After talking through it with friends, I'd say there is a good chance of either. Ford has been essentially forced into hiding by death threats, her career is destroyed, her reputation is ruined...that takes some serious dedication to the cause if she's making it all up. Same with the other accusers who've come forward. It's entirely possible that she's telling the truth, either as she sees it or as it factually is. The real people to blame here are the Democrats that knew about this since July, but chose to question Kavanaugh on Hawaiian history rather than ask even indirectly about the allegations. Just had to ask:

"Have you ever attempted to initiate sexual contact with another person against their will?"

Seems like a much more valuable line of questioning than:

“In the piece you wrote, the Native Hawaiian community was not indigenous because, as you say, after all, they came from Polynesia. It might interest you to know that Hawaii is part of Polynesia so it's not that they came from Polynesia, they were a part of Polynesia."

To be honest, it could also simply be a case of TDS. TDS makes people do irrational things, even if it means destroying their own careers.

At the end of the day, whatever she THINKS happened isn't provable.

TDS is a right-wing saying used to denegrate people who dislike Donald Trump, kind of like "Trumpette" is used by the left. It's not a condition and throwing that term around doesn't do anything but make you feel good.

Yes, I know I've used Trumpette and Trumpie. I'm working on not being as big a dick, ok? This country's headed to a bad place, and it's the fault of everyone who's let it get to this point.

I agree with your last statement, although not necessarily the spirit of it. I think if something genuinely awful had happened, someone would have some memory of it. Inappropriate contact of some sort probably happened. Kavanaugh was a high school kid at a party with free-flowing alcohol. Things happen, many of which people are not proud of 36 years later. The nature and extent of that contact aren't really known for sure to anyone, at least no one willing to corroborate Ford's story, and that's the pickle we're in. I think you'd agree that if there was a witness willing to come forward and say that they knew of the encounter years ago, before political motivations could be called into question, Kavanaugh would be unfit for the bench. The question we're stuck with, thanks to Democrats sandbagging victims until it was clear they were needed, is whether multiple unverifiable accusations should be enough to decide that someone is unfit for the bench.

Personally, I don't think they are. I've been watching this with great interest on left-wing political sites, because if anyone is going to go, "HOLY CRAP YOU GUYS, SOMEONE IS CORROBORATING FORD'S STORY!", those are the places it'll show up first. It hasn't. Without marginalizing the victims, and giving deference to them as victims without assuming that someone would nuke their life over a SCOTUS nominee, you can't destroy someone's career on the words of one person with no witnesses, one who's admitted that she was drunk and doesn't really know if it was even Kavanaugh exposing himself, and a lawyer who's already involved in legislation with Donald Trump and claims to suddenly have proof that Kavanaugh is a serial rapist. If someone, anyone has proof or a witness that can back them up, that changes things, but right now there's nothing verifiable there.

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This country is headed to a bad place? What?

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This country is headed to a bad place? What?

We've lowered the standard of proof to 0 while still managing to blame victims for what they believe happened to them. That's not healthy.

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To be honest, it could also simply be a case of TDS. TDS makes people do irrational things, even if it means destroying their own careers.

At the end of the day, whatever she THINKS happened isn't provable.

TDS is a right-wing saying used to denegrate people who dislike Donald Trump, kind of like "Trumpette" is used by the left. It's not a condition and throwing that term around doesn't do anything but make you feel good.

No... TDS is a real condition snowflakes suffer from because they were taught everyone is a winner, even though real life has winners and losers.

Now they are finding out they are losers... no one likes to be a loser but they can't stand it so it has driven them mad.

TDS is similar to "thanks Obama"
Remember when Obama was the reason for everything bad. All the far righties of the world that swore he was Kenyan, Muslim, and the anti-Christ suffered from an unnamed derangement syndrome.
We've just given a name to it now.

I know a lot of level headed people that don't like Trump (I don't care too much for the person Trump either actually, but the POTUS Trump is OK in my book)


You can deny TDS if you want... but it is very real.

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I wouldn't QUITE put those two possibilities on equal footing

After talking through it with friends, I'd say there is a good chance of either. Ford has been essentially forced into hiding by death threats, her career is destroyed, her reputation is ruined...that takes some serious dedication to the cause if she's making it all up. 

How is her career destroyed? She's a tenured professor, right? Even if she's not tenured, she's not going to be fired by the 100% Left wing department. Also, she has around $350K in GoFundMe accounts, and presumably donations are still coming in. 

Her reputation is still solid (probably boosted) among the Left, who comprise over 90% of the University Faculty and Administration, even if they knew for sure she was lying.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

From What I Am seeing, this is Michael Avenati.  

TJ.  There is no end to this.  Kavanaugh (potentially, that's the most messed up part about this) represents the 5th and deciding vote to overturn Roe V. Wade.  The left was never going to just sit by and let that happen.  They don't have the votes, so we are essentially being treated to the Heckler's veto.  They are just going to keep inundating the process with sleeze until either the nomination is withdrawn or they win back the senate.  

I have to tip my hat to Schumer and the Democrats.  The minute that they got Chuck Grassley and the senate judiciary committee to BEG Christine Ford to testify with NO SUPPORTING EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER they won.  Lindsey Graham put it simply and better than anyone to this point.  Based on the initial information that was presented you couldn't issue a warrant, and no judge would take a civil complaint.  There was nothing!  The idea that they let the democrats have this long to scour the earth and find anyone who ever heard some rumor about a party back in the late 80's is a complete castration of the confirmation process.  This is a circus....  It's a national disgrace.

In reality, there should be a rule.  Republican, democrat, Independent, socialist, egalitarian, moon beam whatever...  Any person that alleges criminal activity against someone sitting for confirmation better darn well have evidence.  Otherwise, there are roughly 300 million people in this country.  There is no shortage of cooks that will put on a show to get thrown out of a committee hearing, make up stories, shout down opponents and the rest of it.  The idea that this was allowed to happen is ridiculous.  

Moreover, whoever decided that Kavanaugh was a more logical choice than Barrett to sit for confirmation and potentially be the swing vote in the Roe decision should be fired.  Tonight.  If you can't see this tactic coming from ten miles away then you have no business in presidential politics.

Here is the thing I don't get, do the dems think that this won't bite them in the you know what down the road?  I simply cannot fathom that both sides of the isle have become so short sighted that they cannot see the long game in any of this.  How did we get to a point in the world that going for second base, and stopping when told no is considered sexual assault?  How many sitting politicians can say this never happened to them?

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

So Kavanaugh is the only high school serial rapist who was a virgin until college.

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So Kavanaugh is the only high school serial rapist who was a virgin until college.

The fact that this question is legitimately being asked suggests two things:
1. Trump was an idiot for listening to Mitch McConnell when McConnell convinced him not to nominate Amy Coney Barrett because she's "too controversial".
2. Whoever convinced Trump that Kavanaugh was the guy should be fired.

The longer Trump waits to yank Kavanaugh and nominate Barrett, the closer Democrats get to keeping this thing from happening before the midterms. If Trump nominates Barrett, he wins by either getting his justice or solidifying control of the Senate by forcing red-state Democrats to put a "no" to a qualified nominee on the record. If he leaves Kavanaugh in place, this thing drags out, he loses his justice, and red-state Democrat Senators don't have to vote "no" to a Trump nominee to keep that confirmation from happening.

Again, I am completely in favor of a Constitutional amendment that would force all judicial nominees to have their confirmation hearings performed in the current session.

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He's not getting yanked. They're digging in. McConnel made a speech on the floor, Kavanaugh is doing joint interviews with his wife and Trump is crippling down.

There is still a shot that this was all a plan to have the nomination pulled with PR, not testimony. My money is that she doesn't show Thursday and kavanaugh gets conformed.

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So, I hear Ford is afraid of flying, but frequents Hawaii. Wonder if she will be driving to DC. What a fraud!

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So, I hear Ford is afraid of flying, but frequents Hawaii. Wonder if she will be driving to DC. What a fraud!

I don't know how this hasn't been more of a sticking point...

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Ford’s lawyer states her fear of flying is caused by the alleged incident with Kavanaugh.

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So Kavanaugh is the only high school serial rapist who was a virgin until college.

The fact that this question is legitimately being asked suggests two things:
1. Trump was an idiot for listening to Mitch McConnell when McConnell convinced him not to nominate Amy Coney Barrett because she's "too controversial".
2. Whoever convinced Trump that Kavanaugh was the guy should be fired.

The longer Trump waits to yank Kavanaugh and nominate Barrett, the closer Democrats get to keeping this thing from happening before the midterms. If Trump nominates Barrett, he wins by either getting his justice or solidifying control of the Senate by forcing red-state Democrats to put a "no" to a qualified nominee on the record. If he leaves Kavanaugh in place, this thing drags out, he loses his justice, and red-state Democrat Senators don't have to vote "no" to a Trump nominee to keep that confirmation from happening.

Again, I am completely in favor of a Constitutional amendment that would force all judicial nominees to have their confirmation hearings performed in the current session.

Its absurd that you think a perfectly qualified candidate shouldn't be nominated because of a false accusation stemming from high school. If you quit because people make up [BLEEP] about you then you have no business in a position of authority.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

The ironic thing is that both the left and right side of the isle cannot see that this type of activity is the very reason that the hated Trump is even in office. Tax paying citizens are tired of the same ole D.C. Trump was elected because of this type of display of political pettiness and insincerity. The whole damn thing is a blatant waste of tax payer dollars and a complete affront to sensible people.

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So Kavanaugh is the only high school serial rapist who was a virgin until college.

The fact that this question is legitimately being asked suggests two things:
1. Trump was an idiot for listening to Mitch McConnell when McConnell convinced him not to nominate Amy Coney Barrett because she's "too controversial".
2. Whoever convinced Trump that Kavanaugh was the guy should be fired.

The longer Trump waits to yank Kavanaugh and nominate Barrett, the closer Democrats get to keeping this thing from happening before the midterms. If Trump nominates Barrett, he wins by either getting his justice or solidifying control of the Senate by forcing red-state Democrats to put a "no" to a qualified nominee on the record. If he leaves Kavanaugh in place, this thing drags out, he loses his justice, and red-state Democrat Senators don't have to vote "no" to a Trump nominee to keep that confirmation from happening.

Again, I am completely in favor of a Constitutional amendment that would force all judicial nominees to have their confirmation hearings performed in the current session.

Man, I gotta disagree with you firmly on this one. Kavanaugh backing down or Trump "pulling him" right now would be a death blow to the GOP and their base. Once this clown show creepy porn lawyer does his thing, it should completely de-legitimize this thing once for all in the court of public opinion.

As for Barrett, don't worry about her, she will replace RBG in a couple years.

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Here or TDS thread?


https://twitter.com/SmashRacismDC/status...video.html

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Here or TDS thread?


https://twitter.com/SmashRacismDC/status...video.html

TDS for sure. I think it was TJBender yesterday saying TDS was just something madeup from the right. It's not.

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TDS for sure. I think it was TJBender yesterday saying TDS was just something madeup from the right. It's not.

Man, I can tell you one thing. If people harassed my wife or me like that when were out somewhere it is going to get ugly quick. I'll be locked up, at least one if not more of them will be hospitalized if within my power and my wife will have to screw with all the bail crap.

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TDS for sure. I think it was TJBender yesterday saying TDS was just something madeup from the right. It's not.

Man, I can tell you one thing. If people harassed my wife or me like that when were out somewhere it is going to get ugly quick. I'll be locked up, at least one if not more of them will be hospitalized if within my power and my wife will have to screw with all the bail crap.

The crazy thing is, when I am out and about in the city, nothing seems to really be political. It's never as bad as the news makes it, but then again, I live in Jacksonville. I'm sure being a conservative in NY or CA would be a lot different

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Try wearing your MAGA hat in 5 Points....

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