(11-07-2023, 09:25 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote:

(11-06-2023, 02:05 PM)mikesez Wrote: As you said, there are lots of reasons for withholding judgement.  
If you assume that every Palestinian and everyone who cares about Palestinians is bent on genocide of all Jews, then ethically you have no choice but to imprison or kill all of them.  Then ethically there's no difference between you and them.  
No.  You have to assume, even if most Palestinians want to kill all Jews, that many do not.  If you say "kill em all and let God sort em out" then you're the bad guy, not them.

The people in America with no ill will towards the Jews and/or the Palestinians (or getting paid to) aren't in the streets causing trouble.  

The people who are causing mayhem are the problem and they should be dealt with accordingly.

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(11-06-2023, 12:43 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: He's not obtuse. Like most moderates he's morally confused. He wants so bad to be seen as the reasonable man that he cannot conceive that both sides aren't bad or both sides aren't good. His confusions leads to his inability to call evil for what it is.

It's a nicer word than the one I actually want to use.

I agree whoever defaced the monument is a problem and that person or those people should go to jail for a little while.  
But why are you saying anything beyond that? Don't people have a right to protest? Don't they have a right to disagree about government policy and foreign wars? If we think they are racist or anti-Semitic, we can boycott them, but we can't imprison them.  Right?

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