That guy is the Bucs worst offensive line man if I’m not mistaken.

Yet he's rated 72.2 in year two of his career while our starters are rated in the low to mid 60's.

Look at Mayfield's production compared to Lawrence's. 72.2 is average. If we had an average line? We're probably at 10 wins now.

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I wish 

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/luke-fortner/42028

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My only gripe with Baalke has been about positional value questions in his drafting.
I've pointed out 4 or 5 picks in he past two drafts (prior to the 5th round) that didn't make sense for our needs or the positional value among those needs.

here are tow local beat writers saying the same thing

https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...40667?s=20

Meh, the positions he drafted isn't the problem.  It's the players!  If these dudes were studs it would be good to great picks but he's drafting [BLEEP].  My biggest problem with him is drafting guys that suck.  The Lions took a RB in the first, off the ball LB mid first,  and a TE very high in the 2nd, both higher then where we took our RB and TE and they were great picks.  Question is out on Campbell but if he turns into a stub it will be a great pick as well.  

I know you think positional value is a mystery of the universe like the Bermuda Triangle - but is actually a real thing, LOL. 

It is the postional value.
The horrible askance treatment of positional value would somewhat negated if he picked guys that made impact in year one or two at the lesser positions he focused on - but he still royally screwed up the positional value.

#2 TEs and #3 RBs should never be taking precedent when your intent is too start Ben Bartch and Luke Fortner.

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Yet he's rated 72.2 in year two of his career while our starters are rated in the low to mid 60's.

Look at Mayfield's production compared to Lawrence's. 72.2 is average. If we had an average line? We're probably at 10 wins now.

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https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/luke-fortner/42028

That’s horrible. Why not put Shatley in there? I don’t know if it could be much worst.

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Meh, the positions he drafted isn't the problem.  It's the players!  If these dudes were studs it would be good to great picks but he's drafting [BLEEP].  My biggest problem with him is drafting guys that suck.  The Lions took a RB in the first, off the ball LB mid first,  and a TE very high in the 2nd, both higher then where we took our RB and TE and they were great picks.  Question is out on Campbell but if he turns into a stub it will be a great pick as well.  

I know you think positional value is a mystery of the universe like the Bermuda Triangle - but is actually a real thing, LOL. 

It is the postional value.
The horrible askance treatment of positional value would somewhat negated if he picked guys that made impact in year one or two at the lesser positions he focused on - but he still royally screwed up the positional value.

#2 TEs and #3 RBs should never be taking precedent when your intent is too start Ben Bartch and Luke Fortner.

Oh I believe in positional value but I also believe in getting the best football players.  You let the draft come to you.  If you let the draft fall to you positional value meets need more often than not. 

  Torrence was a first round prospect that fell in our lap last year.  It happens every year studs fall right in our lap and we pick players that suck.  Most teams have needs at most spots. 

   If you draft a TE in the 2nd he should be a number 1 TE.  We should have 2 number 1 TEs right now on this offense.  Even if we didn't have Engram and it was a huge need I'm not taking a TE in the 2nd if he's not a true starting TE.  If you're taking a TE in the 2nd he should be your future at the TE position.  We should have a Gronk and Hernandez situation right now at TE.  

  A lot of RBs taken in the 3rd are number 1 backs.  I actually wanted Brian Robinson last year but Baalke's board is trash. We should have a beast RB behind Etienne right now if we were drafting a RB that was the BPA when we picked in the 3rd.  If he's coming aways with studs at those positions we would be sitting much better but these guys are 3rd stringers.  Their board sucks [BLEEP].

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I wonder if pederson is picking some of these draft picks or is it mostly Balkie? Oh yes, they said it’s a collaboration.

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I know you think positional value is a mystery of the universe like the Bermuda Triangle - but is actually a real thing, LOL. 

It is the postional value.
The horrible askance treatment of positional value would somewhat negated if he picked guys that made impact in year one or two at the lesser positions he focused on - but he still royally screwed up the positional value.

#2 TEs and #3 RBs should never be taking precedent when your intent is too start Ben Bartch and Luke Fortner.

Oh I believe in positional value but I also believe in getting the best football players.  You let the draft come to you.  If you let the draft fall to you positional value meets need more often than not. 

  Torrence was a first round prospect that fell in our lap last year.  It happens every year studs fall right in our lap and we pick players that suck.  Most teams have needs at most spots. 

   If you draft a TE in the 2nd he should be a number 1 TE.  We should have 2 number 1 TEs right now on this offense.  Even if we didn't have Engram and it was a huge need I'm not taking a TE in the 2nd if he's not a true starting TE.  If you're taking a TE in the 2nd he should be your future at the TE position.  We should have a Gronk and Hernandez situation right now at TE.  

  A lot of RBs taken in the 3rd are number 1 backs.  I actually wanted Brian Robinson last year but Baalke's board is trash. We should have a beast RB behind Etienne right now if we were drafting a RB that was the BPA when we picked in the 3rd.  If he's coming aways with studs at those positions we would be sitting much better but these guys are 3rd stringers.  Their board sucks [BLEEP].

You're making my point for me. LOL

Taking a #2 TE over a starting guard (especially when your guards suck out loud) is a major [BLEEP] up in positional value. 

Funny thing is, you went on and on and on about how critical it was for Doug to have his two TEs catching passes because it was central to his scheme. (which is bull [BLEEP] - he did that for a couple years because he had one receiver worth a damn and whiffed on other receiver acquisitions) 

Go ahead and tell me what your predictions were for Brenton Strange ? 

Didn't you say he and Engram would combine for like 1500 yards and 10 TDs or something? LOL 

But now it's a bad pick, right?

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Oh I believe in positional value but I also believe in getting the best football players.  You let the draft come to you.  If you let the draft fall to you positional value meets need more often than not. 

  Torrence was a first round prospect that fell in our lap last year.  It happens every year studs fall right in our lap and we pick players that suck.  Most teams have needs at most spots. 

   If you draft a TE in the 2nd he should be a number 1 TE.  We should have 2 number 1 TEs right now on this offense.  Even if we didn't have Engram and it was a huge need I'm not taking a TE in the 2nd if he's not a true starting TE.  If you're taking a TE in the 2nd he should be your future at the TE position.  We should have a Gronk and Hernandez situation right now at TE.  

  A lot of RBs taken in the 3rd are number 1 backs.  I actually wanted Brian Robinson last year but Baalke's board is trash. We should have a beast RB behind Etienne right now if we were drafting a RB that was the BPA when we picked in the 3rd.  If he's coming aways with studs at those positions we would be sitting much better but these guys are 3rd stringers.  Their board sucks [BLEEP].

You're making my point for me. LOL

Taking a #2 TE over a starting guard (especially when your guards suck out loud) is a major [BLEEP] up in positional value. 

Funny thing is, you went on and on and on about how critical it was for Doug to have his two TEs catching passes because it was central to his scheme. (which is bull [BLEEP] - he did that for a couple years because he had one receiver worth a damn and whiffed on other receiver acquisitions) 

Go ahead and tell me what your predictions were for Brenton Strange ? 

Didn't you say he and Engram would combine for like 1500 yards and 10 TDs or something? LOL 

But now it's a bad pick, right?

If we had 2 good guards and we were set at the guard position I'm taking the starting guard over a 2nd string TE even if we didn't have Engram.  I'm taking the best player and who I have higher on my board. I absolutely think Doug is at his best with 2 stud TEs and why Doug wanted Strange.  With that said Doug isnt calling the plays anymore so it really don't matter anymore.  Doug's play calling was very similar to what Reid does with his offense, I don't see that with Press.  I hated the Strange pick more than any pick this past year, it won't be hard to find I hated we passed on Torrence.  I don't ever remember predicting anything from any position but we should close to have 1500 yrds and 10 TDs if we are taking a TE in the 2nd to pair with Engram.  If I thought Strange was capable of those numbers I would of loved the pick

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Oh I believe in positional value but I also believe in getting the best football players.  You let the draft come to you.  If you let the draft fall to you positional value meets need more often than not. 

  Torrence was a first round prospect that fell in our lap last year.  It happens every year studs fall right in our lap and we pick players that suck.  Most teams have needs at most spots. 

   If you draft a TE in the 2nd he should be a number 1 TE.  We should have 2 number 1 TEs right now on this offense.  Even if we didn't have Engram and it was a huge need I'm not taking a TE in the 2nd if he's not a true starting TE.  If you're taking a TE in the 2nd he should be your future at the TE position.  We should have a Gronk and Hernandez situation right now at TE.  

  A lot of RBs taken in the 3rd are number 1 backs.  I actually wanted Brian Robinson last year but Baalke's board is trash. We should have a beast RB behind Etienne right now if we were drafting a RB that was the BPA when we picked in the 3rd.  If he's coming aways with studs at those positions we would be sitting much better but these guys are 3rd stringers.  Their board sucks [BLEEP].

You're making my point for me. LOL

Taking a #2 TE over a starting guard (especially when your guards suck out loud) is a major [BLEEP] up in positional value. 

Funny thing is, you went on and on and on about how critical it was for Doug to have his two TEs catching passes because it was central to his scheme. (which is bull [BLEEP] - he did that for a couple years because he had one receiver worth a damn and whiffed on other receiver acquisitions) 

Go ahead and tell me what your predictions were for Brenton Strange ? 

Didn't you say he and Engram would combine for like 1500 yards and 10 TDs or something? LOL 

But now it's a bad pick, right?

Here , I will help you while you are throwing stuff on the wall again hoping it will stick.  Look at the first page,


https://www.duvalpride.com/showthread.ph...ht=Strange

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I wonder if pederson is picking some of these draft picks or is it mostly Balkie? Oh yes, they said it’s a collaboration.

It has to be a collaboration to some extent. I keep saying that now to be fair to Baalke. The coaching staff and scouting department have to work together, look at the roster position-by-position and then come to conclusions which I would imagine involve a "Yay" or "Nay" or "Pass" or "Fail" when creating a free agency wish list with targets and a draft board with prospects. 

So, I don't think we can put it ALL on Baalke. This coaching staff had to look at the roster and sign off on the following:

1. Offensive Lineman
2. Defensive Lineman
3. Wide Receiver Depth

Those have been the three glaring issues right now on this football team. They did very little, or, had very little success in adding anything impactful or tangible there to give us much hope this year or going into next year in my opinion.

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Honestly, I think anyone that truly looked at this OL and thought "yeah, these guys look good" needs to be fired.

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Meh, the positions he drafted isn't the problem.  It's the players!  If these dudes were studs it would be good to great picks but he's drafting [BLEEP].  My biggest problem with him is drafting guys that suck.  The Lions took a RB in the first, off the ball LB mid first,  and a TE very high in the 2nd, both higher then where we took our RB and TE and they were great picks.  Question is out on Campbell but if he turns into a stub it will be a great pick as well.  

I know you think positional value is a mystery of the universe like the Bermuda Triangle - but is actually a real thing, LOL. 

It is the postional value.
The horrible askance treatment of positional value would somewhat negated if he picked guys that made impact in year one or two at the lesser positions he focused on - but he still royally screwed up the positional value.

#2 TEs and #3 RBs should never be taking precedent when your intent is too start Ben Bartch and Luke Fortner.

sigworthy.

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I wonder if pederson is picking some of these draft picks or is it mostly Balkie? Oh yes, they said it’s a collaboration.

It has to be a collaboration to some extent. I keep saying that now to be fair to Baalke. The coaching staff and scouting department have to work together, look at the roster position-by-position and then come to conclusions which I would imagine involve a "Yay" or "Nay" or "Pass" or "Fail" when creating a free agency wish list with targets and a draft board with prospects. 

So, I don't think we can put it ALL on Baalke. This coaching staff had to look at the roster and sign off on the following:

1. Offensive Lineman
2. Defensive Lineman
3. Wide Receiver Depth

Those have been the three glaring issues right now on this football team. They did very little, or, had very little success in adding anything impactful or tangible there to give us much hope this year or going into next year in my opinion.

Yeah, I think it was a collaboration with Doug and all the coaches.  I also think Baalke really let these Doug get who he wanted at the top of the draft for all the flack he took last year and if the players don't pan out, he can look at Khan and say see, that's not who i wanted.  Especially with the Strange pick, that was Doug 100% imo.  If it was just Baalke picking and he was taking a TE i think he would of taken Washington just by his draft history, just a guess though.  Do we really want Doug getting the guys he wants?  That's not his strong suit imo.  Jordan was the best basketball player ever and he took Kwame Brown over Pau Gasol.  We need to remember he was the coach when the Eagles took Reagor over Jefferson and I'm sure he had say in that pick.

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I know you think positional value is a mystery of the universe like the Bermuda Triangle - but is actually a real thing, LOL. 

It is the postional value.
The horrible askance treatment of positional value would somewhat negated if he picked guys that made impact in year one or two at the lesser positions he focused on - but he still royally screwed up the positional value.

#2 TEs and #3 RBs should never be taking precedent when your intent is too start Ben Bartch and Luke Fortner.

sigworthy.

Even if you have All Pros at C and G you shouldn't take a 2nd or 3rd string TE in the 2nd and a 3rd string RB in the 3rd.  That should be followed behind that sentence.   With that said, I think our staff felt Strange is a number 1 TE and Bigsby was a number 1 RB, that's why they took them.  It just shows you the quality of their Bigboard.

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You're making my point for me. LOL

Taking a #2 TE over a starting guard (especially when your guards suck out loud) is a major [BLEEP] up in positional value. 

Funny thing is, you went on and on and on about how critical it was for Doug to have his two TEs catching passes because it was central to his scheme. (which is bull [BLEEP] - he did that for a couple years because he had one receiver worth a damn and whiffed on other receiver acquisitions) 

Go ahead and tell me what your predictions were for Brenton Strange ? 

Didn't you say he and Engram would combine for like 1500 yards and 10 TDs or something? LOL 

But now it's a bad pick, right?

Here , I will help you while you are throwing stuff on the wall again hoping it will stick.  Look at the first page,


https://www.duvalpride.com/showthread.ph...ht=Strange

That was a sound post.

But then you somehow went here:

https://www.duvalpride.com/showthread.ph...pid1558674

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Here , I will help you while you are throwing stuff on the wall again hoping it will stick.  Look at the first page,


https://www.duvalpride.com/showthread.ph...ht=Strange

That was a sound post.

But then you somehow went here:

https://www.duvalpride.com/showthread.ph...pid1558674

That was the plan and that's why they drafted him in the 2nd.  Thats what they tried to do earlier in the season until everytime he was out there he was missing blocks, not getting open, dropping balls.  getting no push in the run game and Doug finally realized how bad he was.  Regardless how i feel about a pick, once he's a Jag I will always pull for the player and hope he succeeds.  I'd love for him to have a great game this weekend and a strong close to the season, it doesn't mean I liked the pick.  I'm not going to sit there and bash any player before one steps on the field, I'll give them the benefit of doubt once he puts on a Jag jersey.  I hated the Chaisson pick but have pulled for the guy ever since we drafted him hoping he turns a corner.
Hated the Byran pick even though he was a Gator, becuase he wasnt even that good in college and we drafted him in the first when Goedert was sitting right there for the taking.  These things are common for Jags GMs

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It has to be a collaboration to some extent. I keep saying that now to be fair to Baalke. The coaching staff and scouting department have to work together, look at the roster position-by-position and then come to conclusions which I would imagine involve a "Yay" or "Nay" or "Pass" or "Fail" when creating a free agency wish list with targets and a draft board with prospects. 

So, I don't think we can put it ALL on Baalke. This coaching staff had to look at the roster and sign off on the following:

1. Offensive Lineman
2. Defensive Lineman
3. Wide Receiver Depth

Those have been the three glaring issues right now on this football team. They did very little, or, had very little success in adding anything impactful or tangible there to give us much hope this year or going into next year in my opinion.

Yeah, I think it was a collaboration with Doug and all the coaches.  I also think Baalke really let these Doug get who he wanted at the top of the draft for all the flack he took last year and if the players don't pan out, he can look at Khan and say see, that's not who i wanted.  Especially with the Strange pick, that was Doug 100% imo.  If it was just Baalke picking and he was taking a TE i think he would of taken Washington just by his draft history, just a guess though.  Do we really want Doug getting the guys he wants?  That's not his strong suit imo.  Jordan was the best basketball player ever and he took Kwame Brown over Pau Gasol.  We need to remember he was the coach when the Eagles took Reagor over Jefferson and I'm sure he had say in that pick.

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sigworthy.

Even if you have All Pros at C and G you shouldn't take a 2nd or 3rd string TE in the 2nd and a 3rd string RB in the 3rd.  That should be followed behind that sentence.   With that said, I think our staff felt Strange is a number 1 TE and Bigsby was a number 1 RB, that's why they took them.  It just shows you the quality of their Bigboard.

Absolutely. That's why I can't completely fault Baalke. These coaches get a say and have a hand in this as well. Whether it's a mess or a sensation. Everybody plays their part. 

Strange absolutely felt like a Pederson pick, while, Bigsby and Miller felt like Baalke picks. I still think Baalke has some encouraging aspects to his profile. I don't mind the free agency investments he's made over the last two years. 

I don't see Khan cutting him loose in the off season. I really think a strong push needs to be made though for an added layer of oversight and final say between the two of them. Baalke can handle his part. Pederson can handle his. BUT, a VP with a better background should get a final say in things in my opinion. 

I would specifically start poaching from teams like San Francisco, Baltimore, Detroit & Los Angeles (Rams) for somebody with a good eye for talent with the balls to make the best decisions for this football team. Both, in the long term and short term.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Yeah, I think it was a collaboration with Doug and all the coaches.  I also think Baalke really let these Doug get who he wanted at the top of the draft for all the flack he took last year and if the players don't pan out, he can look at Khan and say see, that's not who i wanted.  Especially with the Strange pick, that was Doug 100% imo.  If it was just Baalke picking and he was taking a TE i think he would of taken Washington just by his draft history, just a guess though.  Do we really want Doug getting the guys he wants?  That's not his strong suit imo.  Jordan was the best basketball player ever and he took Kwame Brown over Pau Gasol.  We need to remember he was the coach when the Eagles took Reagor over Jefferson and I'm sure he had say in that pick.

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Even if you have All Pros at C and G you shouldn't take a 2nd or 3rd string TE in the 2nd and a 3rd string RB in the 3rd.  That should be followed behind that sentence.   With that said, I think our staff felt Strange is a number 1 TE and Bigsby was a number 1 RB, that's why they took them.  It just shows you the quality of their Bigboard.

Absolutely. That's why I can't completely fault Baalke. These coaches get a say and have a hand in this as well. Whether it's a mess or a sensation. Everybody plays their part. 

Strange absolutely felt like a Pederson pick, while, Bigsby and Miller felt like Baalke picks. I still think Baalke has some encouraging aspects to his profile. I don't mind the free agency investments he's made over the last two years. 

I don't see Khan cutting him loose in the off season. I really think a strong push needs to be made though for an added layer of oversight and final say between the two of them. Baalke can handle his part. Pederson can handle his. BUT, a VP with a better background should get a final say in things in my opinion. 

I would specifically start poaching from teams like San Francisco, Baltimore, Detroit & Los Angeles (Rams) for somebody with a good eye for talent with the balls to make the best decisions for this football team. Both, in the long term and short term.

I'd bet anything on Strange being the guy Doug wanted just because of the presser right after the pick on draft night.  The reporter was asking Baalke why he went with Starnge and why they like him so much, he kinda laughed with a smirk and said I'll let Doug take this one.  Doug went on to rave about the guy.   It was a dead give away

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We made a mistake last year when we didn't bring in Spielman. I think if we lose out Baalke gets fired. If we make the playoffs he stays. Khan is in the war room and in there when they put the board together so he knows who which guy really wanted. I think that will be another think that will determine if he stays. If say Baalke wanted Torrence and Doug wanted Strange ? that would be a good look on Baalke. I seriously doubt it but it's just hard to say what goes on behind closed doors. I think Shadd will listen to Tony as well a d get input from him if Baalke should stay

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Honestly, I think anyone that truly looked at this OL and thought "yeah, these guys look good" needs to be fired.

Before the Day2 draft, after I just dropped some acid and did 3 lines of coke, I recall thinking it would really be cool if we drafted a TE and a RB in rounds 2 & 3 to backup Engram and ETN.  My only disappointment during my high was that we didn't draft a QB in round 4 to back up Trevor but the fact that we selected another LB to go with all of our other LBs was quite satisfying from my Day2 perspective.

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That was a sound post.

But then you somehow went here:

https://www.duvalpride.com/showthread.ph...pid1558674

That was the plan and that's why they drafted him in the 2nd.  Thats what they tried to do earlier in the season until everytime he was out there he was missing blocks, not getting open, dropping balls.  getting no push in the run game and Doug finally realized how bad he was.  Regardless how i feel about a pick, once he's a Jag I will always pull for the player and hope he succeeds.  I'd love for him to have a great game this weekend and a strong close to the season, it doesn't mean I liked the pick.  I'm not going to sit there and bash any player before one steps on the field, I'll give them the benefit of doubt once he puts on a Jag jersey.  I hated the Chaisson pick but have pulled for the guy ever since we drafted him hoping he turns a corner.
Hated the Byran pick even though he was a Gator, becuase he wasnt even that good in college and we drafted him in the first when Goedert was sitting right there for the taking.  These things are common for Jags GMs

Nah - I don't think that was the plan. 
They simply needed a Y TE who could at least be considered a receiving threat by defenses so Engram didn't get locked in the radar of opponents in 12 or 13 looks.  Of course - they picked the wrong one and too early. But giving Strange 6 targets a game was never the intention.

You kept harping on Doug's offense being all about two TEs.
That is a myth. 
Multiple receiving TEs are no more important in Doug's offense than in 14 other schemes being run around the league. 
He just happened to get really good TE production for 2 years in Philly because he only had one good receiver. 
How ppl can't put that together is astounding to me. He merely targeted the best guys he had - which happened to be 1 WR and 2 TE. 
He's stated in multiple pressers that his offense isn't about one position group and he tailors his playbook every season to the guys he has. 
If his system was all about two TEs as you kept oddly insisting - Engram would not have 10 times more targets than any other TE on the roster.

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That was the plan and that's why they drafted him in the 2nd.  Thats what they tried to do earlier in the season until everytime he was out there he was missing blocks, not getting open, dropping balls.  getting no push in the run game and Doug finally realized how bad he was.  Regardless how i feel about a pick, once he's a Jag I will always pull for the player and hope he succeeds.  I'd love for him to have a great game this weekend and a strong close to the season, it doesn't mean I liked the pick.  I'm not going to sit there and bash any player before one steps on the field, I'll give them the benefit of doubt once he puts on a Jag jersey.  I hated the Chaisson pick but have pulled for the guy ever since we drafted him hoping he turns a corner.
Hated the Byran pick even though he was a Gator, becuase he wasnt even that good in college and we drafted him in the first when Goedert was sitting right there for the taking.  These things are common for Jags GMs

Nah - I don't think that was the plan. 
They simply needed a Y TE who could at least be considered a receiving threat by defenses so Engram didn't get locked in the radar of opponents in 12 or 13 looks.  Of course - they picked the wrong one and too early. But giving Strange 6 targets a game was never the intention.

You kept harping on Doug's offense being all about two TEs.
That is a myth. 
Multiple receiving TEs are no more important in Doug's offense than in 14 other schemes being run around the league. 
He just happened to get really good TE production for 2 years in Philly because he only had one good receiver. 
How ppl can't put that together is astounding to me. He merely targeted the best guys he had - which happened to be 1 WR and 2 TE. 
He's stated in multiple pressers that his offense isn't about one position group and he tailors his playbook every season to the guys he has. 
If his system was all about two TEs as you kept oddly insisting - Engram would not have 10 times more targets than any other TE on the roster.

He absolutely wants to run more 2 TE sets he just doesn't have the talent to do it and why he drafted a TE in the 2nd. You don't take a player in the 2nd to play a couple times a game.   I never said his offense is about 1 position group, you are just throwing [BLEEP] on the wall again hoping it sticks as usual.  I have said he uses the TE position better and likes to use it more than most coaches like like Reid, he just doesn't have the talent to do it.  Engram has 10 times more targets than any other TE becuase he has nothing behind him.  If we had another stud TE the numbers would be much closer.  It's crazy i have to explain this to you over and over lol

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Doug had much bigger plans for Strange this year he just hasn't been good enough and it hasn't turned out the way he planned

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