Quote:Yeah, that's why Carroll got Jimmy Graham this offseason, and what about 2007?. How many records were broken because Brady had a monster is Randy Moss, not petite Randy Moss.
I remember thinkiong Moss was a has been at that time too, he surprised me that year for sure. Didnt really expect much from him and he goes and sets records... Wish we set records.
Quote:Unfair assessment, my friend.
You have to consider each player as an individual case based on their circumstances. I dunno, maybe I'm insane, but I'm not really seeing how we can seriously be declaring these kids busts when neither one has played what amounts to a full season of football yet.
Its not unfair. Some of us choose to see the reality, others don't. When we said Genes drafts were terrible we were called bibbers and supposedly had an agenda. I have no declared anyone a bust or called for anyone to get cut yet i have an agenda because i have a different opinion.
Quote:Nobody is saying that. This is simply an historical fact in the NFL that even some of the best receivers in the league take time to reach their potential.
It's funny. Are you involved in the "we should have never traded Eugene Monroe!" crowd? Because by year 3, he was actually a very serviceable LT for this team. Nothing great, but not nearly as bad as the same message board wannabe GMs tried to portray. When he was traded (and still to this day), those folks have been opining the decision to move on (even though they were howling that he needed to go right up to the week after he was traded) as one of the great mistakes of the Caldwell era. So, now you're lumping him in with Mike Thomas and Derek Cox, one of which we got trade value for, and the other who couldn't stay healthy. Is that correct?
Is staying healthy not part of it? If you can't play you can't produce. Very simple.
Quote:Another apologist. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean it's trolling.
This board is full of them.. apologists with at least 10k+ posts who act like we're not the worst team in the NFL
Quote:You see how these guys operate. They attack the differing opinion and get there dumb mindless following cast of characters to chime in. But when it doesn't pan out they tuck tail and go on to the next one.
Okay twitchy. I've been around here a long time, and I can honestly say without need of a supporting cast that I don't run away from anything, but hey, this is your judgment, and as we all know, you tend to be quick with the trigger.
Quote:Its not unfair. Some of us choose to see the reality, others don't. When we said Genes drafts were terrible we were called bibbers and supposedly had an agenda. I have no declared anyone a bust or called for anyone to get cut yet i have an agenda because i have a different opinion.
Exactly. All I've said is these guys show bust tendencies and need to turn it around this year. But I'm getting run over by tubbs and the gravy train.
Quote:Exactly. All I've said is these guys show bust tendencies and need to turn it around this year. But I'm getting run over by tubbs and the gravy train.
The twitchy two step has begun. What were previously defined as busts are now showing bust tendencies.
Quote:Is staying healthy not part of it? If you can't play you can't produce. Very simple.
For a player who wasn't injured in college, to have issues staying on the field because of injuries is an indictment of the GM how exactly, twitchy? Are they supposed to have this psychic ability that's only reserved for premature evaluators like you?
Quote:The twitchy two step has begun. What were previously defined as busts are now showing bust tendencies.
I'm still waiting for you to prove your inaccurate proclamation. I haven't changed my opinion. I've said there on a path to being busts. I never said anything else. Keep trying to slander.
Quote:This board is full of them.. apologists with at least 10k+ posts who act like we're not the worst team in the NFL
The board is also full of those with just over 300 posts that aren't happy unless we are throwing it down the field 20+ yards every play, scoring 50+ points every game and holding opponents to under 10.
Quote:The twitchy two step has begun. What were previously defined as busts are now showing bust tendencies.
it's funny how you're arguing so hard for a team that is so bad. quit acting like it's a bad thing that people are pointing out how horrible we are. You should spend more time looking at our team and less time assigning titles to every poster on here, sir moderator sir
Quote:I'm still waiting for you to prove your inaccurate proclamation. I haven't changed my opinion. I've said there on a path to being busts. I never said anything else. Keep trying to slander.
Arguing with an Administrator is like trying to get a win in Everbank.
Quote:The board is also full of those with just over 300 posts that aren't happy unless we are throwing it down the field 20+ yards every play, scoring 50+ points every game and holding opponents to under 10.
Literally nowhere have I ever said that i expected any of that.... but alright my dude. Just because I'm stating the obvious doesn't mean I'm a 10 year old who expects madden scores every game. Funny you should bring up scores tho. How many points did we score last game again?
Quote:The board is also full of those with just over 300 posts that aren't happy unless we are throwing it down the field 20+ yards every play, scoring 50+ points every game and holding opponents to under 10.
Whoa whoa. Who the hell is yelling for that? Don't start making crap up like tubbs. Plenty of us wanted the running game to continue and mix in the pass. Just get outta here with that bush.
Quote:The board is also full of those with just over 300 posts that aren't happy unless we are throwing it down the field 20+ yards every play, scoring 50+ points every game and holding opponents to under 10.
I don't like the fact we aren't getting shut outs. This is some BS!
Quote:The board is also full of those with just over 300 posts that aren't happy unless we are throwing it down the field 20+ yards every play, scoring 50+ points every game and holding opponents to under 10.
Scoring more than a TD a game would be sufficient. You act like this team is winning.
Quote:Its not unfair. Some of us choose to see the reality, others don't. When we said Genes drafts were terrible we were called bibbers and supposedly had an agenda. I have no declared anyone a bust or called for anyone to get cut yet i have an agenda because i have a different opinion.
So you aren't declaring them busts nor do you want them to get cut, but you have a different opinion? I don't think anyone is saying Robinson is playing well.
Quote:Arguing with an Administrator is like trying to get a win in Everbank.
Administrator? On a jags board. Does that mean anything? The guy attacked me with names and accusing me so far of not being able to hold onto a relationship and having premature issues. Things that 1 are not true and 2 have nothing to do with the jags After I initially asked him to stop he plain ignored it.
But I like the banter and have no problem dishing back with some jags discussion in between. So tubbs it is.
Quote:Literally nowhere have I ever said that i expected any of that.... but alright my dude. Just because I'm stating the obvious doesn't mean I'm a 10 year old who expects madden scores every game. Funny you should bring up scores tho. How many points did we score last game again?
Scoring points seems to be important to you. What if we won the game 3-0? Would that be a bad thing, even though the offense didn't score points?
Quote:So you aren't declaring them busts nor do you want them to get cut, but you have a different opinion? I don't think anyone is saying Robinson is playing well.
I am talking about years past in that. I don't think anyone is asking for these WRs to get cut.