedule while the SEC teams faces more pitfalls throughout the year with many more chances for losses.  The SOS of the SEC compared to FSU isn't even close.

 

Fyi...if you go back to 1980, the programs are tied 17-17 head to head.  This year its honestly a coin flip who wins the game.  FSU has a better overall team, but qb defines who you are.  I like Maguire if he can play like he did last week though.  Treon is pretty bad, but UF's defense can keep them in games.

Quote:Already made my point earlier and now my fellow FSU brethren, as you coined it earlier, are showing thier support in that we have done more with less. You just sound mad bro.

 

I'm sitting in my seat fuming.  I am steaming bro.

Quote:I'm sitting in my seat fuming. I am steaming bro.

I know. It's ok. There is plenty of room over here on our bandwagon whenever you're ready. You will be happier. Btw that conference you say is so bad sure does have a lot of nfl players come out of it.

Quote:I see you didn't dispute he fact about Syracuse lack of football fan following, so that's a start.

What post are you referring to regarding Syracuse?

Quote:I think as far as conference titles we've already outlined who has had more, but there is one glaringly obvious reason why.


You (FSU) are the king of what is arguably the worst conference in college football. You have to beat 1, possibly 2 teams a year to win your conference while teams in the SEC typically have at least 3 or 4.


I had a whole scenario typed out to make my point, but it was too convoluted. My basic point is that year over year FSU plays a subpar schedule while the SEC teams faces more pitfalls throughout the year with many more chances for losses. The SOS of the SEC compared to FSU isn't even close.


Fyi...if you go back to 1980, the programs are tied 17-17 head to head. This year its honestly a coin flip who wins the game. FSU has a better overall team, but qb defines who you are. I like Maguire if he can play like he did last week though. Treon is pretty bad, but UF's defense can keep them in games.

You keep saying SEC this, SEC that. Let me teach you a thing or two about scheduling. The majority of UFs games are against the SEC East, the next major chunk of games are out of conference, followed by TWO SEC West games.


The SEC East is by far the worst division of the Power 5 and it's not even close. The S&P+ rankings have the East closer to the AAC West and MAC West then to the PAC-12 North. So the majority of games UF plays is against the worst division in football. Just to break it down: The East is 1-9 against the West. The East also has only ONE win against a non-conference opponent from a Power 5 conference all year. Only 2 teams from the East have winning records, compared to all but 2 in the West. Only 1 team in the East has a winning SEC record, compared to all but 2 in the West. The division schedule should be a walk through; I can think of a few AAC teams that could easily play those games and walk out undefeated. Very sad, I know. FSU meanwhile plays in the second best division in football according to the S&P. RESULT: Much, much, much more difficult schedule for FSU.


The next chunk of UFs schedule is out of conference. The only permanent game is FSU. UF is 1-4 in the last 5 games. The rest of UFs OOC slate are cupcakes. The last time UF played an OOC out of state opponent was their 1991 loss to Syracuse. Since that time, FSU has had OOC match ups against Louisville 2x, LSU, #3 Michigan, , #19 BYU, #2 ND, Kansas, #21 Southern Cal, #14 Texas AM, Iowa State, ND, Syracuse, Colorado, #9 BYU, #10 Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State. Oh, and FSU plays Ole Miss and Alabama the next two years. You just have to look at next year's schedule to see the norm for UF: UMass, North Texas, and Presbyterian. RESULT: Much, much, much more difficult OOC schedule for FSU.


The last 2 games of UFs schedule comes from the SEC West. This proves to be the only difficult part of UFs schedule, and one as of late they have had a terrible time getting past. They are 2 -4 against the West over the last 3 seasons. With that said, the SEC West is the best division in college football. So, RESULT: Much, much, much harder 2 game slate for UF.


But when you look at the whole picture it's easy to see who has the easiest path to the title and it's clearly UF. The majority of their games are against the worst division in the Power 5, coupled with cupcakes that most people didn't even know existed.