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Lmao comparing Teddy and Haskins? I don't know who Erik Lambert is and I'm glad I'll never have to.
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(12-03-2018, 01:26 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(12-03-2018, 10:15 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: Why are we comparing Haskins to only black QBs?

From what I've seen, he looks more like Big Ben.
Regardless of color I think he reminds me of a faster Byron Leftwich with his bigger body, quick release, and the way he under throws his WR when throwing downfield


So basically Byron Leftwich if he was way more athletic, had a way quicker release and had way better placement. 

In other words, not similar to Byron Leftwich at all.
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(12-04-2018, 03:27 AM)JackCity Wrote:
(12-03-2018, 01:26 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Regardless of color I think he reminds me of a faster Byron Leftwich with his bigger body, quick release, and the way he under throws his WR when throwing downfield


So basically Byron Leftwich if he was way more athletic, had a way quicker release and had way better placement. 

In other words, not similar to Byron Leftwich at all.
Lol exactly.
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(12-04-2018, 03:27 AM)JackCity Wrote:
(12-03-2018, 01:26 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Regardless of color I think he reminds me of a faster Byron Leftwich with his bigger body, quick release, and the way he under throws his WR when throwing downfield


So basically Byron Leftwich if he was way more athletic, had a way quicker release and had way better placement. 

In other words, not similar to Byron Leftwich at all.

Haskins doesnt look that athletic at all to me, he is faster than Leftwich but he still looks like he his in slow motion when running with the ball. Haskins does have a pretty quick release as well.  He underthrows his WRs when throwing downfield like Leftwich did. There are a lot of similarities.  Meyer draws up plays where the WR is running wide open a lot of times and the WR can kill the defense on the little crossers.  Ohio St receiving corps is probably the most underrated position group in college
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(12-04-2018, 08:50 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(12-04-2018, 03:27 AM)JackCity Wrote: So basically Byron Leftwich if he was way more athletic, had a way quicker release and had way better placement. 

In other words, not similar to Byron Leftwich at all.

Haskins doesnt look that athletic at all to me, he is faster than Leftwich but he still looks like he his in slow motion when running with the ball. Haskins does have a pretty quick release as well.  He underthrows his WRs when throwing downfield like Leftwich did. There are a lot of similarities.  Meyer draws up plays where the WR is running wide open a lot of times and the WR can kill the defense on the little crossers.  Ohio St receiving corps is probably the most underrated position group in college


He doesn't need to be very athletic to be more athletic than Leftwich who was a complete statue in the pocket.. 

Eh yeah Leftwich had one of the slowest releases in NFL history. Haskins has a very fast release so not sure the comparison you are making there. 

Yup Urbans scheme gets a lot of production out of QBs. Haskins is by far the best QB prospect we have seen in that scheme though and has lots of traits that will carry over to the next level.
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(12-03-2018, 01:26 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(12-03-2018, 10:15 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: Why are we comparing Haskins to only black QBs?

From what I've seen, he looks more like Big Ben.
Regardless of color I think he reminds me of a faster Byron Leftwich with his bigger body, quick release, and the way he under throws his WR when throwing downfield

TIL, Leftwich had a quick release.  Must have developed that while backing up Ben.

(just havin' some fun, gator)
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(12-04-2018, 02:18 PM)Mikey Wrote:
(12-03-2018, 01:26 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Regardless of color I think he reminds me of a faster Byron Leftwich with his bigger body, quick release, and the way he under throws his WR when throwing downfield

TIL, Leftwich had a quick release.
Hell of a wind-up too. 
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(12-03-2018, 01:26 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(12-03-2018, 10:15 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: Why are we comparing Haskins to only black QBs?

From what I've seen, he looks more like Big Ben.
Regardless of color I think he reminds me of a faster Byron Leftwich with his bigger body, quick release, and the way he under throws his WR when throwing downfield

LOL. Byron Leftwich had one of the slowest releases in NFL history. Furthest thing from a "quick release."
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He did have a wind up but a quick release, kind of like Rivers
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(12-04-2018, 09:08 AM)JackCity Wrote:
(12-04-2018, 08:50 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Haskins doesnt look that athletic at all to me, he is faster than Leftwich but he still looks like he his in slow motion when running with the ball. Haskins does have a pretty quick release as well.  He underthrows his WRs when throwing downfield like Leftwich did. There are a lot of similarities.  Meyer draws up plays where the WR is running wide open a lot of times and the WR can kill the defense on the little crossers.  Ohio St receiving corps is probably the most underrated position group in college


He doesn't need to be very athletic to be more athletic than Leftwich who was a complete statue in the pocket.. 

Eh yeah Leftwich had one of the slowest releases in NFL history. Haskins has a very fast release so not sure the comparison you are making there. 

Yup Urbans scheme gets a lot of production out of QBs. Haskins is by far the best QB prospect we have seen in that scheme though and has lots of traits that will carry over to the next level.
Haskins is 4th best QB that was under Meyer.  Tebow, Cam, Smith, Haskins.  Cam left Florida but he started out under Meyer
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Wait a minute...

... we just get a tebro reference in this thread???
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(12-04-2018, 07:42 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(12-04-2018, 09:08 AM)JackCity Wrote: He doesn't need to be very athletic to be more athletic than Leftwich who was a complete statue in the pocket.. 

Eh yeah Leftwich had one of the slowest releases in NFL history. Haskins has a very fast release so not sure the comparison you are making there. 

Yup Urbans scheme gets a lot of production out of QBs. Haskins is by far the best QB prospect we have seen in that scheme though and has lots of traits that will carry over to the next level.
Haskins is 4th best QB that was under Meyer.  Tebow, Cam, Smith, Haskins.  Cam left Florida but he started out under Meyer

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(12-04-2018, 07:42 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(12-04-2018, 09:08 AM)JackCity Wrote: He doesn't need to be very athletic to be more athletic than Leftwich who was a complete statue in the pocket.. 

Eh yeah Leftwich had one of the slowest releases in NFL history. Haskins has a very fast release so not sure the comparison you are making there. 

Yup Urbans scheme gets a lot of production out of QBs. Haskins is by far the best QB prospect we have seen in that scheme though and has lots of traits that will carry over to the next level.
Haskins is 4th best QB that was under Meyer.  Tebow, Cam, Smith, Haskins.  Cam left Florida but he started out under Meyer

HAHAHAHA , first we get you saying Leftwich had a quick release and now this.  

 Bruh, Tebow was not a good QB prospect. Cam Newton threw 12 passes for 54 yards for Urban.  

You could argue Alex Smith if you want but I'd contend the difference in scheme between Utah and Ohio is pretty major.  

Sometimes I really wonder about you and your takes...

(12-04-2018, 07:27 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: He did have a wind up but a quick release, kind of like Rivers

Not even close to Rivers. Leftwich was infamous for having an elongated release that meant defenders often had a jump on the ball (kind of line Blake but his wasn't as bad)

Philip Rivers has a sidearm release that's very very quick.
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(12-04-2018, 07:42 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(12-04-2018, 09:08 AM)JackCity Wrote: He doesn't need to be very athletic to be more athletic than Leftwich who was a complete statue in the pocket.. 

Eh yeah Leftwich had one of the slowest releases in NFL history. Haskins has a very fast release so not sure the comparison you are making there. 

Yup Urbans scheme gets a lot of production out of QBs. Haskins is by far the best QB prospect we have seen in that scheme though and has lots of traits that will carry over to the next level.
Haskins is 4th best QB that was under Meyer.  Tebow, Cam, Smith, Haskins.  Cam left Florida but he started out under Meyer
You're losing this argument...... Take a seat.
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(12-05-2018, 09:42 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(12-04-2018, 07:42 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Haskins is 4th best QB that was under Meyer.  Tebow, Cam, Smith, Haskins.  Cam left Florida but he started out under Meyer
You're losing this argument...... Take a seat.

Not really, he is the 4th best QB Myers has coached.  Not a knock him he just is.

1 was a 2 time National Champ and Heisman winner, 1 was National Champ, Heisman winner and 1st overall pick. The other was a number 1 overall pick. Let's see if he can accomplish any of those
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(12-05-2018, 11:00 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(12-05-2018, 09:42 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: You're losing this argument...... Take a seat.

Not really, he is the 4th best QB Myers has coached.  Not a knock him he just is.

1 was a 2 time National Champ and Heisman winner, 1 was National Champ, Heisman winner and 1st overall pick. The other was a number 1 overall pick.  Let's see if he can accomplish any of those
No one would classify Cam as an Urban Meyer guy except you. We are also talking about pro prospects. Tebow was never a good pro prospect. 

You also said Byron had quick release. You can't have a windup AND a quick release. It doesn't work that way.
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(12-05-2018, 11:00 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(12-05-2018, 09:42 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: You're losing this argument...... Take a seat.

Not really, he is the 4th best QB Myers has coached.  Not a knock him he just is.

1 was a 2 time National Champ and Heisman winner, 1 was National Champ, Heisman winner and 1st overall pick. The other was a number 1 overall pick.  Let's see if he can accomplish any of those

"Best QB prospect".  

Tebow being a very good college QB is not the same as being a good QB prospect. Which is why he was an awful first round drat pick (I know your Gator clouded eyes aren't aware of that).  

Cam was a great prospect but barely played in Urbans scheme at college level and thus not even close to being comparable to Haskins in that scheme. If you wanted to say Cam is a much better prospect than Haskins I'd agree. But thats not what we're talking about.
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(12-05-2018, 12:18 PM)JackCity Wrote:
(12-05-2018, 11:00 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Not really, he is the 4th best QB Myers has coached.  Not a knock him he just is.

1 was a 2 time National Champ and Heisman winner, 1 was National Champ, Heisman winner and 1st overall pick. The other was a number 1 overall pick.  Let's see if he can accomplish any of those

"Best QB prospect".  

Tebow being a very good college QB is not the same as being a good QB prospect. Which is why he was an awful first round drat pick (I know your Gator clouded eyes aren't aware of that).  

Cam was a great prospect but barely played in Urbans scheme at college level and thus not even close to being comparable to Haskins in that scheme. If you wanted to say Cam is a much better prospect than Haskins I'd agree. But thats not what we're talking about.

I said "QBs Meyer ha coached" Tebow was a great prospect, the reason he went in the first round.  Hes an outspoken Christion though and the league doesn't want that

Josh McDaniels knows talent when he sees it
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(12-05-2018, 12:48 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(12-05-2018, 12:18 PM)JackCity Wrote: "Best QB prospect".  

Tebow being a very good college QB is not the same as being a good QB prospect. Which is why he was an awful first round drat pick (I know your Gator clouded eyes aren't aware of that).  

Cam was a great prospect but barely played in Urbans scheme at college level and thus not even close to being comparable to Haskins in that scheme. If you wanted to say Cam is a much better prospect than Haskins I'd agree. But thats not what we're talking about.

I said "QBs Meyer ha coached" Tebow was a great prospect, the reason he went in the first round.  Hes an outspoken Christion though and the league doesn't want that

Josh McDaniels knows talent when he sees it
That couldn't be further from the truth. They do prayer huddles after every single game. Wentz is a very outspoken Christian so is the league trying to kick him out too? Tebow just couldn't throw the ball effectively.
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(12-05-2018, 12:52 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(12-05-2018, 12:48 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I said "QBs Meyer ha coached" Tebow was a great prospect, the reason he went in the first round.  Hes an outspoken Christion though and the league doesn't want that

Josh McDaniels knows talent when he sees it
That couldn't be further from the truth. They do prayer huddles after every single game. Wentz is a very outspoken Christian so is the league trying to kick him out too? Tebow just couldn't throw the ball effectively.

 Wentz is nowhere near outspoken as Tebow.  Not to mention the circus.  Teams admit they wouldnt sign him because of all the media attention.
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