So if Shad Khan had $1 Billion to spend on a stadium in Wembley. Why didn’t he put that money up toward a new stadium in Jacksonville?

More than likely because Jacksonville does not need a new stadium.

You might want to watch the State of the Franchise again.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

If Khan bought Wembley stadium to secure the London market for Jacksonville, how does that work if he isn't going to move the Jaguars there?

If it means that for any NFL game played in London he gets the proceeds, then why would any team agree to play in London if they would surrender their home team gates to a competitor?  If the teams that surrender their home game to London decided to play in Tottenham stadium instead, doesn't that defeat the purpose?

Is this a preemptive move in case another team kicks around the idea of moving to London?  Seems like the only team in dire need of a stadium at this stage is Buffalo.

Is he putting all of his sports investments into one big "pool," from which the Jaguars draw revenue?

Is this, as some have suggested, a type of leverage plan for a new stadium and Shipyards here?

I would venture to guess, that as the owner of the stadium, he would receive even more of the advertising,parking,concessions money and fee/rental use for other activities hosted at the stadium than you would get as opposed to a City/Municipal ownership would receive...There are many events held in Wembley that would bring a [BLEEP] pot full of money to the owner of the stadium...

I don't see this as a bad thing, to me it just looks like Mr Khan has found a way to make a ton of money in addition to the NFL and his other company...If I could own a NFL franchise and buy Wembley Stadium too I'd jump on it, and anyone here on this board would too...Why not make a few hundred million dollars in The United States, AND London too?

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So if Shad Khan had $1 Billion to spend on a stadium in Wembley. Why didn’t he put that money up toward a new stadium in Jacksonville?

More than likely because Jacksonville does not need a new stadium.

I would say when Mr Khan feels a new stadium is needed in Jax, he will help fund it, but I would also guess that any new stadium built in COJ will be owned by COJ and not privatized

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It's all about investments. It's how the rich get richer. Buy a hot commodity and expand it in order to make more revenue. It's what he did with the Jags. Turned a 600 mil investment into a 1.3 billion one. It's also a leverage move to have the city provide more financial assistance on his vision of the stadium and downtown. And that vision is amazing btw. I don't see us moving anywhere anytime soon. Now, in 5-10 years, if things don't change financially, it could be possible. But right now, he sees an opportunity to own a big landmark that the NFL is trying to take over and an area that is helping to keep the Jags in Jville. Just something to watch; nothing to worry about for now.

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Let's Get Em!!!! Go Jags!

Khan just put a dog park inside the stadium, and you guys want a brand new stadium? Cmon now!

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Khan just put a dog park inside the stadium, and you guys want a brand new stadium? Cmon now!

fast forward to 17:19.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Khan just put a dog park inside the stadium, and you guys want a brand new stadium? Cmon now!

fast forward to 17:19.

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Mark Lamping on Wembley: 'Jacksonville drives the Jaguars'

http://www.jaguars.com/news/article-Jagu...de2379dc4c


Jaguars President Mark Lamping on Owner Shad Khan's effort to purchase Wembley Stadium in London: 'Our behavior here in Jacksonville has been the exact opposite of what yo

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British news article says the Fulham team will NOT play there and speculates (a lot) on Jags moving there.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footbal...24286.html

Of course they would speculate. That sells papers and gets clicks. Not saying it wont happen, but the chances imo are slim to none.

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Is Mark Lamping being a conspiracy theorist when he describes an increasing Jaguar presence in London and the ongoing challenges of the Jacksonville market? Was Roger Goodell being a conspiracy theorist when he said in 2014 that the NFL wants a team in London within 5-10 years?

When billionaires want something to happen, it usually happens. Playing a Jaguar game in London every year now seems like the most natural thing in the world. It makes perfect business sense, and Mr. Lamping is happy to show you the charts. And despite the rather shocking news today, the Jaguars owning Wembley Stadium will soon seem like the most natural thing in the world - we are currently being bombarded with all the reasons it makes perfect business sense. And in a few years playing 2 games in London will seem like the most natural thing in the world - staying an extra week makes perfect business sense.

I am sure the fans will understand when the day comes when London Jaguars just makes perfect business sense.

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Really, really bad timing. Which isn't good business sense wise here locally in Jacksonville. Khan has finally produced a great product here after ten long years of obscurity. I believe in his commitment towards this city and team.

But the timing is just awful.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

If Khan bought Wembley stadium to secure the London market for Jacksonville, how does that work if he isn't going to move the Jaguars there?

If it means that for any NFL game played in London he gets the proceeds, then why would any team agree to play in London if they would surrender their home team gates to a competitor?  If the teams that surrender their home game to London decided to play in Tottenham stadium instead, doesn't that defeat the purpose?

Is this a preemptive move in case another team kicks around the idea of moving to London?  Seems like the only team in dire need of a stadium at this stage is Buffalo.

Is he putting all of his sports investments into one big "pool," from which the Jaguars draw revenue?

Is this, as some have suggested, a type of leverage plan for a new stadium and Shipyards here?

I would venture to guess, that as the owner of the stadium, he would receive even more of the advertising,parking,concessions money and fee/rental use for other activities hosted at the stadium than you would get as opposed to a City/Municipal ownership would receive...There are many events held in Wembley that would bring a [BLEEP] pot full of money to the owner of the stadium...

I don't see this as a bad thing, to me it just looks like Mr Khan has found a way to make a ton of money in addition to the NFL and his other company...If I could own a NFL franchise and buy Wembley Stadium too I'd jump on it, and anyone here on this board would too...Why not make a few hundred million dollars in The United States, AND London too?

It's not used. He isn't going to be making back the 1 billion quickly. Why would they sell it if it made tons of money? They would just take the yearly income, unless someone offers well over market value.

No owner is giving a home game up and then not getting the revenue and giving it to Khan. He will get some small %.

Unless the NFL is going to start playing a lot of games there or a Super Bowl, this makes 0 sense.

Khan could sell to another owner of a team moving, but would the other owners like him making a move like that?

More than 1 game will be played there soon, then more or a demand for a new stadium and shipyards. While not an immediate impact, the writing is on the wall and it's going to happen unless the city does what he wants.


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£800m is the rumoured figure to buy Wembley, what does this even mean for the Jags?

Oh crap, we have just lost all leverage on stadium issues.

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It can also be leveraged into getting more money from Jax to renovate The Bank.

At this point, we need to have a proposal to build a new stadium. I feel like we are on good terms with Khan now, but the city will have to put out if it wants to keep them that way.

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Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

This is definitely interesting. I wouldn't like it if they moved there, but I think I would stay a fan. It would be a much longer trip to see a game. Right now I'm less than an hour and a half away from the stadium in Jville. I'd probably also have to get Sunday ticket to watch them, plus I guess the games would be in the morning?

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Right now it doesn't make any sense to move the team based on the investments in the current stadium, but a new stadium will likely be needed in a few years. I'm pretty sure a few markets have built new stadiums twice since ours was put up.

I'll feel a lot more comfortable when they start breaking ground on the shipyards projects. Pouring half a billion dollars (or more) into improving the area around the stadium would be pretty stupid if you are planning on moving the team. Wouldn't the value of all that work drop exponentially without the Jags?

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Agreed on poor timing. 

But again...everyone freaking out needs to calm down. 

There are two reasons that Khan can break the lease: 

1. He’s lost money on the Jags three consecutive years. No NFL team and I mean no team is losing money. Even the Browns. 

2. Stadium is in disrepair and or not up to modern standards. Khan has went the complete opposite way. The stadium is in good shape and modern by every standard. Scoreboards, new seats, the pools, the club renovations, the new dog park, etc. You don’t do these things if you want to move. You pull a Davis or Kroenke and don’t spend money on improvements and sit back and wait. 

This move may stabilize the jags even further. Now khan keeps all the revenue from all nfl games, and yes the jags may play another game and two in London. But I prefer it to the more unattractive option which is losing the team altogether.

I don’t think he will move the Jaguars either.

But could he put the team up for sale?

(Again, don’t think he will, but just looking at the options)

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This is what Shad Khan has told the Fulham fans.

http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2018/april/...-statement

That letter is revealing. Khan is trying to keep London for us. Smart guy, I hope this makes teams shy away from trying to move there. I do get the impression if someone was trying to force their way into london he would pick moving the jags to london over staying with us and letting London go, but this message does sound like that isn't his goal to move right now.

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Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

Khan trading Wembley for the #1 pick confirmed

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Khan is about to royally screw whoever the mayor of Jax is in 5 years. He’s going to ask for a new stadium and for the shipyards project to be paid entirely by the city and if they balk...it’s on to London. He has unprecedented leverage.

Lol, I had the same thought, we lost all leverage.

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Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

It's no secret that Shad Khan is going to move the Jaguars. 

All of Kahn's lies about playing in London in order to economically develop Jacksonville were pure lard. The London slate of games is doing NOTHING more than promoting the economic development of London as a sports mecca. Anybody who lived a day in London - the armpit of Europe - during the London games knows that England is a dirty sock standing in the corner. Khan is just as stinky as that rancid sour vinegar the British shake onto their seafood and eel pie.

You're a mean one, Mr. Khan. You're just as smelly as a putrid disgusting double-decker sauerkraut and toadstool sandwich.

This is the funniest thing I’ve read on this forum for a while.

Was it meant to be a joke?

Yeah, sort of. The real joke is on us. 

The timing of this media bombshell suggests Khan is reminding Tom Coughlin who he wants drafted in the first round. If Tom doesn't give Khan that person, he'll pack up his team and move to London. If Khan is backed by Gene Frenette and the usual useful idiots like Frangie, etc. then you can be sure they have made THEIR pick and Coughlin had better comply.

We don't get umpteen first round BUSTOLAs without the local media's heavy involvement in depicting these lemons in a strange light.

Is this a joke?

https://youtu.be/EoPdVOMXX0w

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Is Mark Lamping being a conspiracy theorist when he describes an increasing Jaguar presence in London and the ongoing challenges of the Jacksonville market?  Was Roger Goodell being a conspiracy theorist when he said in 2014 that the NFL wants a team in London within 5-10 years?  

When billionaires want something to happen, it usually happens.  Playing a Jaguar game in London every year now seems like the most natural thing in the world.  It makes perfect business sense, and Mr. Lamping is happy to show you the charts.  And despite the rather shocking news today, the Jaguars owning Wembley Stadium will soon seem like the most natural thing in the world - we are currently being bombarded with all the reasons it makes perfect business sense.  And in a few years playing 2 games in London will seem like the most natural thing in the world - staying an extra week makes perfect business sense.

I am sure the fans will understand when the day comes when London Jaguars just makes perfect business sense.

Your right to an extent, but if J-Ville pony's up for a new stadium, the business case could change.

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Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.