(05-02-2024, 12:44 PM)Caldrac Wrote:

(05-01-2024, 10:43 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: I gave it a B-.  I liked the first pick and that's the most important pick.  I would have been happy with Thomas at #17, but we got three picks by trading down.  Next year, we'll be happy to have that extra 3rd and 4th round pick.

We drafted at all of our needs with the exception of IOL.  However, I'm not sure they correctly prioritized those needs.  For example, I thought cornerback was our biggest need and we waited until a third round comp pick.  I wanted a defensive end no later than the 4th round and we waited until the 7th round, etc.

Unlike some, I have no problem with drafting a kicker.  I thought we should and would.  In regards to the running back / kick returner, I don't particularly like the player, but I didn't have a problem with using a late round pick on that position.  The new kickoff rules are expected to encourage the use of two returners.  I also think most people are forgetting that keeping 4 running backs on your 53 man roster is the norm.  We began last year with 4 on the roster.  It was only after the injuries occurred and the Jaguars were desperate for available roster spots that they decided to release Hasty mid-season.  For a healthy opening day roster, I would expect them to go back to 4.  Prior to the draft, the Jaguars only had scrubs to fill that fourth spot.

In regard to value, I have serious questions.  I realize that mock drafts and player evaluations aren't always right.  However, they aren't always wrong either.  It's an indication.  If they are right, we reached on virtually every pick outside of the first and last round.  Let's hope they are wrong.  I could see this draft going in a lot of different directions.  I do consider many of these to be "boom or bust" type of picks.  If we hit on them, it could potentially be a very good draft.

This is fair. I went B+ because they moved down six or seven spots and picked-up a future 3rd and 4th. That's considered the 9th most lopsided trade in recent history. I think that can't be overlooked. 

In regards to the offensive line. Sure, would have liked one more lineman added, but, all things considered. Here's how I see it. 

They signed Morse, which addresses the weakest position and player on the team in Fortner. 
They brought back Cleveland, after they traded for him last year. When he's healthy, he's a damn good guard. 
They drafted Harrison last year at RT, who played well with a bum shoulder. 
They're bringing back Cooper Hodges from last year. 
They drafted Javon Foster as the next swing tackle. 
They kept Cam Robinson for LT.
They still have Walker Little who should honestly get put through the ringer this year at LT/LG/RG with his final year left.
They signed UDFA Steven Jones at RG who is an absolute whopper and played pretty good for the Oregon Ducks. 

There's some hope here for this offensive line. There really is. I expect them to be on better track this summer but we'll see. Had the maybe added Limmer out of Arkansas at C or Mahogany who kept slipping out of Boston College, I probably would have bumped their grade up to an A.

What is the source on this?  I've heard it said multiple times, but they must be using some bizzarro-world point chart.  When I pull up a points chart off the internet (such as DraftTek), it shows the Jaguars actually losing from a points perspective.  Below are the calculations:

The #17 spot is worth 950 points while the #23 spot is worth 760.  This means the Jaguars lost 190 points by moving down.

The Jaguars get the Viking's 3rd and 4th rounder next year.  However, it is commonly accepted that future picks are worth 1 round lower than a pick in the current draft.  As such, those picks should be treated as 4th and 5th rounders.  The Vikings' draft position next year is unknown.  If we assume that they are at the same spot next year as this year (#10 overall), those picks are worth 74 and 33.5 points respectively.  Add the 24.6 points for the #167 overall in 2024 draft, and you only come to 132.1 points.  We lost 57.9 points.

Even if we assume the Vikings are drafting #1 overall next year, we still would lose the trade by 31.4 points.

I would have to assume that the "points chart" showing that we won doesn't take into consideration that future picks are worth less than current picks.  If I do the calculations assuming all three picks were this year, then yes, it's true that the Jaguars would then "win" the trade.  However, even then, it's by a margin of 128.6 points or a very late 3rd rounder.  That's nice, but I would still have a hard time believing that could be the 9th most lopsided trade in NFL history.  Again, I would like to see the source.  I think someone is doing some creative math.

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