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You're right, clearly i have an agenda because im tired of this team losing. Clearly ive written everywhere that i want this coach fired and every player cut. The only thing you apologists like doing more than making excuses for the team is claiming those who see what a turd this team is, has an agenda.
Quote:That's all you got tubbs? Talk about primi.
 

I'm not the one pouncing on every post you put out there in less than a minute.  We should call you the 30 second man. 

 

Quote:We have gone through 3 coaches (4 technically) in 10 years and 3 GM's. Its not as if they've stuck with the same people. You want another overhaul correct?
 

That's what premature twitchy types do.  Well, that and disappoint.

 

Quote:He can't catch or stay healthy. Lee can't stay healthy. Buts tendencies. Blackmon couldn't put the for or drink down he's a bust. These guys may very well be on the path to bust. They have this year to prove it. So far it's not looking good.
 

He can't stay healthy because he broke his foot last year?  As is the case with everything you do, go back and check his injury history in college, twitchy.  It may require more time than you're capable of mustering, but I can assure you that he's hardly an injury concern.  The broken foot was an anomaly.


Lee was drafted knowing there was a lingering injury.  The hamstring injury he's suffering from now isn't unusual for a player who was on the shelf most of last year and trying to come back.  Again, twitchy goes with premature evaluation.  Jimmy Smith was oft injured in his first few years as well, but somehow managed to have a pretty good career.  Receivers take time to develop in the NFL historically, but I wouldn't expect you to grasp that point because it requires some mental stamina, and it's pretty clear you don't have that going for you.
Quote:We have gone through 3 coaches (4 technically) in 10 years and 3 GM's. Its not as if they've stuck with the same people. You want another overhaul correct?


At the very least I would want a new head coach and oc. Never liked Gus and certainly not Olsen. Caldwell is shown potential.
Quote:Kids of today! Man few people are any good till the 3rd year.
Exactly.  Every year there's a phenom who enters the league and is productive, but history says the vast majority of good players, especially at that position, take a few years to adapt to the NFL game.
Quote:At the very least I would want a new head coach and oc. Never liked Gus and certainly not Olsen. Caldwell is shown potential.
Good call, twitchy.   That would be Bortles what?  3rd OC in 3 years?  Great idea.  You're really living up to your reputation.  We're exactly 1 game into Olson's tenure as the OC, and it's time to pop the cork as far as you're concerned.

Quote:I'm not the one pouncing on every post you put out there in less than a minute. We should call you the 30 second man.



That's what premature twitchy types do. Well, that and disappoint.



He can't stay healthy because he broke his foot last year? As is the case with everything you do, go back and check his injury history in college, twitchy. It may require more time than you're capable of mustering, but I can assure you that he's hardly an injury concern. The broken foot was an anomaly.


Lee was drafted knowing there was a lingering injury. The hamstring injury he's suffering from now isn't unusual for a player who was on the shelf most of last year and trying to come back. Again, twitchy goes with premature evaluation. Jimmy Smith was oft injured in his first few years as well, but somehow managed to have a pretty good career. Receivers take time to develop in the NFL historically, but I wouldn't expect you to grasp that point because it requires some mental stamina, and it's pretty clear you don't have that going for you.


Whoa! Look at all those excuses. Slow down tubbs some jelly might leak out if you blow a gasket.
Quote:He can't catch or stay healthy. Lee can't stay healthy. Bust tendencies. Blackmon couldn't put the dro or the drink down he's a bust. These guys may very well be on the path to bust. They have this year to prove it. So far it's not looking good.


Hold on. Wait one minute. You mean they get 2 full years? I thought they were busts already?
Quote:Whoa! Look at all those excuses. Slow down tubbs some jelly might leak out if you blow a gasket.
Excuses are simply facts the slow witted refuse to acknowledge because they aren't capable of thinking beyond the moment.  Congrats twitchy.  Predictable as always. 
Quote:Hold on. Wait one minute. You mean they get 2 full years? I thought they were busts already?
Twitchy sees them as busts until such time as they prove him wrong, at which time, twitchy will make a declaration that he knew from the moment they were selected that they would be great players.  The one thing about premature evaluators is they have to rely on short memories from those they disappoint.
You're right, they're all gonna blossum in their 3rd year, just like you told us Derek Cox, Mike Thomas, Eugene Monroe, and the rest of Genes rejects would.
Quote:Twitchy sees them as busts until such time as they prove him wrong, at which time, twitchy will make a declaration that he knew from the moment they were selected that they would be great players. The one thing about premature evaluators is they have to rely on short memories from those they disappoint.


Hey fat boy. I challenge you to go find one instance that I've ever done what your claiming. That's not my style. When I'm wrong I have no problem admitting it. let's see what you can find. Will be waiting. But I'm gonna guess that you stuck you big fat nasty foot in your gravy slobbered mouth again.
My new poll.   Twitchy or tubbs?  Twitchy seems to have the most relevance as far as a nic-name right now.

Quote:You're right, they're all gonna blossum in their 3rd year, just like you told us Derek Cox, Mike Thomas, Eugene Monroe, and the rest of Genes rejects would.
 

Unfair assessment, my friend.

 

You have to consider each player as an individual case based on their circumstances. I dunno, maybe I'm insane, but I'm not really seeing how we can seriously be declaring these kids busts when neither one has played what amounts to a full season of football yet.
Quote:The original post is great if you read it in a Donald Trump voice. It's great, I promise.
 

ridicule me all you want, doesn't change the fact that anyone who thinks this team is in any type of good shape is just wrong. Including you. You act like using sarcasm and a real dry sense of humor covers up how horrible this team is. lol
Quote:Dude you hit the nail on the head. But overall coaching and management messed this thing up they had a great opportunity to start the season right and it was choked away. The players have to make plays but geez the coaches have to allow them to progress.
Exactly, the coaches have to put these players in the best position to succeed.


On the pick 6, I don't how the left side of the play was designed, but the right side of the play was cluttered, just begging the panthers dbs to bite. Poor decision by Bortles, but poor play design by Olsen too.
Quote:You're right, they're all gonna blossum in their 3rd year, just like you told us Derek Cox, Mike Thomas, Eugene Monroe, and the rest of Genes rejects would.


You see how these guys operate. They attack the differing opinion and get there dumb mindless following cast of characters to chime in. But when it doesn't pan out they tuck tail and go on to the next one.
Quote:You're right, they're all gonna blossum in their 3rd year, just like you told us Derek Cox, Mike Thomas, Eugene Monroe, and the rest of Genes rejects would.
 

Nobody is saying that.  This is simply an historical fact in the NFL that even some of the best receivers in the league take time to reach their potential. 

 

It's funny.  Are you involved in the "we should have never traded Eugene Monroe!" crowd?  Because by year 3, he was actually a very serviceable LT for this team.  Nothing great, but not nearly as bad as the same message board wannabe GMs tried to portray.  When he was traded (and still to this day), those folks opined the decision to move on (even though they were howling that he needed to go right up to the week after he was traded) as one of the great mistakes of the Caldwell era.  So, now you're lumping him in with Mike Thomas and Derek Cox, one of which we got trade value for, and the other who couldn't stay healthy.  Is that correct?

Quote:Exactly, the coaches have to put these players in the best position to succeed.


On the pick 6, I don't how the left side of the play was designed, but the right side of the play was cluttered, just begging the panthers dbs to bite. Poor decision by Bortles, but poor play design by Olsen too.


I couldn't agree more.
Quote:I think we've officially bottomed out on this message board.
 

No... we've officially bottomed out as an NFL team. open your eyes
Quote:Hey fat boy. I challenge you to go find one instance that I've ever done what your claiming. That's not my style. When I'm wrong I have no problem admitting it. let's see what you can find. Will be waiting. But I'm gonna guess that you stuck you big fat nasty foot in your gravy slobbered mouth again.
We'll see, twitchy.  Unlike you, I reserve judgment until such time as there's a clear body of evidence to back up a point. 
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