Quote:Exactly.
Him inside next to Malik Jackson, who is a pretty good inside pass rusher in his own right, between Fowler and Ngakoue sounds really good.
But given the depth of this class, I'd go back and get another edge rusher later on.
You can never have enough pass rushers so I'm 100% in for this.
Once FA hits, we will all get a much better picture of who they are going to draft. If they go after Jefferson, you can kiss Adams or Hooker goodbye. I don't see them adding a RB in FA so maybe that's in play but if they go hard after guards, I think they stay put with Ivory and Yeldon but draft someone later.
I think you're looking at Dline help with pick #4 simply because there are no good pass rushers out there this year.
Quote:Personally, when I look at Thomas, I see his best spot being 3T. Maybe he does just as well at LDE, but his sample size at Stanford was at DT, and it was a really really really good sample at 3T.
We also don't know what "scheme" we'll be running. If we're mostly keeping our front, I don't know that spending the 4th pick on a "hold your point against the run" is the best bang for our buck.
Weight wise, I think he's perfect for LDE.
Strahan was 275 his last years with the Giants, but he was 2 inches taller.
Quote:You can never have enough pass rushers so I'm 100% in for this.
Once FA hits, we will all get a much better picture of who they are going to draft. If they go after Jefferson, you can kiss Adams or Hooker goodbye. I don't see them adding a RB in FA so maybe that's in play but if they go hard after guards, I think they stay put with Ivory and Yeldon but draft someone later.
I think you're looking at Dline help with pick #4 simply because there are no good pass rushers out there this year.
Well, if Mayock is to be believed, this draft is a bumper crop of edge rushers.
Thomas seems to be the logical pick for us based on need and value. Consider me on board.
Quote:Personally, when I look at Thomas, I see his best spot being 3T. Maybe he does just as well at LDE, but his sample size at Stanford was at DT, and it was a really really really good sample at 3T.
We also don't know what "scheme" we'll be running. If we're mostly keeping our front, I don't know that spending the 4th pick on a "hold your point against the run" is the best bang for our buck.
In that tape against N. Carolina I noticed he was doing a bit of 5-tech as the LDE in a 3-4 as I was reminded of JJ Watt.
One question...
Why is he called "Camp Solomon Thomas"?
I'm on board the Thomas at #4 train officially.
I know these DBs are putting on a helluva show at the combine today, but I really feel like the depth of the class means a good one will be there at #35 for the Jags, and that's where I'd hope to land one.
Quote:I'm on board the Thomas at #4 train officially.
I know these DBs are putting on a helluva show at the combine today, but I really feel like the depth of the class means a good one will be there at #35 for the Jags, and that's where I'd hope to land one.
Cyp was a good one.. first round value slipped to round two and all... but we have an opportunity to do so much better with Adams. I truly feel like he'd take our secondary to that elite tier.
Maybe this is a little odd, but Osi Umenyiora keeps popping into my head when I watch him play. Osi always struck me as squatty type guy and I keep getting the same feeling from Thomas. Not all the time, but several different instances pop into my head. Might just be that wacky four point stance that he uses.
Solomon Thomas is our chance to make up for not taking Ziggy Ansah, Khalil Mack, and Vic Beasley all in back to back years. If we STILL pass on him when it is obvious as day he will be a premier pass rusher in the league and haven't learned anything from the past 4 years I give up.
Quote:Solomon Thomas is our chance to make up for not taking Ziggy Ansah, Khalil Mack, and Vic Beasley all in back to back years. If we STILL pass on him when it is obvious as day he will be a premier pass rusher in the league and haven't learned anything from the past 4 years I give up.
Are you hoping two QBs and Garrett get drafted before us? With Allen's health a question mark, kinda seems like at this point Thomas may be gone.
Quote:Solomon Thomas is our chance to make up for not taking Ziggy Ansah, Khalil Mack, and Vic Beasley all in back to back years. If we STILL pass on him when it is obvious as day he will be a premier pass rusher in the league and haven't learned anything from the past 4 years I give up.
He's not that type of pass rusher though. He's more like Aaron Donald than Khalil Mack.
Quote:He's not that type of pass rusher though. He's more like Aaron Donald than Khalil Mack.
Yes, he is. Stanford played him inside, but he can rush from the outside as well, even if he has to get used to it. I already posted instances of him bending the edge and beating tackles like they're nothing. He is too big, strong, and agile for tackles to handle and his hand usage is above average for a DE because he played inside. He can abuse a tackle with power or go around them with speed and bend. He is the complete package. This is the same thing people said about Ansah in 2013 because of how Colorado played him. As I've been saying repeatedly for the past two months, it's more to Thomas's credit that he is so good of a player that Stanford legit could play him on the inside 95% of the time, and they did that because he was their best interior rusher. Thomas shows all the traits of an edge rusher, Stanford just didn't use him as one, and his combine more than backed that up. I'm not just going off his combine, his combine just confirmed what I saw on tape, a guy that can be a legit probowl edge rusher at the next level. Sleep on Thomas if you want but he will be a double digit nightmare in the NFL and if we don't take him we will be looking back on it just like we are Ansah, Mack, and Beasley, and will be regretting it while still being stuck with our mediocre edge rush.
Solomon Thomas is what NFL evaluators thought Dante Fowler was, even though it was obvious he wasn't. If Fowler is a top 3 pick and we don't take Thomas 4th overall there is something seriously wrong with the NFL scouting evaluation process. Thomas can literally rush in any way you want, from the left or right side, from the inside, standing up or with his hands in the ground, he can beat the tackle around the edge or to the inside of them. And he is a savant in the run game. He is Justin Houston 2.0.
Quote:<div>Can Myles Garret? And yes it does.
https://youtu.be/9_kfbI-2oHk?t=230
https://youtu.be/9_kfbI-2oHk?t=260
https://youtu.be/9_kfbI-2oHk?t=648
https://youtu.be/9_kfbI-2oHk?t=715
You can also see his ability to bend against guards when he's rushing on the inside
https://youtu.be/9_kfbI-2oHk?t=149
Thomas has all the traits of an edge rusher. It really just speaks more to how good he is that he can also legitimately play on the inside so well Stanford put him there because he was also their best interior rusher.
Also problems in pursuit?
https://youtu.be/d44WGObcnaQ?t=205
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And he just turned 21 at the end of December so he's still young as hell and learning. This guy is a top 5, probowl/all-pro pass rusher in the making all day.
Is Thomas your brother or something?
Thomas is literally nothing like Khalil Mack.
Quote:Thomas is literally nothing like Khalil Mack.
That spider chart tho
Quote:Thomas is literally nothing like Khalil Mack.
ok bro.
Quote:That spider chart tho
and you still haven't replied to my post.
Quote:ok bro.
and you still haven't replied to my post.
What post.