The title says it all.

QB

1.  Andrew Luck-Colts:  Shoulder is a major concern
2.  Marcus Mariota-Tacks-Progressing nicely until he broke his leg vs. Jacksonville.  Has new weapons.
3.  Blake Bortles-Jaguars-Can rebound...but will he?
4.  Tom Savage-Texans-Short term  guy until Watson is ready

RB
1.  DeMarco Murray-enjoyed bounce back season in "exotic smashmouth" offense
2.  Lamar Miller-Houston-just a guy
3.  Leonard Fournette-by the end of this season, will be at the top of this list
4.  Frank Gore-probably in his final season

WR

1.  Deandre Hopkins-Houston
2.  T.Y. Hilton-Indy:  undersized but has produced in a big way
3.  Allen Robinson, Jaguars-Coming off a down season, but still capable of changing a game
4.  Eric Decker-Tacks-a nice target for Mariota and good complement to Davis
5.  Allen Hurns, Jaguars-Injury plagued season
6.  Donte Moncrief-Colts
7.  Will Fuller-Texans-has speed to burn
8.  Marqise Lee, Jaguars-finally put together a healthy season.
9.  Corey Davis-Has drawn lofty comparisons.  May be at the very top of this list before long.
10.  Rishard Matthews, Tacks
11.  Phillip Dorsett, Colts
TE

1. Delanie Walker-Tacks
2.  C.J. Fiedorowicz-Texans
3.  Marcedes Lewis, Jags-May be end of the road for long time vet
4.  Eric Swoope, Colts.

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The title says it all.

QB

1.  Andrew Luck-Colts:  Shoulder is a major concern
2.  Marcus Mariota-Tacks-Progressing nicely until he broke his leg vs. Jacksonville.  Has new weapons.
3.  Blake Bortles-Jaguars-Can rebound...but will he?
4.  Tom Savage-Texans-Short term  guy until Watson is ready

RB
1.  DeMarco Murray-enjoyed bounce back season in "exotic smashmouth" ooffense
2.  Lamar Miller-Houston-just a guy
3.  Leonard Fournette-by the end of this season, will be at the top of this list
4.  Frank Gore-probably in his final season

WR

1.  Deandre Hopkins-Houston
2.  T.Y. Hilton-Indy:  undersized but has produced in a big way
3.  Allen Robinson, Jaguars-Coming off a down season, but still capable of changing a game
4.  Eric Decker-Tacks-a nice target for Mariota and good complement to Davis
5.  Allen Hurns, Jaguars-Injury plagued season
6.  Donte Moncrief-Colts
7.  Will Fuller-Texans-has speed to burn
8.  Marqise Lee, Jaguars-finally put together a healthy season.
9.  Corey Davis-Has drawn lofty comparisons.  May be at the very top of this list before long.
10.  Rishard Matthews, Tacks
11.  Phillip Dorsett, Colts
TE

1. Delanie Walker-Tacks
2.  C.J. Fiedorowicz-Texans
3.  Marcedes Lewis, Jags-May be end of the road for long time vet
4.  Eric Swoope, Colts.

The crazy thing about this list is with the possible exception of Andrew Luck all of these guys are so unproven that it's hard to make an argument for anyone above anyone except for Walker in the TEs.

I might put Hilton over Hopkins and Hurns over Decker, and I don't think it's crazy to rank Fournette over Miller even though he's never been on an NFL field. If Fournette isn't the best back in the division this season then Caldwell made a really stupid selection.

The division is right there for the Jaguars to take if Marrone can get them to focus.

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The title says it all.

QB

1.  Andrew Luck-Colts:  Shoulder is a major concern
2.  Marcus Mariota-Tacks-Progressing nicely until he broke his leg vs. Jacksonville.  Has new weapons.
3.  Blake Bortles-Jaguars-Can rebound...but will he?
4.  Tom Savage-Texans-Short term  guy until Watson is ready

RB
1.  DeMarco Murray-enjoyed bounce back season in "exotic smashmouth" ooffense
2.  Lamar Miller-Houston-just a guy
3.  Leonard Fournette-by the end of this season, will be at the top of this list
4.  Frank Gore-probably in his final season

WR

1.  Deandre Hopkins-Houston
2.  T.Y. Hilton-Indy:  undersized but has produced in a big way
3.  Allen Robinson, Jaguars-Coming off a down season, but still capable of changing a game
4.  Eric Decker-Tacks-a nice target for Mariota and good complement to Davis
5.  Allen Hurns, Jaguars-Injury plagued season
6.  Donte Moncrief-Colts
7.  Will Fuller-Texans-has speed to burn
8.  Marqise Lee, Jaguars-finally put together a healthy season.
9.  Corey Davis-Has drawn lofty comparisons.  May be at the very top of this list before long.
10.  Rishard Matthews, Tacks
11.  Phillip Dorsett, Colts
TE

1. Delanie Walker-Tacks
2.  C.J. Fiedorowicz-Texans
3.  Marcedes Lewis, Jags-May be end of the road for long time vet
4.  Eric Swoope, Colts.

The crazy thing about this list is with the possible exception of Andrew Luck all of these guys are so unproven that it's hard to make an argument for anyone above anyone except for Walker in the TEs.

I might put Hilton over Hopkins and Hurns over Decker, and I don't think it's crazy to rank Fournette over Miller even though he's never been on an NFL field. If Fournette isn't the best back in the division this season then Caldwell made a really stupid selection.

The division is right there for the Jaguars to take if Marrone can get them to focus.

You were right.  TE was really hard to compile. 

The Hopkins over Hilton order reflects, in part, my preference for bigger, more physical receivers.  Hopkins is no Andre Johnson, but he is plenty physical.

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At RB I'm saying...

1. Fournette
2. Murray
3. Gore
4. Miller

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'02

At RB I'm saying...

1. Fournette
2. Murray
3. Gore
4. Miller

The only reason I didn't list him higher is that he's a rookie. If he is what we think he is from a pure talent perspective, he will be the class of the division.

Why Gore over Miller?

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

At RB I'm saying...

1. Fournette
2. Murray
3. Gore
4. Miller

The only reason I didn't list him higher is that he's a rookie.  If he is what we think he is from a pure talent perspective, he will be the class of the division.

Why Gore over Miller?

Miller is probably just as good as Gore is right now, but Gore is a legend so I give him the edge. Consider that Gore has had 9 seasons going over 1000 yards including this past season, and only two of those were under 1100 yards. Miller only has two seasons over 1000 yards, and both were under 1100 yards.

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'02

Pretty solid assumptions.

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The title says it all.

QB

1.  Andrew Luck-Colts:  Shoulder is a major concern
2.  Marcus Mariota-Tacks-Progressing nicely until he broke his leg vs. Jacksonville.  Has new weapons.
3.  Blake Bortles-Jaguars-Can rebound...but will he?
4.  Tom Savage-Texans-Short term  guy until Watson is ready

RB
1.  DeMarco Murray-enjoyed bounce back season in "exotic smashmouth" ooffense
2.  Lamar Miller-Houston-just a guy
3.  Leonard Fournette-by the end of this season, will be at the top of this list
4.  Frank Gore-probably in his final season

WR

1.  Deandre Hopkins-Houston
2.  T.Y. Hilton-Indy:  undersized but has produced in a big way
3.  Allen Robinson, Jaguars-Coming off a down season, but still capable of changing a game
4.  Eric Decker-Tacks-a nice target for Mariota and good complement to Davis
5.  Allen Hurns, Jaguars-Injury plagued season
6.  Donte Moncrief-Colts
7.  Will Fuller-Texans-has speed to burn
8.  Marqise Lee, Jaguars-finally put together a healthy season.
9.  Corey Davis-Has drawn lofty comparisons.  May be at the very top of this list before long.
10.  Rishard Matthews, Tacks
11.  Phillip Dorsett, Colts
TE

1. Delanie Walker-Tacks
2.  C.J. Fiedorowicz-Texans
3.  Marcedes Lewis, Jags-May be end of the road for long time vet
4.  Eric Swoope, Colts.

The crazy thing about this list is with the possible exception of Andrew Luck all of these guys are so unproven that it's hard to make an argument for anyone above anyone except for Walker in the TEs.

I might put Hilton over Hopkins and Hurns over Decker, and I don't think it's crazy to rank Fournette over Miller even though he's never been on an NFL field. If Fournette isn't the best back in the division this season then Caldwell made a really stupid selection.

The division is right there for the Jaguars to take if Marrone can get them to focus.

and what if Fournette isn't bad? it's all of a sudden a Coughlin pick?

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The crazy thing about this list is with the possible exception of Andrew Luck all of these guys are so unproven that it's hard to make an argument for anyone above anyone except for Walker in the TEs.

I might put Hilton over Hopkins and Hurns over Decker, and I don't think it's crazy to rank Fournette over Miller even though he's never been on an NFL field. If Fournette isn't the best back in the division this season then Caldwell made a really stupid selection.

The division is right there for the Jaguars to take if Marrone can get them to focus.

and what if Fournette isn't bad? it's all of a sudden a Coughlin pick?

What?

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and what if Fournette isn't bad? it's all of a sudden a Coughlin pick?

What?

I'll try to explain it...

The previous post was saying that if 4net isn't great, Caldwell sucks. ...so this post is suggesting that if 4net is great, the previous poster would instead be saying that Coughlin... not Caldwell... made a great pick.

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'02

What?

I'll try to explain it...

The previous post was saying that if 4net isn't great, Caldwell sucks. ...so this post is suggesting that if 4net is great, the previous poster would instead be saying that Coughlin... not Caldwell... made a great pick.

I understood that much. What I don't understand is why someone would suggest I'm someone that would attempt to minimize Caldwell's accomplishments.

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I'll try to explain it...

The previous post was saying that if 4net isn't great, Caldwell sucks. ...so this post is suggesting that if 4net is great, the previous poster would instead be saying that Coughlin... not Caldwell... made a great pick.

I understood that much. What I don't understand is why someone would suggest I'm someone that would attempt to minimize Caldwell's accomplishments.

Because the majority of this board still has to put labels on who they believe picked who and they love to use it whenever it fits their opinion. 

"Oh I didn't like the pick from the beginning, he definitely must be a Caldwell pick."

"Man I love that pick, what a great pick. Coughlin really is putting this team together." etc etc etc

Not saying you said those things above, but that's what we've seen far too much and sadly will continue to see from people.

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QB:
1. Andrew Luck
2. Marcus Mariota
3. Blake Bortles
4. Tom Savage

RB:
1. DeMarco Murray
2. Leonard Fournette
3. Lamar Miller
4. Frank Gore

WR:
1. T.Y Hilton
2. DeAndre Hopkins
3. Allen Robinson
4. Marqise Lee
5. Allen Hurns
6. Eric Decker
7. Will Fuller
8. Corey Davis
9. Rishard Matthews
10. Phillip Doresett

TE:
1. Delanie Walker
2. C.J. Fiedorowicz
3. Marcedes Lewis
4. Eric Swoope

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

QB:
1. Andrew Luck
2. Marcus Mariota
3. Blake Bortles
4. Tom Savage

RB:
1. DeMarco Murray
2. Leonard Fournette
3. Lamar Miller
4. Frank Gore

WR:
1. T.Y Hilton
2. DeAndre Hopkins
3. Allen Robinson
4. Marqise Lee
5. Allen Hurns
6. Eric Decker
7. Will Fuller
8. Corey Davis
9. Rishard Matthews
10. Phillip Doresett

TE:
1. Delanie Walker
2. C.J. Fiedorowicz
3. Marcedes Lewis
4. Eric Swoope

Good list.  Mine would be nearly identical.  (I'd drop Decker to #9 due to age and coming off two surgeries in the offseason.)

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WR:
1. T.Y Hilton
2. DeAndre Hopkins
3. Allen Robinson
4. Marqise Lee
5. Allen Hurns
6. Eric Decker
7. Will Fuller
8. Corey Davis
9. Rishard Matthews
10. Phillip Doresett

So you are not a Moncrief fan?

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

I would put Murray and Henry as 1 and 2 for RB.

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WR:
1. T.Y Hilton
2. DeAndre Hopkins
3. Allen Robinson
4. Marqise Lee
5. Allen Hurns
6. Eric Decker
7. Will Fuller
8. Corey Davis
9. Rishard Matthews
10. Phillip Doresett

So you are not a Moncrief fan?

It's not that I am not a fan of his. I just feel that he's overall just outside the talent of the rest of the AFC South. I was tempted to stagger everyone down and drop Decker to where he'd squeeze in at the 10th spot. Because I like his (Moncrief) production in the red zone. 

But I think he'll end up getting lost a bit in the shuffle this year between Dorsett and Hilton. It was hard not to list Decker though. Even with the injuries and the age I still think he's capable of producing just as good as anybody on that offense. Especially with a great red zone QB in Mariota and with a run first / run heavy offense. 

I also expect big things this year out of Will Fuller with a QB like Watson unafraid to throw it up and Corey Davis playing opposite of Rishard Matthews.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."