I don't see any offensive player other than Haskins, being worthy of the #7 pick. I'm hoping we can trade down into the #11 to #15 spot and add the best OG/OT in the draft, Cody Ford. He'd fit perfectly at RG.

OK, Haskins is not around at #7 and we trade down to get a RG.  Who is our QB next season?
How do you convince our Club Seat Season Ticket Holders (and other STHs) that we really improved by getting a RG and perhaps a QB in round 2 (versus the alternative of bringing in Foles and perhaps trading down for an elite TE, WR or your RG)

I would've traded up to get Haskins. Whatever it takes. I believe he is a future franchise QB, but that's not gonna happen. Instead, we're gonna get Foles, so you NEED to get him some protection. He had a very good O-Line at Philadelphia and what he has here is significantly worse. He's gonna need us to upgrade that right side of the line. That doesn't mean we ignore TE and WR. We have 4 picks in the first 3 rounds. You can add a premier TE in round 2 or 3. The same for WR.

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And signing FA's like Kirk Cousins and Case Keenum worked out great for the Vikings and Broncos. Touche'. Some of you guys are ridiculous. Just because you whiff on drafting a QB, doesn't mean you stick your head in the sand and avoid ever doing it again. Look how many times the Browns did it and failed. Did they give up? No, they stuck with it and now they have Mayfield and we still have nothing. You guys give up way too easily.

If the Jags had the #1 pick (like the Browns) I would get your point....BUT....they don't.

What happens if they have a trade in place for Haskins @3 but someone jumps ahead and snags him then what would YOU do as the GM?

That's why we'd have to trade up as far as possible. I'd start at #1 and see if they are willing to deal down. I then go #2 and so on.

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OK, Haskins is not around at #7 and we trade down to get a RG.  Who is our QB next season?
How do you convince our Club Seat Season Ticket Holders (and other STHs) that we really improved by getting a RG and perhaps a QB in round 2 (versus the alternative of bringing in Foles and perhaps trading down for an elite TE, WR or your RG)

I would've traded up to get Haskins. Whatever it takes. I believe he is a future franchise QB, but that's not gonna happen. Instead, we're gonna get Foles, so you NEED to get him some protection. He had a very good O-Line at Philadelphia and what he has here is significantly worse. He's gonna need us to upgrade that right side of the line. That doesn't mean we ignore TE and WR. We have 4 picks in the first 3 rounds. You can add a premier TE in round 2 or 3. The same for WR.

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If the Jags had the #1 pick (like the Browns) I would get your point....BUT....they don't.

What happens if they have a trade in place for Haskins @3 but someone jumps ahead and snags him then what would YOU do as the GM?

That's why we'd have to trade up as far as possible. I'd start at #1 and see if they are willing to deal down. I then go #2 and so on.

So what are you willing to part with to get him?

Two 1st (next year being top 5 most likely)
2nd this year 
Both 3rds this year

That probably the minimum to get to #1 then how are you going to support Haskins?

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The "stone age offense" or "outdated" offensive philosophy is pretty much crap.  This year's Super Bowl was all about defense and the running game.  If you have a strong defense, good running game and at the very least adequate passing offense you will win.  The "explosive" high-scoring teams didn't even survive the playoffs (with the exception of the Rams).  How did that work out in the final game?

The final 4 teams of the NFL season this year were the 4 best offenses so your point isn't actually true there.

Now I do agree that the way to win NFL games isn't just playing like Texas Tech. A lot of the stats people who think the run game is totally useless fail to see that the game isn't played on a spreadsheet. Like Belichick says, you want to be unpredictable as possible and be able to change playstyles by the quarter if needs be, and yes defense is still very important in the post season of course

So yes, the "best offenses" were in the final 4.  Again, the final prize was won by playing great defense and getting just enough out of the offense.  That being said though, how did it work out for the "best offenses" this past season?  The Chiefs and the Rams made the final 4, yet the Chiefs lost not only in the post season, but also in the regular season in what was a boring "college like" game.  You can't rely on an "explosive offense" to get you there, even though that's what fans want to see.  A strong defense, good run game and adequate-to-great passing game is what will win it.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

I would've traded up to get Haskins. Whatever it takes. I believe he is a future franchise QB, but that's not gonna happen. Instead, we're gonna get Foles, so you NEED to get him some protection. He had a very good O-Line at Philadelphia and what he has here is significantly worse. He's gonna need us to upgrade that right side of the line. That doesn't mean we ignore TE and WR. We have 4 picks in the first 3 rounds. You can add a premier TE in round 2 or 3. The same for WR.

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That's why we'd have to trade up as far as possible. I'd start at #1 and see if they are willing to deal down. I then go #2 and so on.

So what are you willing to part with to get him?

Two 1st (next year being top 5 most likely)
2nd this year 
Both 3rds this year

That probably the minimum to get to #1 then how are you going to support Haskins?

Ask them what they want and start negotiating from there. You don't have to trade every high pick this year. Many deals are made using future picks. Trading up for Haskins does not mean we wouldn't be able to add weapons this year.

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So what are you willing to part with to get him?

Two 1st (next year being top 5 most likely)
2nd this year 
Both 3rds this year

That probably the minimum to get to #1 then how are you going to support Haskins?

Ask them what they want and start negotiating from there. You don't have to trade every high pick this year. Many deals are made using future picks. Trading up for Haskins does not mean we wouldn't be able to add weapons this year.

Point being in order to secure him you are going to have to give up a ton...you can't just have the mindset that #7, next years 2nd, and a third this year is going to get him.

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Ask them what they want and start negotiating from there. You don't have to trade every high pick this year. Many deals are made using future picks. Trading up for Haskins does not mean we wouldn't be able to add weapons this year.

Point being in order to secure him you are going to have to give up a ton...you can't just have the mindset that #7, next years 2nd, and a third this year is going to get him.

I realize the price would be steep. That's just the way the NFL is. I'm willing to pay that price in order to get a franchise QB for the next 10+ years. Without a franchise QB in today's NFL, you'll never win a championship. I'm not scared of taking risks, when it comes to getting a QB.

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Point being in order to secure him you are going to have to give up a ton...you can't just have the mindset that #7, next years 2nd, and a third this year is going to get him.

I realize the price would be steep. That's just the way the NFL is. I'm willing to pay that price in order to get a franchise QB for the next 10+ years. Without a franchise QB in today's NFL, you'll never win a championship. I'm not scared of taking risks, when it comes to getting a QB.

And by year 3 we might be able to get him some weapons with the draft as our cap w/ Foles or not is not going to let us do much in FA.

Best case scenario he drops to 7...we grab him...or he slips to 4/5 and it maybe only takes #7 and a couple of third rounders.

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I think we should now turn our attention to his moniker ... It's Dave Kennedy. Right?

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Ask them what they want and start negotiating from there. You don't have to trade every high pick this year. Many deals are made using future picks. Trading up for Haskins does not mean we wouldn't be able to add weapons this year.

Point being in order to secure him you are going to have to give up a ton...you can't just have the mindset that #7, next years 2nd, and a third this year is going to get him.

Boy. Those Chiefs, Jets and Texans sure are regretting trading up for their QB.....

Who cares how much it takes if it lands you a franchise potentially elite QB?

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https://twitter.com/nfltrade_rumors/stat...1575829504

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Point being in order to secure him you are going to have to give up a ton...you can't just have the mindset that #7, next years 2nd, and a third this year is going to get him.

Boy. Those Chiefs, Jets and Texans sure are regretting trading up for their QB.....

Who cares how much it takes if it lands you a franchise potentially elite QB?

Once again if you are that convinced that Haskins is a sure bet go for it...but to me he isn't a Trevor Lawerence where I give it all away to have the #1 pick.

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I'd prefer Andy Dalton to Foles

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I'd prefer Andy Dalton to Foles

You and your love for Dalton lol

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I'd prefer Andy Dalton to Foles

You and your love for Dalton lol

I don't think Dalton is good, he just fits better than Foles

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You and your love for Dalton lol

I don't think Dalton is good, he just fits better than Foles

You always bring up Dalton lol

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In Before the Foles is trash we need a new QB post start!!!!

If we are in a position to draft Trevor Lawrence in 2 years, my time as a season ticket holder will be over.

What if the Jaguars make the playoffs 3 of the next 4 years. Lose the AFC title game twice, and then have a top 5 pick to select a QB in 2023?

What if the Jaguars make the playoffs the next 2 years, lose in the divisional round both times, and then trade up to draft Lawrence in 2021?

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I don't think Dalton is good, he just fits better than Foles

You always bring up Dalton lol

Such as?

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I'd prefer Andy Dalton to Foles

I live in the Cincinnati area and you totally lost me on that one. Even my friends who are Bengals fans wanna get rid of him. He is the epitome of the word "average."

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I'd prefer Andy Dalton to Foles

I live in the Cincinnati area and you totally lost me on that one. Even my friends who are Bengals fans wanna get rid of him. He is the epitome of the word "average."

"i don't think he's good"

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