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(02-07-2019, 03:28 PM)p_rushing Wrote:
(02-07-2019, 01:28 PM)JaguarKick Wrote: So there's like zero sources for this...

(02-07-2019, 03:23 PM)JackCity Wrote: "La Canfora"

Means the same thing, just like his story how TC would be the coach this season

Or that we'd be in London by 2021.  His takes on this team are such complete garbage I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out we have no interest in Foles.
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God I can't wait until March 13th gets here already so we can stop talking about Foles' stupid [BLEEP]. This crap is annoying as all get out and we still have to listen to this [BLEEP] for another month...  Wallbash
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(02-07-2019, 06:14 PM)Eric1 Wrote: God I can't wait until March 13th gets here already so we can stop talking about Foles' stupid [BLEEP]. This crap is annoying as all get out and we still have to listen to this [BLEEP] for another month...  Wallbash

Lol, some wittle feelings are hurt  Laughing
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(02-07-2019, 06:26 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(02-07-2019, 06:14 PM)Eric1 Wrote: God I can't wait until March 13th gets here already so we can stop talking about Foles' stupid [BLEEP]. This crap is annoying as all get out and we still have to listen to this [BLEEP] for another month...  Wallbash

Lol, some wittle feelings are hurt  Laughing

The proper term is triggered.


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(02-07-2019, 07:01 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:
(02-07-2019, 06:26 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Lol, some wittle feelings are hurt  Laughing

The proper term is triggered.

oh my bad lol
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(02-05-2019, 08:07 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(02-05-2019, 06:30 PM)JackCity Wrote: All pro guard Brandon Brooks and Goedert too while they're at it
Still can’t believe the Jags passed on Goedert.

Man that sucks.
Goedert was taken 20 picks after we drafted Bryan.. Lets not act like he was the next pick, or even in the next 10 picks..
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(02-08-2019, 02:51 AM)Eric1 Wrote:
(02-05-2019, 08:07 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Still can’t believe the Jags passed on Goedert.

Man that sucks.
Goedert was taken 20 picks after we drafted Bryan.. Lets not act like he was the next pick, or even in the next 10 picks..

That doesn't discredit anything he said lol
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(02-08-2019, 03:20 AM)JackCity Wrote:
(02-08-2019, 02:51 AM)Eric1 Wrote: Goedert was taken 20 picks after we drafted Bryan.. Lets not act like he was the next pick, or even in the next 10 picks..

That doesn't discredit anything he said lol

Nor does it add credit to anything he said either lol
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(02-08-2019, 03:52 AM)Eric1 Wrote:
(02-08-2019, 03:20 AM)JackCity Wrote: That doesn't discredit anything he said lol

Nor does it add credit to anything he said either lol

He said they passed on Goedert for Bryan, which they indisputably did.
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(02-08-2019, 04:22 AM)JackCity Wrote:
(02-08-2019, 03:52 AM)Eric1 Wrote: Nor does it add credit to anything he said either lol

He said they passed on Goedert for Bryan, which they indisputably did.

and 31 other teams passed on him as well, nearly twice... that's the entire point...
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(02-08-2019, 04:33 AM)Eric1 Wrote:
(02-08-2019, 04:22 AM)JackCity Wrote: He said they passed on Goedert for Bryan, which they indisputably did.

and 31 other teams passed on him as well, nearly twice... that's the entire point...

So you agree with him that we passed on him. Great.
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I has Goedert as my sig back in like Oct or Nov before the draft. That said Bryan still can prove he was the right pick and I do think he will be the most improved player this year.

I wanted offense because I wanted a player that would of been more of an impact last year but it really wouldnt of mattered who we picked last year because we had so many injuries.

What matters is how good the player is from now going forward and I think Bryan will take off this year. You seen it at the end of the season and he even got his first sack in the last game
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(02-08-2019, 03:52 AM)Eric1 Wrote:
(02-08-2019, 03:20 AM)JackCity Wrote: That doesn't discredit anything he said lol

Nor does it add credit to anything he said either lol
Dude. Why are you so grumpy?

I would have preferred they take Goedert because I think he's going to be a pro bowl TE one day. No matter where Goedert was taken, I still think he should have been the Jags first rounder.
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(02-07-2019, 03:23 PM)JackCity Wrote:
(02-07-2019, 01:13 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jagua...20%251%24s

"La Canfora"

The voices in your head can be considered multiple sources.
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(02-08-2019, 08:43 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I has Goedert as my sig back in  like Oct or Nov before the draft.  That said Bryan still can prove he was the right pick and I do think he will be the most improved player this year.

I wanted offense because I wanted a player that would of been more of an impact last year but it really wouldnt of mattered who we picked last year because we had so many injuries.

What matters is how good the player is from now going forward and I think Bryan will take off this year.  You seen it at the end of the season and he even got his first sack in the last game

Agreed. 

I wanted one of the top TEs, or Isaiah Wynn, going into the draft. But having an unproductive rookie season like Bryan did is hardly enough to consider him a bust. 

Campbell didn't start a single game and didn't register a sack his rookie season.
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(02-08-2019, 11:11 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(02-08-2019, 03:52 AM)Eric1 Wrote: Nor does it add credit to anything he said either lol
Dude. Why are you so grumpy?

I would have preferred they take Goedert because I think he's going to be a pro bowl TE one day. No matter where Goedert was taken, I still think he should have been the Jags first rounder.

Apparently you can only prefer a player if he went 10 picks after the guy we took!
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(02-08-2019, 01:10 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:
(02-08-2019, 08:43 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I has Goedert as my sig back in  like Oct or Nov before the draft.  That said Bryan still can prove he was the right pick and I do think he will be the most improved player this year.

I wanted offense because I wanted a player that would of been more of an impact last year but it really wouldnt of mattered who we picked last year because we had so many injuries.

What matters is how good the player is from now going forward and I think Bryan will take off this year.  You seen it at the end of the season and he even got his first sack in the last game

Agreed. 

I wanted one of the top TEs, or Isaiah Wynn, going into the draft. But having an unproductive rookie season like Bryan did is hardly enough to consider him a bust. 

Campbell didn't start a single game and didn't register a sack his rookie season.
I'm definitely not calling Bryan a bust because I think now that he will play his best position at 3T, he will be much improved. However, it appeared the Jags were going all in and selecting a developmental Dlineman just didn't make sense. Goedert was a clear position of need and would have helped right away.
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(This post was last modified: 02-10-2019, 12:15 AM by pirkster.)

(02-06-2019, 08:43 PM)JackCity Wrote: It's interesting that teams aren't pulling their hair out to land such an amazing QB......

Should we be using similar logic to look down on Haskins if he's not projected #1 overall (as most top of class high caliber QB prospects are?)

Foles may not end up here.

But the theme developing in this thread is a distrust in the selections/decisions we've made.

Whether or not we land Foles... that second part is what concerns me most.
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(02-10-2019, 12:10 AM)pirkster Wrote:
(02-06-2019, 08:43 PM)JackCity Wrote: It's interesting that teams aren't pulling their hair out to land such an amazing QB......

Should we be using similar logic to look down on Haskins if he's not projected #1 overall (as most top of class high caliber QB prospects are?)

Foles may not end up here.

But the theme developing in this thread is a distrust in the selections/decisions we've made.

Whether or not we land Foles... that second part is what concerns me most.


I thought 2017 would have showed you the error of using logic like that to determine how good you think prospect is.

Also Haskins is projected to go top 5 and likely will be taken #2 or #3 if the Raiders don't fancy moving back. Only reason he isn't the de facto #1 in mocks is because A) The 49ers don't need a QB and B) It's early in draft season and they haven't expressed an interest in moving yet. 

If the jaguars moved to #1 he'd be the projected #1 pick. If they were only able to move to #2 he'd still be just as good as a prospect, it just means the 49ers wanted to stay pat and take their guy regardless of the trade bait.


Yes I think you're absolutely right on the decision making part
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(02-10-2019, 04:09 AM)JackCity Wrote:
(02-10-2019, 12:10 AM)pirkster Wrote: Should we be using similar logic to look down on Haskins if he's not projected #1 overall (as most top of class high caliber QB prospects are?)

Foles may not end up here.

But the theme developing in this thread is a distrust in the selections/decisions we've made.

Whether or not we land Foles... that second part is what concerns me most.


I thought 2017 would have showed you the error of using logic like that to determine how good you think prospect is.

Also Haskins is projected to go top 5 and likely will be taken #2 or #3 if the Raiders don't fancy moving back. Only reason he isn't the de facto #1 in mocks is because A) The 49ers don't need a QB and B) It's early in draft season and they haven't expressed an interest in moving yet. 

If the jaguars moved to #1 he'd be the projected #1 pick. If they were only able to move to #2 he'd still be just as good as a prospect, it just means the 49ers wanted to stay pat and take their guy regardless of the trade bait.


Yes I think you're absolutely right on the decision making part

The point I'm trying to make here, is that there's a good chance the best QB of the class isn't Haskins - just the same way the best QB of the class wasn't Trubisky.

What we're seeing with the lack of strength at the top of this QB class, is that other positions are of much greater quality and value.  That doesn't happen when there's a quality franchise QB candidate at the top.  No, the eventual best of class aren't always there - which is my point.

Sure, Haskins could be the first off the board.  But like the class you keep pointing back to, the best of class could actually be taken later.  That's the danger in QB classes that aren't as strong as others.  Who "will be" the QB(s) to take aren't as clear.

I'm not sure where you're seeing this lock for top 5.  There's MUCH more defensive value there with the pass rushers and DL.  Sure, there could be someone willing to get ahead of the Giants, but that's not where the value is slotting him.  IIRC, he was initially advised top 20 and later it was narrowed to top 10 (after the news Herbert was staying in school.)  Any QB the Giants may take is stretching the value of these QBs, but that's not unusual with a shallow class like this.
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