https://twitter.com/demetrius82/status/1...915L-t18Xg

Glad we got Gotsis back

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https://twitter.com/demetrius82/status/1...915L-t18Xg

Glad we got Gotsis back

I always felt like he was underrated.

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Glad we got Gotsis back

I always felt like he was underrated.

If they let him play, he’ll have the production of Key, who’s overrated.

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"I am only an average man, but by George, I work harder at it than the average man." - Teddy Roosevelt

Gotsis reminds me a lot of Shatley the past few years where he's such a luxury to have as depth yet it feels like every season he's a free agent and I'm holding my breath to see if the Jags can snag for another year or two for cheap. Happy to have Gotsis back again.

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"The season's not over... we still have a bunch of games to lose..." - TemporaryName

 


"The middle of the field is like Narnia to us, we don't believe it really exists" - Marvsin


 

I always felt like he was underrated.

If they let him play, he’ll have the production of Key, who’s overrated.

He plays a different position.

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I like the versatility that Gotsis offers. Very strong at the POA and can play 3 and 5 techniques. Also a mature vet that provides solid depth.

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Respect the game.  Play with a sense of urgency. 


1.)  Take care of the ball.  Win the turnover battle.

2.)  It's all about 3rd down.  Win on 3rd down to win the game.

3.) Playmakers make plays.  The only reason that you put your uniform on is to make plays. In order to EARN your paycheck, you must make plays.  

Learn from the great collapse of 2023.  

So we’re really putting it on the backs of our 2023 draft class to put us over the top eh? What the heck are we doing to improve our pass rush or protect Tlaw?

The cap is getting tight my friend.

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So we’re really putting it on the backs of our 2023 draft class to put us over the top eh? What the heck are we doing to improve our pass rush or protect Tlaw?

And Ridley, the players being in year 2 of the system.

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So we’re really putting it on the backs of our 2023 draft class to put us over the top eh? What the heck are we doing to improve our pass rush or protect Tlaw?

And Ridley, the players being in year 2 of the system.

Ayep, it appears that way. We had 20 free agents and with the signing of Tre and Gotsis we have secured the services (if needed) of 12 of them. This leaves: (Not counting Griffin)

Jones Jr
Smoot (probably too soon in recovery to tell)
Manhertz
Arnold
Peters
Henderson

We lost Taylor and Key. So by my count 5 big contributors to the 2022 team. Between last year's rookies stepping up and our 9 draft picks I can see it being reasonable to find the replacement for that productivity. (if not an increase) This is why I was skeptical of the Jags investing much of the cap in free agency this year.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

And Ridley, the players being in year 2 of the system.

Ayep, it appears that way. We had 20 free agents and with the signing of Tre and Gotsis we have secured the services (if needed) of 12 of them. This leaves: (Not counting Griffin)

Jones Jr
Smoot (probably too soon in recovery to tell)
Manhertz
Arnold
Peters
Henderson

We lost Taylor and Key. So by my count 5 big contributors to the 2022 team. Between last year's rookies stepping up and our 9 draft picks I can see it being reasonable to find the replacement for that productivity. (if not an increase) This is why I was skeptical of the Jags investing much of the cap in free agency this year.

Manhertz already signed with another team.

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Ayep, it appears that way. We had 20 free agents and with the signing of Tre and Gotsis we have secured the services (if needed) of 12 of them. This leaves: (Not counting Griffin)

Jones Jr
Smoot (probably too soon in recovery to tell)
Manhertz
Arnold
Peters
Henderson

We lost Taylor and Key. So by my count 5 big contributors to the 2022 team. Between last year's rookies stepping up and our 9 draft picks I can see it being reasonable to find the replacement for that productivity. (if not an increase) This is why I was skeptical of the Jags investing much of the cap in free agency this year.

Manhertz already signed with another team.

Sorry missed one...

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

And Ridley, the players being in year 2 of the system.

Ayep, it appears that way. We had 20 free agents and with the signing of Tre and Gotsis we have secured the services (if needed) of 12 of them. This leaves: (Not counting Griffin)

Jones Jr
Smoot (probably too soon in recovery to tell)
Manhertz
Arnold
Peters
Henderson

We lost Taylor and Key. So by my count 5 big contributors to the 2022 team. Between last year's rookies stepping up and our 9 draft picks I can see it being reasonable to find the replacement for that productivity. (if not an increase) This is why I was skeptical of the Jags investing much of the cap in free agency this year.

They’re going to sign someone else. They didn’t sign Key until March 30th last year. Expect more of that this year.

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Herndon is decent depth at nickel and it took the new staff a minute to figure that out - but they did in the end. 
Blame the coaches for not kicking Williams outside as soon as Griffin imploded, not the backup nickel they unwisely played outside. 

The funny part of your post is that Herndon played 9 games. 
SEVEN WINS - TWO LOSSES  - but you're blaming him for three?
OK

He had four bad games statistically out of the nine and only two of them were losses. 
 One was a blowout win for the Jags. None of them have the look of something you could pin on Herndon but the giants game, and it sure seems the defense's inability to stop Barkley and Daniel Jones on the ground played a larger role in the loss than Herndon did. 

 If you want to pin that on the 5th DB on the roster, go for it. If Griffin hadn't sucked so bad and the staff hadn't played Williams out of position, Herndon would never have been in that spot, but go ahead. 

In my mind, I just hope we bring in enough cheap competition in July that Herndon gets beat out for a spot on the 53.

He got guaranteed the 2.6 mil.  I think that means a lock for a 53.  I'd be shocked to see him get that contract amd not be put on the 53

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https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1...93856?s=20

I have know idea where you are coming up with your values for players.

$2.6 is peanuts for a guy who sees the field as much as he does.

And no. There aren't a bunch of quality payers with his experience that you can sign for less.

You live in a fantasy world.

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Excuse me lord stat keeper, sometimes I do get Herndon and Griffin mixed up, but both of them were responsible for some attrocious late game scores by the opposing team. Whether it was 2 or 3, I don't know and i'm not gonna bother myself to look through it now. But during the season all we heard was "DERRR IF OUR DEFENSE DIDNT BLOW A LAST MIN TD WE WOULDA WON!!" from you and others.. and most of the time it was off a long pass on the sideline against either Griffin or Herndon. 

Point is, theres a reason our D was dramatically improved when the front office finally did what most of us wanted them to do from the start and moved that bum inside and allowed Williams to play outside. Theres A LOT of fans who think Williams is a top tier outside CB on this forum and it's laughable, he's really NOT.. he's just so much better than the two bums he proceeded to replace that it felt that way.

Regardless, Herndon is a terrible player.. the kind of guy who comes in off the bench and the opposing offense knows where to go with the ball. Is he OK as a backup? Sure whatever but he's not someone I'd actively try to keep on the roster.

Also what do you mean 5th DB on the roster? When Griffin went down HE PLAYED AS THE #2 TO CAMPBELL. And he actively LOST games for us.

Shaq Griffin, somehow was just as bad or worse then Herndon giving up deep outside passes late in the 4th but regardless both of them were absolute trash when it was crunch time and not much better any other time.

LOL
That's a lot of words making very little sense. 

1. You're right - he was the 4th CB - not the 5th.  Changes none of my points. 
   
2. Why do you keep saying he lost games? Which games??  tell us? LOL
   
3. Your memories of those deep passes is sketchy at best - and me complaining about Herndon giving up passes down the sideline is strange at best. I can only recall seeing it twice that it got under my skin and I don't recall posting about it. I posted more about his struggle in the slot, even though he was actually better there. 
   
4. Griffin, sure, I've been talking about his poor play since middle of 2021. But that is not what we are talking about. In fact Griffin's failure is the main reason we even have to talk about Herndon. 
   
5. You're being an idiot about Williams too, but we'll just let that play itself out on the field. He played very well outside when they finally moved him. Haven't seen anyone but you use the term "top tier," but whatever. Makes as much sense as the rest of this word salad you're vomiting tonight. 
   

10:05. THE FACT THAT I LOOKED UP THE VIDEO OF TRES FIRST START OUTSIDE THIS PAST SEASON AFTER SHAQ WENT DOWN AND FOUND HIS FIRST GAME LOSING CHUNK PLAY GIVEN UP JUST MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE THE DUMB [BLEEP] YOU ARE. Like I said, not gonna go through the entire seasons footage just to prove myself, but just for an example of what  I mean, his very first start after Griffin went down he proceeded to give up the big easy play to allow the opposing team to come back and take the lead.

THERE ARE 10-15 PLAYS YOU CAN FIND THROUGHOUT THE SEASON OF HIM GETTING TOASTED ON A GO ROUTE which get swept under the rug a bit, because not ALL of them were the chunk plays that lead to the loss, but he does it in the 4th quarter like it's his job. 

And nothing I said is being an idiot about Williams, I am the original poster that lobbied for him to play outside because Shaq/Tre are liabilities, and he's not nearly on their level of suck.
Everything I said made perfect sense, you're just an ignorant clown who lacks any intelligent thought when it comes to football.

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Ayep, it appears that way. We had 20 free agents and with the signing of Tre and Gotsis we have secured the services (if needed) of 12 of them. This leaves: (Not counting Griffin)

Jones Jr
Smoot (probably too soon in recovery to tell)
Manhertz
Arnold
Peters
Henderson

We lost Taylor and Key. So by my count 5 big contributors to the 2022 team. Between last year's rookies stepping up and our 9 draft picks I can see it being reasonable to find the replacement for that productivity. (if not an increase) This is why I was skeptical of the Jags investing much of the cap in free agency this year.

Manhertz already signed with another team.

Woulda preferred to resign literally anyone on that list over Tre Herndon, i'm so sick of seeing him play in a jags uni. He's unproductive, and a liability.

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LOL
That's a lot of words making very little sense. 

1. You're right - he was the 4th CB - not the 5th.  Changes none of my points. 
   
2. Why do you keep saying he lost games? Which games??  tell us? LOL
   
3. Your memories of those deep passes is sketchy at best - and me complaining about Herndon giving up passes down the sideline is strange at best. I can only recall seeing it twice that it got under my skin and I don't recall posting about it. I posted more about his struggle in the slot, even though he was actually better there. 
   
4. Griffin, sure, I've been talking about his poor play since middle of 2021. But that is not what we are talking about. In fact Griffin's failure is the main reason we even have to talk about Herndon. 
   
5. You're being an idiot about Williams too, but we'll just let that play itself out on the field. He played very well outside when they finally moved him. Haven't seen anyone but you use the term "top tier," but whatever. Makes as much sense as the rest of this word salad you're vomiting tonight. 
   

10:05. THE FACT THAT I LOOKED UP THE VIDEO OF TRES FIRST START OUTSIDE THIS PAST SEASON AFTER SHAQ WENT DOWN AND FOUND HIS FIRST GAME LOSING CHUNK PLAY GIVEN UP JUST MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE THE DUMB [BLEEP] YOU ARE. Like I said, not gonna go through the entire seasons footage just to prove myself, but just for an example of what  I mean, his very first start after Griffin went down he proceeded to give up the big easy play to allow the opposing team to come back and take the lead.

THERE ARE 10-15 PLAYS YOU CAN FIND THROUGHOUT THE SEASON OF HIM GETTING TOASTED ON A GO ROUTE which get swept under the rug a bit, because not ALL of them were the chunk plays that lead to the loss, but he does it in the 4th quarter like it's his job. 

And nothing I said is being an idiot about Williams, I am the original poster that lobbied for him to play outside because Shaq/Tre are liabilities, and he's not nearly on their level of suck.
Everything I said made perfect sense, you're just an ignorant clown who lacks any intelligent thought when it comes to football.

LOL
OK

I think you've changed the point and moved the goalposts three times already, but have fun with that. 
I'm not gonna sit here and argue about whether a backup DB gave up passes or not.
(Hint: we all [BLEEP] knew that already, you moron)

Good luck claiming you were the "original" poster on where Williams should play, I remember several regulars posting doubts about his slot play the day he was signed and you were not one of them. 

If you think it's time to take some victory lap on this herpherndonsuckderp narrative, go for it pal. 
The only debate on the guy is if he sucks bad enough to get a measly one year deal - or if he sucks bad enough to be allowed to walk entirely.  I don't see much meat to chew on there. 

BTW - you claimed repeatedly that he lost us 3 games. Which games, [BLEEP]? Third time I've asked with no answer.

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Not sure if anyone posted this yet, but Gotsis is apparently re-signing with the good guys

https://nfltraderumors.co/nfl-transactio...rday-3-18/

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Manhertz already signed with another team.

Woulda preferred to resign literally anyone on that list over Tre Herndon, i'm so sick of seeing him play in a jags uni. He's unproductive, and a liability.

Last Friday night they all met and decided to make someone sick the next week. I am glad it wasn't me. I do believe beer was involved.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

So we’re really putting it on the backs of our 2023 draft class to put us over the top eh? What the heck are we doing to improve our pass rush or protect Tlaw?

And Ridley, the players being in year 2 of the system.

This. Travon Walker needs to be the one to have a massive year two. Allen and Walker is ride or die for us.

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Not sure if anyone posted this yet, but Gotsis is apparently re-signing with the good guys

https://nfltraderumors.co/nfl-transactio...rday-3-18/

I think it was posted in another thread.  I like Gotsis.  I think he's underrated.

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