Quote:Dude, they are being blown the hell up where they are. What part of that is not clicking with you?
What part of
there are Arab countries where they could flee to to get out of harms way is not clicking with you?
These "refugees" are coming from Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Lebanon, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Pakistan among other Arab nations. They're not all fleeing Syrian violence, but hey, spin it any way you see fit.
Quote:Or, instead of getting involved in yet another insanely expensive, unpopular war that we can't win, just spend tens of thousands of American lives on, how about we help them get out of that country and into safe situations, including bringing some to America?
You don't think your beloved ruler isn't already involving our military in Syria? Is it okay just because he's using drones and sending weapons over there to arm ISIL to fight Assad as long as there are no boots on the ground? You folks on the left really have to contort yourselves into some serious knots to defend what's going on right now.
Quote:You don't think your beloved ruler isn't already involving our military in Syria?
I would just like to point out that Obama is an average President at best.
Quote:What part of there are Arab countries where they could flee to to get out of harms way is not clicking with you?
These "refugees" are coming from Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Lebanon, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Pakistan among other Arab nations. They're not all fleeing Syrian violence, but hey, spin it any way you see fit.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/09/un-mig...adult-men/
72% adult men
13% women
15% children
53% Syrian
If they are all getting blown up, why is it a super majority of young, adult men leaving? What about the women and children? Do they not matter?
Quote:Sure then present a solution. What do you want to do other then demagogue and entire group of people?
This country is the largest provider of humanitarian aid on global scale. If these "refugees" were truly fleeing violence just to get out of harms way, there are Arab countries who could accommodate them, and I have no doubt that we could provide whatever resources are necessary in humanitarian aid to help house and feed them, and to provide them with medical assistance. They're looking for the wealthiest welfare states to land in so that they can milk the system. I know, that's really insensitive to say, but if you read some of the reports, that's exactly why they're heading to Germany.
This country doesn't need to bring a single one of these "refugees" to our country to provide assistance. But, for the "refugees" who have already come to this country over the past few years since the Syrian situation erupted, more than 90% of them are still receiving federal assistance, and they've been receiving those benefits since their feet hit the ground in the US.
Quote:I would just like to point out that Obama is an average President at best.
I think you're being generous.
Quote:http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/09/un-mig...adult-men/
72% adult men
13% women
15% children
53% Syrian
If they are all getting blown up, why is it a super majority of young, adult men leaving? What about the women and children? Do they not matter?
They're considered property.
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Agenda driven? Sure. Sick? Sure. How many were refugees? You're right, all it takes is one. Whats the solution?
So you gave me a list of domestic acts of terrorism (although some of them are just acts of murder), extremely dwarfed by acts of Islamic terrorism (which make up a good portion of that list). That suddenly OKs the acceptance of 10,000 refugees, 2,500 of which support Jihad?
The solution is don't accept them.
Quote:This country is the largest provider of humanitarian aid on global scale. If these "refugees" were truly fleeing violence just to get out of harms way, there are Arab countries who could accommodate them, and I have no doubt that we could provide whatever resources are necessary in humanitarian aid to help house and feed them, and to provide them with medical assistance. They're looking for the wealthiest welfare states to land in so that they can milk the system.
I'm not sure if you actually bothered to read my post with ideas on how we could accommodate refugees in a humanitarian fashion while still protecting US interests. Among my suggestions were thorough vetting of who they were, holding them all in safe, isolated facilities until the vetting was complete, sending back any who had extensive criminal histories, known ties to terrorist organizations or little/no background (assuming they're hiding something), and forcing refugees to check in regularly on short-term visas while providing limited government benefits for the first 30-60 days. I'm not suggesting we just roll the red carpet out for anyone and everyone who wants to claim that they're a refugee then turn them loose on welfare and the ACA, not even close.
Quote:Good tact. Dismiss the report because of the source. The fact that it's pointing out a major flaw in our ability to identify potential terrorists in the 100k refugees we're about to open our doors for thanks to your beloved ruler is no cause for concern I guess. I'm sure these are all well-intentioned refugees.
Nothing like making bigoted assumptions based on a last name, eh hypocrite?
Oh...he was a muslim then? Besides it wasnt an assumtion. Follow your own advice and do some research
You sure talk a lotta smack about military stuff and what is happening in the ME, for someone whose only time he had his boots on the ground was when he stepped off his kawasaki to go into a Dunkin Donuts
Quote:I'm not sure if you actually bothered to read my post with ideas on how we could accommodate refugees in a humanitarian fashion while still protecting US interests. Among my suggestions were thorough vetting of who they were, holding them all in safe, isolated facilities until the vetting was complete, sending back any who had extensive criminal histories, known ties to terrorist organizations or little/no background (assuming they're hiding something), and forcing refugees to check in regularly on short-term visas while providing limited government benefits for the first 30-60 days. I'm not suggesting we just roll the red carpet out for anyone and everyone who wants to claim that they're a refugee then turn them loose on welfare and the ACA, not even close.
The Homeland Security Committee Chairman says there isn't enough data to determine the refugees are not connected to terrorist groups. Words from his mouth.
Quote:The Homeland Security Committee Chairman says there isn't enough data to determine the refugees are not connected to terrorist groups. Words from his mouth.
Would you expect the Homeland Insecurity Committee Chairman to say anything other than, "blah blah terrorism"?
Quote:Oh...he was a muslim then? Besides it wasnt an assumtion. Follow your own advice and do some research
You sure talk a lotta smack about military stuff and what is happening in the ME, for someone whose only time he had his boots on the ground was when he stepped off his kawasaki to go into a Dunkin Donuts
Feel free to show your research that indicates Goldberg is Jewish. I'll wait. I've only seen 3 media reports on the situation, and not a single one mentioned his Jewish background, and based on the jihadist websites he frequented, if he has any inclinations, it involves the something a little more Middle Eastern in variety.
I didn't realize stating fact was considered "talking smack". Nor did I realize one was required to have a military background in order to have a clue what's going on. Clearly you have a firm grasp on everything. What were you? An enlisted cook in the Navy who has a full mastery of all things military?
Quote:Would you expect the Homeland Insecurity Committee Chairman to say anything other than, "blah blah terrorism"?
I know, right? Why should I expect anyone in a governmental position to know anything about his job.
Quote:Would you expect the Homeland Insecurity Committee Chairman to say anything other than, "blah blah terrorism"?
What a classic leftist response. First you dismiss it because of the source. Then it's just some politician saying what he's supposed to say. It couldn't possibly be fact.
This new injection of anger, vitriol, name calling and general lack of class has really helped out both this discussion and the thread in general. I wonder what happened here to change things.
Quote:What a classic leftist response. First you dismiss it because of the source. Then it's just some politician saying what he's supposed to say. It couldn't possibly be fact.
If an MSNBC article cited a government official saying that the HSC chair was full of it and I linked that here, what would you do?
Here's a hint: you wouldn't take the MSNBC article's source at his word.
Quote:What a classic leftist response. First you dismiss it because of the source. Then it's just some politician saying what he's supposed to say. It couldn't possibly be fact.
I love how you keep ignoring my thoughts on how to bring refugees over safely, instead deciding to label me a leftist over and over again.
Go into the Kentucky clerk and minimum wage threads and please, tell me again about how leftist I am.
Quote:I love how you keep ignoring my thoughts on how to bring refugees over safely, instead deciding to label me a leftist over and over again.
Go into the Kentucky clerk and minimum wage threads and please, tell me again about how leftist I am.
Just give up the act. Everyone knows you have dear leader's (serious how dumb of an insult is that) portrait on your wall.