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Quote:Last week was embarrasing. Poz should not be that critical to the run defense. The Panthers have been without Kuechly and Lotulelei most of the season and have the 6th ranked run defense.
 

He shouldn't, but I thought Armbrister was awful.
Quote:It was, i couldn't believe what i was seeing.  We shut down Gore completely until one run in OT.
 

...after Poz went out.
Lack of grit.  Players not taking practice and coaches seriously.

Quote:...after Poz went out.
...conclusive evidence.
Quote:...conclusive evidence.
 

I think that and the body of work in Tampa certainly shows some conclusive evidence that we are way better against the run with him in there.
Almost all the things listed can be traced back to the fact that DC has not been drafting very many defensive players in the early rounds. Bad tackling? Need better players. No pass rush? Need better players.

 

I agree with the poster that said next years draft is going to be heavy in the front 7. I'd be shocked if 2 of the first 3 round picks were not DL/LB, and then 2-3 more in the later rounds. 

Didn't our D play well in 3 out of the 5 games?

Quote:Didn't our D play well in 3 out of the 5 games?
 

No.  Only one (Panthers.)

 

The answer is simple - the front seven aren't getting the job done.
Quote:No.  Only one (Panthers.)

 

The answer is simple - the front seven aren't getting the job done.
Minus penalties they played well against the Colts too.
Quote:Last week was embarrasing. Poz should not be that critical to the run defense. The Panthers have been without Kuechly and Lotulelei most of the season and have the 6th ranked run defense.
There were real concerns about the LB depth going into camp. I think we were lulled into a false sense of security by some nice plays by our back ups against other back ups during the preseason.

 

Unfortunately,that play didn't transfer when facing starters in real games.
Quote:100%. Fowler injured, Marks injured. Branch has not gotten any better. Odrick has been mediocre outside of the Miami game.


Odrick isn't a pass rusher. He plays the other end.
Quote:There were real concerns about the LB depth going into camp. I think we were lulled into a false sense of security by some nice plays by our back ups against other back ups during the preseason.


Unfortunately,that play didn't transfer when facing starters in real games.


And cutting Jeremiah George was probably a mistake.
Should trade for some sort of pass rusher
Quote:Minus penalties they played well against the Colts too.
 

I can see that argument.

 

That was their second fewest total yards allowed, but it was still over 300 (with 326.)
Quote:Under Dave Caldwell, draft picks in the first 3 rounds, where you expect to find starters:

 

Offense: LT, QB, WR, WR, RB, G, G

Defense: S, CB, LEO

 

Conclusion: This regime has focused on adding talent on the offensive side of the ball, and it looks like it may be starting to pay off. The defense simply doesn't have the horses right now. Give it time.
 

I'm not buying it. Caldwell has been hitting on late round defenders. Telvin is 2nd in the NFL in tackles and one of the best LBs in the last two drafts, Colvin is as good as most 1st round CBs, and Sample and Bennett look promising as rookies.


 

The sack numbers would be better if the Jags blitzed and stunted more. In the past two weeks we faced a confused rookie and an ill 40 year old backup behind an OL in shambles. Why were the Jags playing a vanilla defense in those two games?

Quote:I'm not buying it. Caldwell has been hitting on late round defenders. Telvin is 2nd in the NFL in tackles and one of the best LBs in the last two drafts, Colvin is as good as most 1st round CBs, and Sample and Bennett look promising as rookies.


The sack numbers would be better if the Jags blitzed and stunted more. In the past two weeks we faced a confused rookie and an ill 40 year old backup behind an OL in shambles. Why were the Jags playing a vanilla defense in those two games?


I haven't seen any good argument for why we have decided to play such a conservative and predictable defense.
pass rush is not the only reason.  The team lacks basic fundamentals. They can't tackle

Quote:He shouldn't, but I thought Armbrister was awful.


He was. Poz diagnoses plays so quickly and makes the tackle at or around the LOS. Armbrister is watching and reacting so is easily blocked and taken out of the play.
Needed McCourty and a healthy Marks/Fowler. Also doesn't help that McCray went from a shutdown corner to bottom of the depth chart
Quote:Under Dave Caldwell, draft picks in the first 3 rounds, where you expect to find starters:

 

Offense: LT, QB, WR, WR, RB, G, G

Defense: S, CB, LEO

 

Conclusion: This regime has focused on adding talent on the offensive side of the ball, and it looks like it may be starting to pay off. The defense simply doesn't have the horses right now. Give it time.
 

Not buying it.  The Jags  have talent on defense when they're all healthy.  Not that it's perfect, they lack a little speed/depth at linebacker and they need another rush end (outside of Fowler when he gets back). 
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