Time to save Lawrence both physically and psychologically!

What's the point in playing him if he's not progressing?



He's regressing because of the coaching, scheme, gameplan and lack of talent around him. 
He's being thrown to the wolves.

Throwing Beathard to the wolves won't be any different.
Might save Trevor from further injury, but... it won't alter the season or W/L column. 

This staff has ruined any chance of that.

What the [BLEEP] are you doing with the quote tool. 

I’ll give it to you, you managed to make a thread that rivals the stupidity of some of our other resident pot stirrers.

Grats on that. Quoting local media was a nice touch but fact remains. This is a dumb [BLEEP] idea no matter how you want to justify it

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Lawrence: throws a pass that hits his TE on the left side of his chest as he's moving to the right. Receiver is looking at it the whole time and gets two hands on it, but doesn't make the catch. He's also draped by a defender the whole time. What a [BLEEP] job by Lawrence, pass should have been 8 inches to the receiver's right. Terrible accuracy.

Stafford: throws a pass to his receiver that the receiver needs to stop for and contort his body while reaching to his left to catch. Receiver makes the catch plus some extra yards. No Jaguars defender near him at the point of catch. What a great throw by Stafford! Excellent accuracy!

It’s ridiculous. It’s almost as if these trolls are rooting for Trevor to fail

It’s getting hard to not see it that way.

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_4bp8bBNVw

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Ramsey [BLEEP] [BLEEP]

https://twitter.com/jordandelugo/status/...80482?s=20

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It’s ridiculous. It’s almost as if these trolls are rooting for Trevor to fail

It’s getting hard to not see it that way.

Yeah agreed. We know Trevor can do it. Let’s support him.

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Ramsey [BLEEP] [BLEEP]

https://twitter.com/jordandelugo/status/...80482?s=20

Ramsey unfortunately is just a jerk. What a dirty tackle, trying to hurt our future.

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It’s getting hard to not see it that way.

Yeah agreed. We know Trevor can do it. Let’s support him.

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Ramsey [BLEEP] [BLEEP]

https://twitter.com/jordandelugo/status/...80482?s=20

Ramsey unfortunately is just a jerk. What a dirty tackle, trying to hurt our future.

When we show up in his house with an unworthy team with whom he has deep resentment, we’re going to get abused. Ramsey is a professional [BLEEP] hole, be prepared to be humiliated if you can’t outgun him. We showed up woefully unarmed while exhibiting our inadequacy and he fed on it. I don’t like it and it’s not right, but that’s the real world. The only recourse is to play him hard with a team which feels good about itself. Unfortunately, that ain’t us right now.

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I got to thinking the other day, one of the position coaches that definitely needs an upgrade is QB Coach. Schottenheimer just isn't developing Trevor Lawrence like he should. With that said, I have a candidate in mind. I don't even know if this candidate would be interested in coaching, but he is extremely knowledgeable and seems like he has the kind of temperament to do a good job. What about Tony Romo? It amazes me that when he is calling a game, he seems to know almost every play that is coming. He has a knack for reading defenses and he has an engaging personality. If he could pass that knowledge on to Trevor, it would be a huge step in his development. Like I said I have no clue if Romo is even interested in coaching, especially since he has a really cozy job calling games, but I believe he has the type of makeup to be a very good NFL coach.

I'm pretty sure Romo is making more money than any head coach in the league, let alone position coaches.  Maybe he would do it just for fun?

Yeah. He's making out like a bandit with his CBS deal. Probably one of the top contracts right now broadcasting wise. I was thinking the same thing with Peyton Manning but he's another probably getting paid big money to fool around on MNF for laughs every week.

It's a shame. We all know those guys could excel at coaching the position. Only hope is that Khan cleans house soon, owns up to his error with this blundering of a hire and gets this team a legit headcoach.

At this point I would welcome any poaching combination of an OC/Director of Scouting from New England, Buffalo, Baltimore, Kansas City, Dallas & San Francisco.

At this point with this staff and ownership I think Trevor Lawrence is destined to end up like Alex Smith and Matt Ryan instead of Andrew Luck [minus the injuries, of course] and Peyton Manning.

Just a shame Khan cannot get this [BLEEP] right.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I...um...never mind...

Denny Thompson said this morning that Lawrence is regressing

Gerard implied that Lawrence is losing confidence

After reading his comments about JRob, I am confident in TLaw's role as a leader on the field and in the locker room.

He is holding the staff accountable for the crap product we have on the field. He is shouldering a lot of the criticism, whether it's his fault or not. Meyer has lost the locker room. Already.

If TLaw told the owner "Him or me", which would Shad keep?

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More important than Law's confidence is the rest of the team's.  If they have started to believe he's a bust instead of agreeing he's wonderful and they all suck, then his road back is even further.  If CJ starts and the results are no different then it is settled.  If CJ does well then Lawrence has a model to follow.  Time to make the switch.

....I thought we just needed to pass more to develop TLaw?
now it's that he needs to see someone else throw?

I don't see any reason to believe that the team (players) have lost any confidence in TLaw. You don't see guys giving up on plays, getting into arguments on the sideline, any of that. Contrast that to ARob vocally complaining about Bortles' throws (IIRC in camp), and it's night and day to the present situation.

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https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...57569?s=20

It's amazing how much better Lawrence is than Urban Meyer at saying the right thing and putting the team first.

They’re saying the exact same thing on the radio right now.

One is a leader, the other is a egomaniac.

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Makes you wonder how in the heck urbs won at Florida and OS.
Is college and NFL that much different??

abso-frickin-lutely.

One system allows you to stack a roster and dominate by depth and mismatches when others can't keep up. In the shield, there are fewer mismatches or the gap in talent is significantly less.

In college, you have one or two 'Bamas on your schedule if you are a title-contending team. In the NFL, at least half your schedule is 'Bama.

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I got to thinking the other day, one of the position coaches that definitely needs an upgrade is QB Coach. Schottenheimer just isn't developing Trevor Lawrence like he should. With that said, I have a candidate in mind. I don't even know if this candidate would be interested in coaching, but he is extremely knowledgeable and seems like he has the kind of temperament to do a good job. What about Tony Romo? It amazes me that when he is calling a game, he seems to know almost every play that is coming. He has a knack for reading defenses and he has an engaging personality. If he could pass that knowledge on to Trevor, it would be a huge step in his development. Like I said I have no clue if Romo is even interested in coaching, especially since he has a really cozy job calling games, but I believe he has the type of makeup to be a very good NFL coach.

the man never shuts up, though, trevor would never get from film room to the practice field.

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One note on criticizing the QB coach, is that unless you're there for practice/meetings your don't know if it's a lack of proper teaching or proper learning.  If you look at someone like Matt Leinart/Brady Quinn type of QB, no matter how skilled the QB coach is, they won't be able to "fix" that player in the long run. The best they can do is design a system that covers that players lack of skill (field vision, anticipation, etc.) and boil the offense down to a one-read scheme.

Not saying that's where Lawrence is, just saying it's not always as easy as getting a new/great QB coach.

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One note on criticizing the QB coach, is that unless you're there for practice/meetings your don't know if it's a lack of proper teaching or proper learning.  If you look at someone like Matt Leinart/Brady Quinn type of QB, no matter how skilled the QB coach is, they won't be able to "fix" that player in the long run. The best they can do is design a system that covers that players lack of skill (field vision, anticipation, etc.) and boil the offense down to a one-read scheme.

Not saying that's where Lawrence is, just saying it's not always as easy as getting a new/great QB coach.

Lawrence is miles better than those two. We just have bad offensive coaches and terrible players at WR and on the O-Line.

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One note on criticizing the QB coach, is that unless you're there for practice/meetings your don't know if it's a lack of proper teaching or proper learning.  If you look at someone like Matt Leinart/Brady Quinn type of QB, no matter how skilled the QB coach is, they won't be able to "fix" that player in the long run. The best they can do is design a system that covers that players lack of skill (field vision, anticipation, etc.) and boil the offense down to a one-read scheme.

Not saying that's where Lawrence is, just saying it's not always as easy as getting a new/great QB coach.

I actually kind of disagree with this to an extent.

The situation a QB goes to is far more important than their actual skillset. Is Mac Jones 9-4 as a starter if he goes to the Bears? Highly doubtful.

Then you add in elite coaching. Brees would be good but would he be elite without Payton? Mahomes is a HOF QB but is he as good without Reid?

There is no way to tell obviously but I think if these QBs end up on different teams, their career paths would look drastically different.

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Great thread bro, keep em coming.

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if anyone rembers who was the one here  all offseason saying takeing trevor with first pick would be a mistake, it was me. Rember?    you watch,and see Mac jones wil be in a super bowl before jags have a winning season with trevor.

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snowwolf titans owner in madden.

note titans owner means im undeafted againest them. 

if anyone rembers who was the one here  all offseason saying takeing trevor with first pick would be a mistake, it was me. Rember?    you watch,and see Mac jones wil be in a super bowl before jags have a winning season with trevor.

Why don't you email Roger Goodell and ask for a refund.

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It's really sad how Urban Meyer made a bad team even worse.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Never have I seen someone so happy to see a first overall pick struggle on their own team.

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Never have I seen someone so happy to see a first overall pick struggle on their own team.

Careful he’s a defensive little [BLEEP] too. 


Been on a roll lately.

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