My response was not "but Trump."
The posts I listed are there and you haven't read them, clearly.
A "but Trump" post would be if you were talking about something bad another politician did, and I said, "but Trump did that too." And I do make those posts.
This is different.  You're saying "All these people lied about Trump" and I'm saying "no they didn't."

I have read every single post in this thread.  You are saying if they didn’t know they believed what they stated then they were not lying.  You are talking about certain low level individuals, I am countering the powers that be that orchestrated the charade knew it was a lie.  You counter but Russia did attempt to interfere with the election.  Yes they in all likelihood did just like every election since the communists took power but did Trump collude with them?  Zero proof in fact just the opposite yet you continue to push the same narrative.  Let’s play a different game Mike, was the Hunter Laptop story real or a Russian misinformation campaign like the FBI claimed?

Show me where I pushed that narrative after the Mueller report came out.
As for Hunter's laptop, the chain of custody is murky at best, and there is no proof Joe Biden benefitted from or even knew about Hunter's activities.

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I have read every single post in this thread.  You are saying if they didn’t know they believed what they stated then they were not lying.  You are talking about certain low level individuals, I am countering the powers that be that orchestrated the charade knew it was a lie.  You counter but Russia did attempt to interfere with the election.  Yes they in all likelihood did just like every election since the communists took power but did Trump collude with them?  Zero proof in fact just the opposite yet you continue to push the same narrative.  Let’s play a different game Mike, was the Hunter Laptop story real or a Russian misinformation campaign like the FBI claimed?

Show me where I pushed that narrative after the Mueller report came out.
As for Hunter's laptop, the chain of custody is murky at best, and there is no proof Joe Biden benefitted from or even knew about Hunter's activities.

LOL!  You’re shameless.

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

He doesn't just have words, he has the very BEST words.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn283OjPb1g

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Show me where I pushed that narrative after the Mueller report came out.
As for Hunter's laptop, the chain of custody is murky at best, and there is no proof Joe Biden benefitted from or even knew about Hunter's activities.

LOL!  You’re shameless.

No shame in telling the truth. 
Did I lie? I might be ashamed if I did.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Dear God. This woman is an elected leader of our country.

https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1659212...67975?s=20

https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/...58308?s=20

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https://twitter.com/dbongino/status/1659...Z-22A&s=19

Gotta say, I completely agree with him on this.. They do hate us, primarily the ones who vote or have voted for Trump. These are the nastiest people in the world and I wish more people would open their eyes to this.

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Dear God. This woman is an elected leader of our country.

https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1659212...67975?s=20

https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/...58308?s=20

There are over 200 democrats in the House. You can count on at least one of them to be bad enough to make Matt Gaetz look good, lol.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Dear God. This woman is an elected leader of our country.

https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1659212...67975?s=20

https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/...58308?s=20

There are over 200 democrats in the House. You can count on at least one of them to be bad enough to make Matt Gaetz look good, lol.

We can certainly count on you to defend every one of them!

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

There are over 200 democrats in the House. You can count on at least one of them to be bad enough to make Matt Gaetz look good, lol.

We can certainly count on you to defend every one of them!

Not this one.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

We can certainly count on you to defend every one of them!

Not this one.

Dude, you literally just used that person to post a backhanded slap at a Republican. Your heart is showing again.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Not this one.

Dude, you literally just used that person to post a backhanded slap at a Republican. Your heart is showing again.

The Republican put her down, and I agreed with him.  But yes, in general, I dislike Gaetz because he is a nepo baby and Trump syncophant.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Here's an interesting point of view.  A strong indictment of and rebellion against extremists who have taken over the gay rights movement.  

https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/th...exuals-cfd

"If gay men and lesbians want to return to liberal politics, to protect gay children, and to win back the sane center, we are going to have to disown and distance ourselves from this nihilist extremism."

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Here's an interesting point of view.  A strong indictment of and rebellion against extremists who have taken over the gay rights movement.  

https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/th...exuals-cfd

"If gay men and lesbians want to return to liberal politics, to protect gay children, and to win back the sane center, we are going to have to disown and distance ourselves from this nihilist extremism."

"We're not like those deviants!"

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Here's an interesting point of view.  A strong indictment of and rebellion against extremists who have taken over the gay rights movement.  

https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/th...exuals-cfd

"If gay men and lesbians want to return to liberal politics, to protect gay children, and to win back the sane center, we are going to have to disown and distance ourselves from this nihilist extremism."

"We're not like those deviants!"

There is a difference between the G&L and the rest of the alphabet. I may not get why men want to be with men and women want to be with women but they're - they meaning the every day people like we are - not so different than the rest of us. They just want to live, love and do life. We all understand that.

The rest of them are a hot mess of mental, emotional and physical issues that defies anything we and the G&L community can fathom. Sadly the G&L have been hijacked by the BTQIAs much as the democratic party has been hijacked by the leftist progressives and are being dragged (no pun intended) into their [BLEEP] storm of stupidity.

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That was a fascinating read. I'm glad the gay community sees the trans crazies for what they are with regards to children. Those who think they're not after your children should read the entire article. This part tells you their mindset.

In their world, there is no solid nature, and no defining line between childhood and maturity. Children should be trusted to make decisions we usually restrict to adults. Queering everything, as Foucault showed, means breaking down any and all prohibitions. It does not surprise me that a postmodern movement that began by saying that children can legitimately consent to sex with adults would eventually argue they can legitimately consent to having their bodies permanently altered before they even hit puberty.

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"We're not like those deviants!"

There is a difference between the G&L and the rest of the alphabet. I may not get why men want to be with men and women want to be with women but they're - they meaning the every day people like we are - not so different than the rest of us. They just want to live, love and do life. We all understand that.

The rest of them are a hot mess of mental, emotional and physical issues that defies anything we and the G&L community can fathom. Sadly the G&L have been hijacked by the BTQIAs much as the democratic party has been hijacked by the leftist progressives and are being dragged (no pun intended) into their [BLEEP] storm of stupidity.

30 years ago people said the same thing about homosexuals that we're saying about the rest of the soup today. All of this is nothing more than pushing the next boundary in hedonism. Once these perversions are accepted then they'll just move to the next level of degeneracy. Rinse, repeat.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

There is a difference between the G&L and the rest of the alphabet. I may not get why men want to be with men and women want to be with women but they're - they meaning the every day people like we are - not so different than the rest of us. They just want to live, love and do life. We all understand that.

The rest of them are a hot mess of mental, emotional and physical issues that defies anything we and the G&L community can fathom. Sadly the G&L have been hijacked by the BTQIAs much as the democratic party has been hijacked by the leftist progressives and are being dragged (no pun intended) into their [BLEEP] storm of stupidity.

30 years ago people said the same thing about homosexuals that we're saying about the rest of the soup today. All of this is nothing more than pushing the next boundary in hedonism. Once these perversions are accepted then they'll just move to the next level of degeneracy. Rinse, repeat.

Which is fine. Adults should be free to lead whatever lifestyle they want. Where the alphabet movement has changed so radically in the last couple of years is the push to include children in their cause. They even coin terms to make it seem benevolent and righteous, such as "gender affirming care". How warm and fuzzy. And if you disagree with it, you're a monster. 

So, what's the next step? If children are given the ability to make decisions for permanent body and life altering alterations based solely on the impulses of prepubescent brains, then shouldn't they be able to make the decision to engage in sex with adults? The G&L movement has been hijacked by fetishists and pedophiles. As long as the left continues in incorporate and defend their movement for political power, there is no limit to their depravity.

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30 years ago people said the same thing about homosexuals that we're saying about the rest of the soup today. All of this is nothing more than pushing the next boundary in hedonism. Once these perversions are accepted then they'll just move to the next level of degeneracy. Rinse, repeat.

Which is fine. Adults should be free to lead whatever lifestyle they want. Where the alphabet movement has changed so radically in the last couple of years is the push to include children in their cause. They even coin terms to make it seem benevolent and righteous, such as "gender affirming care". How warm and fuzzy. And if you disagree with it, you're a monster. 

So, what's the next step? If children are given the ability to make decisions for permanent body and life altering alterations based solely on the impulses of prepubescent brains, then shouldn't they be able to make the decision to engage in sex with adults? The G&L movement has been hijacked by fetishists and pedophiles. As long as the left continues in incorporate and defend their movement for political power, there is no limit to their depravity.

I think there's a tendency among some on the left to immediately endorse the latest "civil rights" movement, without really thinking about it.  They want to be in the vanguard of progressivism and not be left behind.  They see the heroes of the 1960s civil rights movement, Martin Luther King, John Lewis, et al, and they want to be like them.  So they attach themselves to whatever "civil rights" movement comes along.  Move to the left, move to the left, move to the left.  Don't get left behind.

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Which is fine. Adults should be free to lead whatever lifestyle they want. Where the alphabet movement has changed so radically in the last couple of years is the push to include children in their cause. They even coin terms to make it seem benevolent and righteous, such as "gender affirming care". How warm and fuzzy. And if you disagree with it, you're a monster. 

So, what's the next step? If children are given the ability to make decisions for permanent body and life altering alterations based solely on the impulses of prepubescent brains, then shouldn't they be able to make the decision to engage in sex with adults? The G&L movement has been hijacked by fetishists and pedophiles. As long as the left continues in incorporate and defend their movement for political power, there is no limit to their depravity.

I think there's a tendency among some on the left to immediately endorse the latest "civil rights" movement, without really thinking about it.  They want to be in the vanguard of progressivism and not be left behind.  They see the heroes of the 1960s civil rights movement, Martin Luther King, John Lewis, et al, and they want to be like them.  So they attach themselves to whatever "civil rights" movement comes along.  Move to the left, move to the left, move to the left.  Don't get left behind.

That's exactly right.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Which is fine. Adults should be free to lead whatever lifestyle they want. Where the alphabet movement has changed so radically in the last couple of years is the push to include children in their cause. They even coin terms to make it seem benevolent and righteous, such as "gender affirming care". How warm and fuzzy. And if you disagree with it, you're a monster. 

So, what's the next step? If children are given the ability to make decisions for permanent body and life altering alterations based solely on the impulses of prepubescent brains, then shouldn't they be able to make the decision to engage in sex with adults? The G&L movement has been hijacked by fetishists and pedophiles. As long as the left continues in incorporate and defend their movement for political power, there is no limit to their depravity.

I think there's a tendency among some on the left to immediately endorse the latest "civil rights" movement, without really thinking about it.  They want to be in the vanguard of progressivism and not be left behind.  They see the heroes of the 1960s civil rights movement, Martin Luther King, John Lewis, et al, and they want to be like them.  So they attach themselves to whatever "civil rights" movement comes along.  Move to the left, move to the left, move to the left.  Don't get left behind.

To wit:
https://youtu.be/tzsmICBRKOk

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