Here's a take I haven't seen mentioned. I think by owning the stadium, he'll be able to recoup the revenue he makes by having a home game in London every year thereby being able to play an away game there instead and bringing the home game back to Jacksonville.

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I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you.

£800m is the rumoured figure to buy Wembley, what does this even mean for the Jags?

He's not doing this to move the Jaguars. He's doing this to put the NFL's collective balls into a vice grip when they schedule London games.

This

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Here's a take I haven't seen mentioned. I think by owning the stadium, he'll be able to recoup the revenue he makes by having a home game in London every year thereby being able to play an away game there instead and bringing the home game back to Jacksonville.

Maybe, but good luck convincing the NFL that playing in a stadium you own in a city you've spent 5 years building a fan base in is an "away" game.

Goodell made a comment to Trey Wingo on ESPN that caught my attention. He mentioned the Jaguars playing "one or two" games a year there.

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Here's a take I haven't seen mentioned. I think by owning the stadium, he'll be able to recoup the revenue he makes by having a home game in London every year thereby being able to play an away game there instead and bringing the home game back to Jacksonville.

Maybe, but good luck convincing the NFL that playing in a stadium you own in a city you've spent 5 years building a fan base in is an "away" game.

Goodell made a comment to Trey Wingo on ESPN that caught my attention. He mentioned the Jaguars playing "one or two" games a year there.

I can see two games a year there I don't like it but it's better then no games played here. And it does seem like they've built a pretty good core of "jaguars" fans there that was the point of this project wasn't it? Maybe they do two "home games" two "away games" and give the fans there 4 Jaguars games a year?

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I feel for you guys. I think that state of the franchise talk was just to cushion the blow when this news came out. He's building a practice facility over there as well? Come on folks. Why would they need that just to fly over for a game or two?

You have no clue what you are talking about. Just stop. And you've quoted the resident delusional conspiracy theorist BTW. 

Wembley is a revenue stream for the Jaguars that helps balance the budget -  making a small market team sustainable financially on a level equal to those teams with larger markets and greater revenue. 

Many other NFL owners are now looking at these "home games" in London and the easy revenue bump they provide and they are envious of the Jags tenure and position there. 
If the league were to cater to these owners and begin having more league-wide games there, Khan will now profit from every single contest - not only those featuring his own team. 
It also places him in a more powerful position among owners and with the league in general. 

Assuming that Khan bought the stadium because he wants to move the Jags is lazy and fearful. 

I have no reason not to believe Khan and Lamping when they say they have no intention of moving the team. They've made strides every year to do exactly the opposite of that and their actions and words are still in step with that. 

Khan is a billionaire and he buys things. Now he bought a stadium in London.  No big deal.

Well thats good. But the bottom line is, as many of you have stated, khan is a businessman. And the business of the jags in jax has lost money every year. If the london game makes so much money for the franchise, its foolish to think he won't expand on that practice. 
The nfl has increased the games in london these past few years. Now it is at least fair to say if a team does move to london, it will be the jags.

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You have no clue what you are talking about. Just stop. And you've quoted the resident delusional conspiracy theorist BTW. 

Wembley is a revenue stream for the Jaguars that helps balance the budget -  making a small market team sustainable financially on a level equal to those teams with larger markets and greater revenue. 

Many other NFL owners are now looking at these "home games" in London and the easy revenue bump they provide and they are envious of the Jags tenure and position there. 
If the league were to cater to these owners and begin having more league-wide games there, Khan will now profit from every single contest - not only those featuring his own team. 
It also places him in a more powerful position among owners and with the league in general. 

Assuming that Khan bought the stadium because he wants to move the Jags is lazy and fearful. 

I have no reason not to believe Khan and Lamping when they say they have no intention of moving the team. They've made strides every year to do exactly the opposite of that and their actions and words are still in step with that. 

Khan is a billionaire and he buys things. Now he bought a stadium in London.  No big deal.

Well thats good. But the bottom line is, as many of you have stated, khan is a businessman. And the business of the jags in jax has lost money every year. If the london game makes so much money for the franchise, its foolish to think he won't expand on that practice. 
The nfl has increased the games in london these past few years. Now it is at least fair to say if a team does move to london, it will be the jags.

Wow. You really don't know what the hell you are talking about, huh?  

Sorry.  Can't entertain your trolling anymore. You're clueless.

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Well thats good. But the bottom line is, as many of you have stated, khan is a businessman. And the business of the jags in jax has lost money every year. If the london game makes so much money for the franchise, its foolish to think he won't expand on that practice. 
The nfl has increased the games in london these past few years. Now it is at least fair to say if a team does move to london, it will be the jags.

Wow. You really don't know what the hell you are talking about, huh?  

Sorry.  Can't entertain your trolling anymore. You're clueless.

In other words, i make perfect sense and you have no rebuttal?
Really not trying to troll. I dont want to see the jags move to london either. Just speaking the obvious. If a coach buys a house in another city everyone assumes.. if an owner buys a stadium and builds a practice facility in another city well thats just to help us here in jax...

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Wow. You really don't know what the hell you are talking about, huh?  

Sorry.  Can't entertain your trolling anymore. You're clueless.

In other words, i make perfect sense and you have no rebuttal?
Really not trying to troll. I dont want to see the jags move to london either. Just speaking the obvious. If a coach buys a house in another city everyone assumes.. if an owner buys a stadium and builds a practice facility in another city well thats just to help us here in jax...

I italicized to try to help you out there, pal. 

Please explain to me how the Jags have been "losing money?"  That's what you posted to earn my disrespect.

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In other words, i make perfect sense and you have no rebuttal?
Really not trying to troll. I dont want to see the jags move to london either. Just speaking the obvious. If a coach buys a house in another city everyone assumes.. if an owner buys a stadium and builds a practice facility in another city well thats just to help us here in jax...

I italicized to try to help you out there, pal. 

Please explain to me how the Jags have been "losing money?"  That's what you posted to earn my disrespect.

Sorry i saw that on this forum. 3 years straight, losing money? Did i misread? I am an ignorant tack fan so maybe my sister didnt raise me right.

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I feel for you guys. I think that state of the franchise talk was just to cushion the blow when this news came out. He's building a practice facility over there as well? Come on folks. Why would they need that just to fly over for a game or two?

You have no clue what you are talking about. Just stop. And you've quoted the resident delusional conspiracy theorist BTW. 

Wembley is a revenue stream for the Jaguars that helps balance the budget -  making a small market team sustainable financially on a level equal to those teams with larger markets and greater revenue. 

Many other NFL owners are now looking at these "home games" in London and the easy revenue bump they provide and they are envious of the Jags tenure and position there. 
If the league were to cater to these owners and begin having more league-wide games there, Khan will now profit from every single contest - not only those featuring his own team. 
It also places him in a more powerful position among owners and with the league in general. 

Assuming that Khan bought the stadium because he wants to move the Jags is lazy and fearful. 

I have no reason not to believe Khan and Lamping when they say they have no intention of moving the team. They've made strides every year to do exactly the opposite of that and their actions and words are still in step with that. 

Khan is a billionaire and he buys things. Now he bought a stadium in London.  No big deal.

Call me clueless? Khan tried to buy the Rams, but was rebuffed due to a multi-million dollar tax evasion case against him. It was resolved just prior to Wayne Weaver selling the Jaguars to him.

Khan will sink $700,000,000.00 to $800,000,000.00 into a rickety stadium on foreign soil then scream like a banshee because Jacksonville tax payers won't give him a $700,000,000.00 to $800,000,00.00 domed stadium?

So why doesn't the City of Jacksonville buy Wembley Stadium and let Khan sink $700,000,000.00 to $800,000,000.00 of his OWN money into improving the Jacksonville stadium to domedom which is being used by the London Jaguars based in Jacksonville (for now)?

We're doing our best to not allow Khan to entirely run the Jacksonville Jaguars into the ground, OK?

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You have no clue what you are talking about. Just stop. And you've quoted the resident delusional conspiracy theorist BTW. 

Wembley is a revenue stream for the Jaguars that helps balance the budget -  making a small market team sustainable financially on a level equal to those teams with larger markets and greater revenue. 

Many other NFL owners are now looking at these "home games" in London and the easy revenue bump they provide and they are envious of the Jags tenure and position there. 
If the league were to cater to these owners and begin having more league-wide games there, Khan will now profit from every single contest - not only those featuring his own team. 
It also places him in a more powerful position among owners and with the league in general. 

Assuming that Khan bought the stadium because he wants to move the Jags is lazy and fearful. 

I have no reason not to believe Khan and Lamping when they say they have no intention of moving the team. They've made strides every year to do exactly the opposite of that and their actions and words are still in step with that. 

Khan is a billionaire and he buys things. Now he bought a stadium in London.  No big deal.

Call me clueless? Khan tried to buy the Rams, but was rebuffed due to a multi-million dollar tax evasion case against him. It was resolved just prior to Wayne Weaver selling the Jaguars to him.

Khan will sink $700,000,000.00 to $800,000,000.00 into a rickety stadium on foreign soil then scream like a banshee because Jacksonville tax payers won't give him a $700,000,000.00 to $800,000,00.00 domed stadium?

So why doesn't the City of Jacksonville buy Wembley Stadium and let Khan sink $700,000,000.00 to $800,000,000.00 of his OWN money into improving the Jacksonville stadium to domedom which is being used by the London Jaguars based in Jacksonville (for now)?

We're doing our best to not allow Khan to entirely run the Jacksonville Jaguars into the ground, OK?

I think i'm the clueless one. 
You are the delusional conspiracy theorist

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I would venture to guess, that as the owner of the stadium, he would receive even more of the advertising,parking,concessions money and fee/rental use for other activities hosted at the stadium than you would get as opposed to a City/Municipal ownership would receive...There are many events held in Wembley that would bring a [BLEEP] pot full of money to the owner of the stadium...

I don't see this as a bad thing, to me it just looks like Mr Khan has found a way to make a ton of money in addition to the NFL and his other company...If I could own a NFL franchise and buy Wembley Stadium too I'd jump on it, and anyone here on this board would too...Why not make a few hundred million dollars in The United States, AND London too?

It's not used. He isn't going to be making back the 1 billion quickly. Why would they sell it if it made tons of money? They would just take the yearly income, unless someone offers well over market value.

No owner is giving a home game up and then not getting the revenue and giving it to Khan. He will get some small %.

Unless the NFL is going to start playing a lot of games there or a Super Bowl, this makes 0 sense.

Khan could sell to another owner of a team moving, but would the other owners like him making a move like that?

More than 1 game will be played there soon, then more or a demand for a new stadium and shipyards. While not an immediate impact, the writing is on the wall and it's going to happen unless the city does what he wants.


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Investments are for the long term...I don't think the NFL owners would be giving Shad any money for home games, but I do believe being the sole owner of the stadium he would get all the advertising money, concessions, parking fees and everything else that the Jaguars have to split with the COJ when they play in Jax...NFL football wouldnt be the only activity in the stadium and he would make all the money on those other things...He knows it needs upgrading and he will upgrade the stadium and then it will host a variety of sports and entertinment again...

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You have no clue what you are talking about. Just stop. And you've quoted the resident delusional conspiracy theorist BTW. 

Wembley is a revenue stream for the Jaguars that helps balance the budget -  making a small market team sustainable financially on a level equal to those teams with larger markets and greater revenue. 

Many other NFL owners are now looking at these "home games" in London and the easy revenue bump they provide and they are envious of the Jags tenure and position there. 
If the league were to cater to these owners and begin having more league-wide games there, Khan will now profit from every single contest - not only those featuring his own team. 
It also places him in a more powerful position among owners and with the league in general. 

Assuming that Khan bought the stadium because he wants to move the Jags is lazy and fearful. 

I have no reason not to believe Khan and Lamping when they say they have no intention of moving the team. They've made strides every year to do exactly the opposite of that and their actions and words are still in step with that. 

Khan is a billionaire and he buys things. Now he bought a stadium in London.  No big deal.

Well thats good. But the bottom line is, as many of you have stated, khan is a businessman. And the business of the jags in jax has lost money every year. If the london game makes so much money for the franchise, its foolish to think he won't expand on that practice. 
The nfl has increased the games in london these past few years. Now it is at least fair to say if a team does move to london, it will be the jags.

Jags have lost money every year? How do you qualify that statement? They are actually growing rapidly considering market size. Oddly enough their valuation is higher than your tacks! It’s a business investment. Khan does well at looking ahead. What he sees is a continued NFL presence in London so why not double that revenue by taking a larger percentage from those teams that play there. FYI, most teams have realized they can increase revenue by playing in London and are lined up to play there. Anyways, I’d be willing to bet a contract will get signed with the NFL stating all games will be played at Wembley. The best part is the stinkin tacks will be paying the Jags to play there!

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Call me clueless? Khan tried to buy the Rams, but was rebuffed due to a multi-million dollar tax evasion case against him. It was resolved just prior to Wayne Weaver selling the Jaguars to him.

Khan will sink $700,000,000.00 to $800,000,000.00 into a rickety stadium on foreign soil then scream like a banshee because Jacksonville tax payers won't give him a $700,000,000.00 to $800,000,00.00 domed stadium?

So why doesn't the City of Jacksonville buy Wembley Stadium and let Khan sink $700,000,000.00 to $800,000,000.00 of his OWN money into improving the Jacksonville stadium to domedom which is being used by the London Jaguars based in Jacksonville (for now)?

We're doing our best to not allow Khan to entirely run the Jacksonville Jaguars into the ground, OK?

I think i'm the clueless one. 
You are the delusional conspiracy theorist

Just giving Khan's resident shills a dose of reality. He isn't investing $850,000,000.00 in Jacksonville to buy the stadium the London Jaguars based in Jacksonville currently play in.  

For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

What else is there to prove?

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I think i'm the clueless one. 
You are the delusional conspiracy theorist

Just giving Khan's resident shills a dose of reality. He isn't investing $850,000,000.00 in Jacksonville to buy the stadium the London Jaguars based in Jacksonville currently play in.  

For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

What else is there to prove?

Sums it up for me.

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I italicized to try to help you out there, pal. 

Please explain to me how the Jags have been "losing money?"  That's what you posted to earn my disrespect.

Sorry i saw that on this forum. 3 years straight, losing money? Did i misread? I am an ignorant tack fan so maybe my sister didnt raise me right.

The lease on the stadium can be broken at no cost if the Jaguars can show a loss for three consecutive years. It became a talking point before and after Khan bought the team because the cost to break the lease was substantial enough to make relocation very, very expensive. It was also a bit of a red herring because the NFL would never allow a team to open its books to the public like that.

As for actual profitability; when Khan bought the team it was essentially breaking even. With the improvement in the stadium and now the results on the field the team is profitable on its own but the London game adds a massive amount of revenue to that because of the deal Khan has with the league regarding the revenue from the game. Other teams get compensated by the league for losing a home game, the Jaguars outright keep all of the revenue for the London game.

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Sorry i saw that on this forum. 3 years straight, losing money? Did i misread? I am an ignorant tack fan so maybe my sister didnt raise me right.

The lease on the stadium can be broken at no cost if the Jaguars can show a loss for three consecutive years. It became a talking point before and after Khan bought the team because the cost to break the lease was substantial enough to make relocation very, very expensive. It was also a bit of a red herring because the NFL would never allow a team to open its books to the public like that.

As for actual profitability; when Khan bought the team it was essentially breaking even. With the improvement in the stadium and now the results on the field the team is profitable on its own but the London game adds a massive amount of revenue to that because of the deal Khan has with the league regarding the revenue from the game. Other teams get compensated by the league for losing a home game, the Jaguars outright keep all of the revenue for the London game.

Guess i did misread. I appologize.
Hope the jags stay in jax

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This is about adding a revenue stream. If people weren't so wrapped up in conspiracy theories maybe they'd take some time to listen to what SK is actually saying. Look, if he wanted to move the team what would it buy him to constantly reaffirm that he's committed to Jacksonville, to developing Jacksonville, and investing in Jacksonville? He could just as easily do none of the above and move the team sooner rather than later if that was his intention.

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I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you.

Maybe, but good luck convincing the NFL that playing in a stadium you own in a city you've spent 5 years building a fan base in is an "away" game.

Goodell made a comment to Trey Wingo on ESPN that caught my attention. He mentioned the Jaguars playing "one or two" games a year there.

I can see two games a year there I don't like it but it's better then no games played here. And it does seem like they've built a pretty good core of "jaguars" fans there that was the point of this project wasn't it? Maybe they do two "home games" two "away games" and give the fans there 4 Jaguars games a year?

If they do that I will cancel my seat tickets because if that's the route then he might as well go all the way with it. Its like a man telling his wife that yeah I cheated on you but at least it wasn't with your best friend. LOL

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This is about adding a revenue stream. If people weren't so wrapped up in conspiracy theories maybe they'd take some time to listen to what SK is actually saying. Look, if he wanted to move the team what would it buy him to constantly reaffirm that he's committed to Jacksonville, to developing Jacksonville, and investing in Jacksonville? He could just as easily do none of the above and move the team sooner rather than later if that was his intention.

It's about a lousy owner making a giant, up-staging cannon ball splash on a day reserved to celebrate the arrival of future NFL stars. The NFL brand is so wrapped up in business catchphrases and appearing to look smart it can't help, but to reveal it has no idea whatsoever what NFL football is all about.

Obviously, Khan believes putting an NFL franchise in Jacksonville is a big mistake. He's acting like a twelve year old little girl with emotional disabilities peeling paint off the living room walls. He can't move the Jaguars so he slips his fingernails into the sheet rock and peels back a little more and a little more.

Khan can buy the stadium the Jaguars are playing in right now and have revenue stream coming out of his nostrils. Instead he howls any chance he gets about Jacksonville and tries to impress people with big boats and stuff. What we end up with is lots and lots of alienated citizens of Jacksonville and a harbor full of one yacht that sticks out like a U.S.N. destroyer in a bath tub.

Khan plays average NFL fans perfectly. His antics are NOT about revenue streams, they're about a will-nilly owner pleading his case for moving the Jaguars out of Jacksonville. He knows the timing and he knows if he can continue to send out the same message - Jacksonville is too small of a market for an NFL team - he will gain all the sympathy he needs when he decides to pack up and haul away to London full-time.

What hurts is when NFL fans see the mixed messages coming from Jacksonville. They know that Jacksonville can't compete with Los Angeles or London, England. A few decry our city as unworthy of a franchise, but most have sense of this finely tuned plague being inflicted upon our city for pretty much a decade and want to help.

In the end, everything about Shad Khan is dysfunctional. All the former NFL order and excellence of having arrived at being rewarded an NFL franchise means next to nothing. It's not the NFL schedule, it's whatever Shad Khan wants to do to make more money. It's not the Jacksonville Jaguars at all. Shad Khan himself dubbed the 30th NFL franchise - The London Jaguars based in Jacksonville. Can't deny it. Can't back away from it.

The stadium area has become a obtuse white eyesore. Khan is forcing a development upon us which nobody wants.

The Jacksonville Jaguars jumped the shark many years ago when Weaver sold the team to Anglo-phile, Shad Khan. Most faced the reality of Khan's moving plans back then and now decline to support the team in the interim prior to the NFL exiting town.

Hey people still watch Happy Days and Ed Sullivan episodes on television oblivious to the fact that social engineering knows no limits nor has a reasonable ending.

By the time Khan is done folks here will be so dispirited and morale so low that the Jaguars will leave without anybody even noticing they've finally done it.

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