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Other people are starting to speak up about this. 

 

"Mixon pleaded not guilty to a misdemeanor charge of assault last summer after allegedly punching a woman in the face. She was knocked unconscious by the punch and suffered a broken jaw, broken cheek bone, fractured sinus an fractured orbit near her left eye. There is reportedly video evidence of that incident, too, which Oklahoma saw before deciding to suspend Mixon for the entire 2014 season, reinstating him for spring practice in 2015. The video was sealed in court and therefore will not be released publicly (unless TMZ does what it does, of course). Mixon will play for the Sooners this fall.

 

Now add this: In March, a video surfaced of members of the SAE fraternity at Oklahoma chanting a racial slur on a bus, which ignited national outrage and led to the involved students being expelled from the university and the Norman chapter of the fraternity being shut down. Mixon gets a second chance after obliterating a woman's face, but the racist chanters don't. This is where Casillas has a problem."

 

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...ard-070815

It just blows me away to think about the magnitude that action had on De'Andre's life.  The dude was probably the most popular dude at First Coast, rooted for FSU his entire life, and is now sitting at home, going to abuse prevention classes, talking to lawyers, and removing any and all FSU items from his home.

 

5 seconds and 1 bad judgement response is all it takes.

 

I only hope this makes him a better person and he goes on to have success elsewhere a la Cam Newton.  Who knows, he may have sat the bench his entire career at FSU anyway given the elite QB competition they have now and also coming into their 2016 recruiting class.

Quote:Other people are starting to speak up about this. 

 

 

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...ard-070815
 

I agree with what he says involving the video.  It seems that you can do something heinous and as long as there is no video the punishment is much less.  Ray Rice had a small suspension until the video came out and it exploded. 

 

The image is always worse than the story, but Ray Rice didn't lie about what happened, Ozzie Newsome even said he told the truth.
Quote:Would I have hit her?  probably not.  But then of course that's because if I was single and in college again i'd be thinking of other forms of corrective behavior for a feisty attractive blond but that's another story. 


Ummm... Ok?
I love it when anyone defends the man in this situation by saying "well, women wanted equal rights".

 

Johnson had a chance to be a man, but he chose to react like a child.

I hope he gets a second chance somewhere. He messed up, I think he knows this. Live and learn, and don't do it again. 

Quote:I hope he gets a second chance somewhere. He messed up, I think he knows this. Live and learn, and don't do it again. 
He will. Might not get another chance in 1-A, but I bet you there are already FCS coaches out there figuring out how to word the press release saying that he's been added on scholarship.
Quote:He will. Might not get another chance in 1-A, but I bet you there are already FCS coaches out there figuring out how to word the press release saying that he's been added on scholarship.
 

He needs to come out and make a statement (which I know he cant because of the charges against him) and just say I know I did something wrong, apologize apologize apologize and try to move on.  I think if people see actual remorse sooner than later, his chances of getting into a better school significantly increases.
Quote:He needs to come out and make a statement (which I know he cant because of the charges against him) and just say I know I did something wrong, apologize apologize apologize and try to move on.  I think if people see actual remorse sooner than later, his chances of getting into a better school significantly increases.
Nah. He hit a woman and it was captured on film. He's radioactive at this point. His best bet might be to go to a junior college, play a couple of years there at a high level while keeping his nose clean, then try and get an offer from a Division I-A school afterwards.
Quote:Nah. He hit a woman and it was captured on film. He's radioactive at this point. His best bet might be to go to a junior college, play a couple of years there at a high level while keeping his nose clean, then try and get an offer from a Division I-A school afterwards.
 

I could see him ending up at a school like Jacksonville State or South Alabama.
Quote:I could see him ending up at a school like Jacksonville State or South Alabama.
 

 

That's probably most likely.  I could see the whole JUCO route though.

 

He really doesn't have much time before the fall semester starts.
Quote:I could see him ending up at a school like Jacksonville State or South Alabama.
Yeah, FCS is a definitely possibility. I think he'd be better off going the juco route, though.
Quote:Nah. He hit a woman and it was captured on film. He's radioactive at this point. His best bet might be to go to a junior college, play a couple of years there at a high level while keeping his nose clean, then try and get an offer from a Division I-A school afterwards.
 

Joe Mixon destroyed a girl's face and is still playing for a D1 school. He could probably get on at a smaller D1 school.
Quote:One of the most gratifying things I have seen in a long time happened this past sunday.  5-2 with one of the greatest individual performances I have seen in any sporting event the us women's national team won the world cup and an entire generation of great women players got the gold that they had been chasing for the better part of two decades.  arguably the best player on that team received the golden glove award for best goal tending performance through out the entire tournament and that was Hope Solo, one of my favorite athletes of any sport. 

 

One of the big debates before the start of the world cup was if she should be allowed to participate in the world cup.  Why you ask?  because in a nutshell one year ago she got drunk and basically beat up an entire side of her family.  one particular individual if im not mistaken was her nephew who is only a couple years younger than Deandre Johnson and stands about 6-4 300 pounds.  By all reports by the time it was over she was essentially slamming his head into the ground. 

 

Full disclosure, i'm a gator fan and loathe scarlet and gold like the plague.  I also ascribe to the concept of chivalry.  I think that men should always error on the side of caution and go out of their way to ensure the safety of ladies both young and old and should devlop thicker skin and patience in the face of conflict.  At the same time the idea that there are no circumstances under which you should ever hit a women is asinine.  Is it different?  yes.  Do I think there should be a greater burden?  yes and in this case we can have a common sense debate about if this instance met that criteria, but if you simply say well just because she's female he's in the wrong then I can't help you.  Also, as I stated above, if you think just because someone is a women that they can't catch you in a moment of vulnerability and cause you great physical harm then that's just stupid. 

 

When I watch the video this is what I see. 

 

1.) the young lady spoke to Deandre First. There Is no audio so that can't be fully verified but its plain to see that for whatever reason she was the one who became animated first and began chirping at Deandre. 

 

2.) You can plainly see that they young lady for whatever reason starts sliding slightly to the left further obstructing his ability to get to the bar and order his Shirley temple. 

 

3.) You can clearly see that as he tries to make his way to the bar she turns to confront him.  The moment she turns, her right fist is raised and clinched.  It's at this time that Deandre does the chivalrous thing and holds her arms down. 

 

4.) as he is holding her arms down she begins taunting him.  He chirps back. 

 

5.) then she attempts to knee him and then swing on him. 

 

At this point in my mind the kid already went through the ok, she's a drunk idiot I am a football player let's just try to control the chick don't hit a woman thing.  At this point its much less a hard and fast rule and how any man would respond is between him and the God he believes in. 

 

Would I have hit her?  probably not.  But then of course that's because if I was single and in college again i'd be thinking of other forms of corrective behavior for a feisty attractive blond but that's another story.  But can I sit here and call him a woman beater?  no.  He was aggressed upon and attacked.  How he responded is a matter of semantics not legality.  I'm sorry that this kid basically just lost his football career as it would have been. 

 

What really troubles me is the way it's being reported.  one site says that after a period of pushing and shoving the VICTIM tries to push him off her and he responds with a vicious punch.  They don't mention the fact that she threatened him with an open fist, tried to knee him and then swung with an open fist at him.  On the radio today you'd think that the debate was about how to respond to being called a racial slur than how to respond when being attacked.  I think that this movement to paint men in the wrong and completely abolish the idea that a man can at any time justly defend himself is a perversion of political correctness that is contributing to a culture that promotes women to behave as they did in the video.  Just ask Stephen A. Smith. 
 

You hit the nail on the head here. You won't get through to the "you NEVER hit a woman" crew, though. The people that don't believe women are capable of causing significant harm are as stubborn as they are ignorant. Would I ever hit a woman? Not unless my life or health was significantly threatened, but you're dang right I'm going to defend myself if that's the case.
His first instinct to stop her from hitting him was the right one but punching her back was stupid. He could have just walked away after she hit him and we probably wouldn't even be talking about this guy right now. 

Quote:You hit the nail on the head here. You won't get through to the "you NEVER hit a woman" crew, though. The people that don't believe women are capable of causing significant harm are as stubborn as they are ignorant. Would I ever hit a woman? Not unless my life or health was significantly threatened, but you're dang right I'm going to defend myself if that's the case.
And his life or health was in NO way threatened.   That is the point.  There was no reason for him to hit her, certainly not with the amount of force he used.


I wonder if the people defending this guy are the same idiots who think rape victims who happened to be wearing short skirts or revealing clothes "asked for it"?  
So women should be allowed going around punching men?? Its funny, I'm hearing more women defend Johnson then I am men. One of my friends (who is a woman) went as far as to say that this notion that a man can't hit a women in a circumstance like this is more of a downgrade to their gender then anything. It tells them that yes you have equality, but you're still a weaker species. Society is telling women that they have no control over their emotions, but we expect more from men.


I don't believe I would have responded in the same way Johnson did, but I'm not going to sit here and point a finger at anyone for practicing self defense. Who cares if she wouldn't have done as much damage as he would, no one wants to get punched in the face.
Quote:So women should be allowed going around punching men?? Its funny, I'm hearing more women defend Johnson then I am men. One of my friends (who is a woman) went as far as to say that this notion that a man can't hit a women in a circumstance like this is more of a downgrade to their gender then anything. It tells them that yes you have equality, but you're still a weaker species. Society is telling women that they have no control over their emotions, but we expect more from men.


I don't believe I would have responded in the same way Johnson did, but I'm not going to sit here and point a finger at anyone for practicing self defense. Who cares if she wouldn't have done as much damage as he would, no one wants to get punched in the face.
 

A woman's punch just doesn't hurt. At all.
Quote:So women should be allowed going around punching men?? Its funny, I'm hearing more women defend Johnson then I am men. One of my friends (who is a woman) went as far as to say that this notion that a man can't hit a women in a circumstance like this is more of a downgrade to their gender then anything. It tells them that yes you have equality, but you're still a weaker species. Society is telling women that they have no control over their emotions, but we expect more from men.


I don't believe I would have responded in the same way Johnson did, but I'm not going to sit here and point a finger at anyone for practicing self defense. Who cares if she wouldn't have done as much damage as he would, no one wants to get punched in the face.
 

I'm pretty sure not one person here said it's ok for women to go around punching men.
Quote:I'm pretty sure not one person here said it's ok for women to go around punching men.
There's a point im trying to make and apparently it's escaped you. I know no one said its ok, but with a lot of the comments here it's as if women COULD do that and men should just sit and take it.
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