Quick thoughts on Foles:

From his interviews I read him as valuing a good work environment - WE locker room - so that will factor in as well as his fair market value. Will this help us or hurt us? I am clueless because I am not in there with the players. I would like to pay him $20 million this year as a signal to the world we believe he is THE one and not some bargain basement replacement to appease fans and disgruntled players.

Marrone wants a veteran. Caldwell is up in the air. He chose Bortles last time so I hope Marrone wins out and we get Foles, if affordable.

Now for the Draft:

If we sign Foles, we have placed a check mark next to QB. Caldwell and Company are standing pat at WR. I concur with their assessment. So I believe they will go best available player for OL or TE at #7 and in our second pick unless a stud to replace Gibson falls to us.

I saw a sleeper QB at the Combine that would be a bargain in the Third Round but I cannot remember the name. I just remember thinking Natural Athlete.




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Interesting thought. Why not sign Foles AND go after Haskins? Foles is 30 and has been in the league for a while and has experienced the Super Bowl. Why not use Foles as a stopgap while grooming Haskins? Maybe even try some 2 quarterback sets to throw the D off. We can get Haskins cheap on a rookie contract and by the time we need to give him money, we'll know whether he is our future or not. If Foles is the better option, keep him and trade Haskins.

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Interesting thought. Why not sign Foles AND go after Haskins? Foles is 30 and has been in the league for a while and has experienced the Super Bowl. Why not use Foles as a stopgap while grooming Haskins? Maybe even try some 2 quarterback sets to throw the D off. We can get Haskins cheap on a rookie contract and by the time we need to give him money, we'll know whether he is our future or not. If Foles is the better option, keep him and trade Haskins.

With the Jaguars releasing their current starting QB, you really cannot cause any possibly division in the locker room with Foles and a top 10 draft pick. I know Foles has a great reputation as a leader and locker room guy, but that is because he earned that reputation in Philly. He has to earn that reputation here in Jacksonville, it won't just be given to him. Bringing in both at the same time can create friction in the locker room, especially if there are some "growing pains" with Foles, new weapons, and learning a new offense.

Plus they will have to trade up for Haskins. Just don't see any way he falls to 7 unless some huge scandal, such as micro-fracture knee surgery, pops up.

Additionally, the money situation becomes tricky unless Bortles actually gets a back up job with that reduces Jags cap obligation by at least $4-5 million.

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Interesting thought. Why not sign Foles AND go after Haskins? Foles is 30 and has been in the league for a while and has experienced the Super Bowl. Why not use Foles as a stopgap while grooming Haskins? Maybe even try some 2 quarterback sets to throw the D off. We can get Haskins cheap on a rookie contract and by the time we need to give him money, we'll know whether he is our future or not. If Foles is the better option, keep him and trade Haskins.

With the Jaguars releasing their current starting QB, you really cannot cause any possibly division in the locker room with Foles and a top 10 draft pick. I know Foles has a great reputation as a leader and locker room guy, but that is because he earned that reputation in Philly. He has to earn that reputation here in Jacksonville, it won't just be given to him. Bringing in both at the same time can create friction in the locker room, especially if there are some "growing pains" with Foles, new weapons, and learning a new offense.

Plus they will have to trade up for Haskins. Just don't see any way he falls to 7 unless some huge scandal, such as micro-fracture knee surgery, pops up.

Additionally, the money situation becomes tricky unless Bortles actually gets a back up job with that reduces Jags cap obligation by at least $4-5 million.

If Foles cant handle the pressure of competing against a Rookie then Im not even sure we should consider him to lead our team. Then again, this is a QB who has basically lost every Position Battle he has ever had and he even lost his place to Wentz after winning the SB at age 29. Says a lot in itself tbh.

I do agree that Haskins will not be there at 7.

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With the Jaguars releasing their current starting QB, you really cannot cause any possibly division in the locker room with Foles and a top 10 draft pick. I know Foles has a great reputation as a leader and locker room guy, but that is because he earned that reputation in Philly. He has to earn that reputation here in Jacksonville, it won't just be given to him. Bringing in both at the same time can create friction in the locker room, especially if there are some "growing pains" with Foles, new weapons, and learning a new offense.

Plus they will have to trade up for Haskins. Just don't see any way he falls to 7 unless some huge scandal, such as micro-fracture knee surgery, pops up.

Additionally, the money situation becomes tricky unless Bortles actually gets a back up job with that reduces Jags cap obligation by at least $4-5 million.

If Foles cant handle the pressure of competing against a Rookie then Im not even sure we should consider him to lead our team. Then again, this is a QB who has basically lost every Position Battle he has ever had and he even lost his place to Wentz after winning the SB at age 29. Says a lot in itself tbh.

I do agree that Haskins will not be there at 7.

That wasn't my point. My point was as soon as Haskins is on the the team, some players/coaches could want him to start depending on how the season plays out. That can cause locker room issues.

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If Foles cant handle the pressure of competing against a Rookie then Im not even sure we should consider him to lead our team. Then again, this is a QB who has basically lost every Position Battle he has ever had and he even lost his place to Wentz after winning the SB at age 29. Says a lot in itself tbh.

I do agree that Haskins will not be there at 7.

That wasn't my point. My point was as soon as Haskins is on the the team, some players/coaches could want him to start depending on how the season plays out. That can cause locker room issues.

The way it would have to play out would be Foles would have to play like crap. I dont necessarily see that happening, because the issue doesnt solely lie on the QB position, but on the lack of weapons, Oline and Coaching. Ppl would call for Marrones head before asking for the Rookie to play. Unless of course Foles starts throwing INTs left and right when the rest of the team plays well. But I doubt that would happen since there is such a lack of quality on offense. Foles would manage to look okay, especially since his predecessors were Bortles and Kessler.

Unfortunately, that is not enough imo to sign Foles to a long term deal.

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Interesting thought. Why not sign Foles AND go after Haskins? Foles is 30 and has been in the league for a while and has experienced the Super Bowl. Why not use Foles as a stopgap while grooming Haskins? Maybe even try some 2 quarterback sets to throw the D off. We can get Haskins cheap on a rookie contract and by the time we need to give him money, we'll know whether he is our future or not. If Foles is the better option, keep him and trade Haskins.

Ideally, that might not be a bad idea since you never know for sure how a rookie will pan out and Foles is a good player but it's unknown how he'll do in a new system and competition is always good.  But you have to consider, it's not like the Jags may have a choice, Haskins might not be available when the Jags draft. Additionally, what if Foles really gets it going when he gets in Jax? Are you going to keep your highly drafted rookie QB on the bench for 3 or 4 years?  It's problematic.  If I'm the Jags and I land Foles, I want to give him some weapons to work with, so I go OL, TE, WR in that order.  You can draft a rookie QB in 2020 or 2021 when the talent level may go deeper.

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I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you.

Interesting thought. Why not sign Foles AND go after Haskins? Foles is 30 and has been in the league for a while and has experienced the Super Bowl. Why not use Foles as a stopgap while grooming Haskins? Maybe even try some 2 quarterback sets to throw the D off. We can get Haskins cheap on a rookie contract and by the time we need to give him money, we'll know whether he is our future or not. If Foles is the better option, keep him and trade Haskins.

Ideally, that might not be a bad idea since you never know for sure how a rookie will pan out and Foles is a good player but it's unknown how he'll do in a new system and competition is always good.  But you have to consider, it's not like the Jags may have a choice, Haskins might not be available when the Jags draft. Additionally, what if Foles really gets it going when he gets in Jax? Are you going to keep your highly drafted rookie QB on the bench for 3 or 4 years?  It's problematic.  If I'm the Jags and I land Foles, I want to give him some weapons to work with, so I go OL, TE, WR in that order.  You can draft a rookie QB in 2020 or 2021 when the talent level may go deeper.

Having Haskins while also having Nick Foles playing really well would fall under the heading of "great problems to have". If you think Haskins is a franchise QB and he's there you take him and don't look back. The whole notion of just kicking the can down the line is partly why we haven't drafted a good QB in the entire history of our franchise

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Quick thoughts on Foles:

From his interviews I read him as valuing a good work environment - WE locker room - so that will factor in as well as his fair market value.  Will this help us or hurt us? I am clueless because I am not in there with the players. I would like to pay him $20 million this year as a signal to the world we believe he is THE one and not some bargain basement replacement to appease fans and disgruntled players.

Marrone wants a veteran.  Caldwell is up in the air. He chose Bortles last time so I hope  Marrone wins out and we get Foles, if affordable.

Now for the Draft:

If we sign Foles, we have placed a check mark next to QB. Caldwell and Company are standing pat at WR. I concur with their assessment. So I believe they will go best available player for OL or TE at #7 and in our second pick unless a stud to replace Gibson falls to us.

I saw a sleeper QB at the Combine that would be a bargain in the Third Round but I cannot remember the name. I just remember thinking Natural Athlete.

Thank the stars that you are not our GM, then. You don't overpay a guy just to tell other teams you're committed to the dude. I certainly hope we can bring him in for cheaper than that, if we do decide to bring him in.

Draft - you thinking of Tyree Jackson, out of Buffalo? Only one I can think of who would fit that bill, and he's going to need work, and likely available after the 3rd

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Oh no were doomed. If I'm wrong that would be great but I'm not sure what/how Foles is fixing this train wreck of an offense.

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Oh no were doomed.  If I'm wrong that would be great but I'm not sure what/how Foles is fixing this train wreck of an offense.

If you believe this offense is such a train wreck, how would a rookie QB with limited college experience fix things?

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You don't go for broke. If you can get Foles within striking distance of what you think he's worth, you do that (and then take a shot on a mid-round QB in the draft). If you can't, then you don't sign a FA QB (Bortles is no worse than anyone who'd be available to replace him and is probably a better option as a bridge QB given his proven willingness to support another starter) - and you take what you can in the first round (you don't mortgage the future trading up to #1, but you don't let all the QBs you rate come off the board before you pick either). Going for broke is a great way to end up broke.

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I may sound ignorant or daft here but how have Chiefs signed Hyde before FA but we’d be fined for Foles. Is it because he got cut?

Also don’t shoot me down for not knowing..

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I may sound ignorant or daft here but how have Chiefs signed Hyde before FA but we’d be fined for Foles. Is it because he got cut?

Also don’t shoot me down for not knowing..

Yes, because he was released.

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I may sound ignorant or daft here but how have Chiefs signed Hyde before FA but we’d be fined for Foles. Is it because he got cut?

Also don’t shoot me down for not knowing..

Yes, because he was released.

Thanks mate

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Would it not be nice if Bortles was a good option? If the FO did not just show their hand, freeing up all that capital, well, just shoot me now. I think we wait until after a June 1 to officially cut Blake, though, because it lessens the dead cap hit, I believe.


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They will put him as a June 1st cut to maximize the savings at least they should.

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They just “designate” him as a Post June 1st cut and release him tomorrow.

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I'd rather have Haskins, but slim chance he will be available. I would like to get Foles, and maybe possibly drafting Drew Lock if Haskins is gone. What if Foles gets hurt? He has never played a full season.

I think we need to sign a Foles/Bridgewater/Taylor and draft a Murray/Haskins/Lock/Jones

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Oh no were doomed.  If I'm wrong that would be great but I'm not sure what/how Foles is fixing this train wreck of an offense.

If you believe this offense is such a train wreck, how would a rookie QB with limited college experience fix things?

I just think the money is a problem.  A rookie deal sets up as a cheaper option.

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