Quote:You keep saying SEC this, SEC that. Let me teach you a thing or two about scheduling. The majority of UFs games are against the SEC East, the next major chunk of games are out of conference, followed by TWO SEC West games.
The SEC East is by far the worst division of the Power 5 and it's not even close. The S&P+ rankings have the East closer to the AAC West and MAC West then to the PAC-12 North. So the majority of games UF plays is against the worst division in football. Just to break it down: The East is 1-9 against the West. The East also has only ONE win against a non-conference opponent from a Power 5 conference all year. Only 2 teams from the East have winning records, compared to all but 2 in the West. Only 1 team in the East has a winning SEC record, compared to all but 2 in the West. The division schedule should be a walk through; I can think of a few AAC teams that could easily play those games and walk out undefeated. Very sad, I know. RESULT: Much, much, much more difficult schedule for FSU.
The next chunk of UFs schedule is out of conference. The only permanent game is FSU. UF is 1-4 in the last 5 games. The rest of UFs OOC slate are cupcakes. The last time UF played an OOC out of state opponent was their 1991 loss to Syracuse. Since that time, FSU has had OOC match ups against Louisville 2x, LSU, #3 Michigan, , #19 BYU, #2 ND, Kansas, #21 Southern Cal, #14 Texas AM, Iowa State, ND, Syracuse, Colorado, #9 BYU, #10 Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State. Oh, and FSU plays Ole Miss and Alabama the next week years. You just have to look at next year's schedule to see the norm for UF: UMass, North Texas, and Presbyterian. RESULT: Much, much, much more difficult OOC schedule for FSU.
The last 2 games of UFs schedule comes from the SEC West. This proves to be the only difficult part of UFs schedule, and one as of late they have had a terrible time getting past. They are 2 -4 against the West over the last 3 seasons. With that said, the SEC West is the best division in college football. So, RESULT: Much, much, much harder 2 game slate for UF.
But when you look at the whole picture it's easy to see who has the easiest path to the title and it's clearly UF. The majority of their games are against the worst division in the Power 5, coupled with cupcakes that most people didn't even know existed.
I have a man crush on you and your stats
Quote:I think as far as conference titles we've already outlined who has had more, but there is one glaringly obvious reason why.
You (FSU) are the king of what is arguably the worst conference in college football. You have to beat 1, possibly 2 teams a year to win your conference while teams in the SEC typically have at least 3 or 4.
I had a whole scenario typed out to make my point, but it was too convoluted. My basic point is that year over year FSU plays a subpar schedule while the SEC teams faces more pitfalls throughout the year with many more chances for losses. The SOS of the SEC compared to FSU isn't even close.
Fyi...if you go back to 1980, the programs are tied 17-17 head to head. This year its honestly a coin flip who wins the game. FSU has a better overall team, but qb defines who you are. I like Maguire if he can play like he did last week though. Treon is pretty bad, but UF's defense can keep them in games.
Doesn't dismiss all the years when the sec was down and florida didn't do much. All the points made on the post I referenced were about how dominant FSU has been over uf and did so in a much shorter window. It was a very thorough break down. Haven't seen a counter that holds up to it yet. Luckily gator fans seem to have you to carry the torch.
Both sides can make their arguments, but it seems odd that an unbiased person such as yourself is arguing more for florida than the florida fans. A non biased fan who has no dog in the fight would present arguments for both sides. Strange...
Quote:You keep saying SEC this, SEC that. Let me teach you a thing or two about scheduling. The majority of UFs games are against the SEC East, the next major chunk of games are out of conference, followed by TWO SEC West games.
The SEC East is by far the worst division of the Power 5 and it's not even close. The S&P+ rankings have the East closer to the AAC West and MAC West then to the PAC-12 North. So the majority of games UF plays is against the worst division in football. Just to break it down: The East is 1-9 against the West. The East also has only ONE win against a non-conference opponent from a Power 5 conference all year. Only 2 teams from the East have winning records, compared to all but 2 in the West. Only 1 team in the East has a winning SEC record, compared to all but 2 in the West. The division schedule should be a walk through; I can think of a few AAC teams that could easily play those games and walk out undefeated. Very sad, I know. FSU meanwhile plays in the second best division in football according to the S&P. RESULT: Much, much, much more difficult schedule for FSU.
The next chunk of UFs schedule is out of conference. The only permanent game is FSU. UF is 1-4 in the last 5 games. The rest of UFs OOC slate are cupcakes. The last time UF played an OOC out of state opponent was their 1991 loss to Syracuse. Since that time, FSU has had OOC match ups against Louisville 2x, LSU, #3 Michigan, , #19 BYU, #2 ND, Kansas, #21 Southern Cal, #14 Texas AM, Iowa State, ND, Syracuse, Colorado, #9 BYU, #10 Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State. Oh, and FSU plays Ole Miss and Alabama the next two years. You just have to look at next year's schedule to see the norm for UF: UMass, North Texas, and Presbyterian. RESULT: Much, much, much more difficult OOC schedule for FSU.
The last 2 games of UFs schedule comes from the SEC West. This proves to be the only difficult part of UFs schedule, and one as of late they have had a terrible time getting past. They are 2 -4 against the West over the last 3 seasons. With that said, the SEC West is the best division in college football. So, RESULT: Much, much, much harder 2 game slate for UF.
But when you look at the whole picture it's easy to see who has the easiest path to the title and it's clearly UF. The majority of their games are against the worst division in the Power 5, coupled with cupcakes that most people didn't even know existed.
Daaammmmnnnnn... I just want to know where you have been. You are shutting this thread down.
Couple empty pockets at BHG at start of game. No excuses.
Quote:Couple empty pockets at BHG at start of game. No excuses.
Are you talking to yourself? I think you may be a tad bit obsessed.
Quote:Couple empty pockets at BHG at start of game. No excuses.
Well they are playing Vanderbilt.
It's homecoming....my guess is Gainesville is littered with the bodies of the passed out drunk right now! Lol
Quote:It's homecoming....my guess is Gainesville is littered with the bodies of the passed out drunk right now! Lol
According to Trav that's an excuse. That doesn't fly.
Quote:According to Trav that's an excuse. That doesn't fly.
According to Bunnie...it's a joke.
Quote:According to Bunnie...it's a joke.
Trav isn't in a joking mood. We are talking attendance. This is serious bunnie!
Quote:Trav isn't in a joking mood. We are talking attendance. This is serious bunnie!
Someone has to lighten it up some in here! :thumbsup:
And the Dalvin Cook show continues..
Quote:Trav isn't in a joking mood. We are talking attendance. This is serious bunnie!
I am still fuming here. The spots that were a bit bare when the game started did fill in during mid 2nd quarter, but not full. I am going to make some phone calls shortly.
Quote:Someone has to lighten it up some in here! :thumbsup:
Thank you ma'am.
Quote:You keep saying SEC this, SEC that. Let me teach you a thing or two about scheduling. The majority of UFs games are against the SEC East, the next major chunk of games are out of conference, followed by TWO SEC West games.
The SEC East is by far the worst division of the Power 5 and it's not even close. The S&P+ rankings have the East closer to the AAC West and MAC West then to the PAC-12 North. So the majority of games UF plays is against the worst division in football. Just to break it down: The East is 1-9 against the West. The East also has only ONE win against a non-conference opponent from a Power 5 conference all year. Only 2 teams from the East have winning records, compared to all but 2 in the West. Only 1 team in the East has a winning SEC record, compared to all but 2 in the West. The division schedule should be a walk through; I can think of a few AAC teams that could easily play those games and walk out undefeated. Very sad, I know. FSU meanwhile plays in the second best division in football according to the S&P. RESULT: Much, much, much more difficult schedule for FSU.
The next chunk of UFs schedule is out of conference. The only permanent game is FSU. UF is 1-4 in the last 5 games. The rest of UFs OOC slate are cupcakes. The last time UF played an OOC out of state opponent was their 1991 loss to Syracuse. Since that time, FSU has had OOC match ups against Louisville 2x, LSU, #3 Michigan, , #19 BYU, #2 ND, Kansas, #21 Southern Cal, #14 Texas AM, Iowa State, ND, Syracuse, Colorado, #9 BYU, #10 Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State. Oh, and FSU plays Ole Miss and Alabama the next two years. You just have to look at next year's schedule to see the norm for UF: UMass, North Texas, and Presbyterian. RESULT: Much, much, much more difficult OOC schedule for FSU.
The last 2 games of UFs schedule comes from the SEC West. This proves to be the only difficult part of UFs schedule, and one as of late they have had a terrible time getting past. They are 2 -4 against the West over the last 3 seasons. With that said, the SEC West is the best division in college football. So, RESULT: Much, much, much harder 2 game slate for UF.
But when you look at the whole picture it's easy to see who has the easiest path to the title and it's clearly UF. The majority of their games are against the worst division in the Power 5, coupled with cupcakes that most people didn't even know existed.
You're talking about recent history and I'm talking about the history of the ACC. Two different stories.
Again, Bowden has admitted to why he joined the ACC. He wouldn't have had the success he had in the SEC. There is proof enough right there that the ACC is much more of a cake walk. Keep making things up to make yourselves feel better. If you had any of the top tier teams from the SEC in your conference, a large chunk of your conference titles would be gone. I wouldn't take away any of those national titles because those teams were 100% legit.
Florida is about to get murdered in the SEC Championship. You don't think the Gator fans and everyone else out there knows that? Do you really think other than the completely blind homer fan thinks that they are going to go up there and beat Bama? Lol....Whatever the spread is, take Bama.
Quote:You're talking about recent history and I'm talking about the history of the ACC. Two different stories.
Again, Bowden has admitted to why he joined the ACC. He wouldn't have had the success he had in the SEC. There is proof enough right there that the ACC is much more of a cake walk. Keep making things up to make yourselves feel better. If you had any of the top tier teams from the SEC in your conference, a large chunk of your conference titles would be gone. I wouldn't take away any of those national titles because those teams were 100% legit.
Florida is about to get murdered in the SEC Championship. You don't think the Gator fans and everyone else out there knows that? Do you really think other than the completely blind homer fan thinks that they are going to go up there and beat Bama? Lol....Whatever the spread is, take Bama.
Lol, based on what exactly? Because they're an SEC team?
It's funny how people think this SEC dominance has been going on for 75 years.
Quote:Lol, based on what exactly? Because they're an SEC team?
It's funny how people think this SEC dominance has been going on for 75 years.
Yes, that is exactly what I said.
Quote:You're talking about recent history and I'm talking about the history of the ACC. Two different stories.
Again, Bowden has admitted to why he joined the ACC. He wouldn't have had the success he had in the SEC. There is proof enough right there that the ACC is much more of a cake walk. Keep making things up to make yourselves feel better. If you had any of the top tier teams from the SEC in your conference, a large chunk of your conference titles would be gone. I wouldn't take away any of those national titles because those teams were 100% legit.
Florida is about to get murdered in the SEC Championship. You don't think the Gator fans and everyone else out there knows that? Do you really think other than the completely blind homer fan thinks that they are going to go up there and beat Bama? Lol....Whatever the spread is, take Bama.
No matter what, I will hold the belief that UF will go up there and win.
Quote:No matter what, I will hold the belief that UF will go up there and win.
You're smoking some of that sweet stinky my friend. Come back down to earth, the Gators are going to get jacked up. Then after that game they are going to get smoked in their bowl game because they aren't going to be able to bounce back (and they don't have an offense with Grier.)
They don't have the offense to hang with Bama....they were LUCKY to hang with LSU.