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Foles vs Minshew (poll & merged threads)
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Man if he beats the Saints at home this week...... Wrap up the rookie of the year award.
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I'm not sure if this team is capable of beating the Saints, to be honest
But I DO think Minshew is up for the challenge. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (10-03-2019, 01:45 PM)icey14 Wrote: I like Nick Foles, but seems like Gardner is a franchise qb or can be. And if the team believes he can be. You make him your new QB as Foles was just gonna be a stop gap till we drafted one in a year or two. Expensive stopgap but he did his job. So what if the gap was only 11 plays? There will be a market for him- if GM15 continues along this path, deal Foles for OL help and push in the chips on the FU. (10-07-2019, 01:28 AM)Eric1 Wrote: I really hope this coaching staff/front office doesn't [BLEEP] this up by forcing Foles back into the starting QB role. He was nothing more than a stop gap QB to begin with and it's looking like we found a real gem in Minshew. Yes. +1
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I think I'm too cynical and jaded to actually believe we've stumbled upon a 6th round gem at QB. Things like that don't happen to us. So while I'm excited about how great Minshew has looked, some part of me is waiting for the inevitable crash back down to Earth. With every passing week that nagging feeling gets less and less but it's still there.
As someone earlier in this thread already stated, it's very possible this will become an easy decision either way. Minshew continues playing great and you obviously make the decision to stay with him. Or NFL defenses figure something out and it's apparent we need to go back to Foles. ________________________________________________ Scouting well is all that matters. Draft philosophy is all fluff.
(10-08-2019, 08:40 AM)rfc17 Wrote: I think I'm too cynical and jaded to actually believe we've stumbled upon a 6th round gem at QB. Things like that don't happen to us. So while I'm excited about how great Minshew has looked, some part of me is waiting for the inevitable crash back down to Earth. With every passing week that nagging feeling gets less and less but it's still there. He's not a one read got lucky QB. His head is on a swivel, he's accurate, has great timing, can read a defense and he LOVES the game. He's the truth.
Not much has changed since I chimed in earlier in this thread.......... except my opinion.
You don't turn back now. If Foles was healthy today you can't go back. Firstly, the fans would be rabid. Secondly the team probably would be taken aback. I hope Foles just retires after this season (as he thought about it before) which clears the cap and makes it easier on the team. I don't think he'll have much trade value with his contract unless a QB needy team has plenty of cap room and we're willing to deal him for a late rounder just to move the contract. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
The question becomes, is Foles objectively better than Minshew?
If you can't definitively answer that with a yes, you can't make the switch.
Go with 15 until Foles can play. Even give Foles additional time to recover. If the Jags are 6-4 when NF is ready, I’d wait until 15 falters. Stay with the hot hand. If Foles doesn’t play this year, so be it. It’s certainly a lot of $$$ to pay a backup.
Trade JR, draft a CB and pick-up a TE. Then trade NF for OL/LB help.
(10-08-2019, 08:40 AM)rfc17 Wrote: I think I'm too cynical and jaded to actually believe we've stumbled upon a 6th round gem at QB. Things like that don't happen to us. So while I'm excited about how great Minshew has looked, some part of me is waiting for the inevitable crash back down to Earth. With every passing week that nagging feeling gets less and less but it's still there. It happened with Mark Brunell - wasn't he a 5th round pick? Between Minshew, Brunell, McCardell, and JSmooth, Coughlin's niche as a personnel man is finding overlooked talent.
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(10-11-2019, 02:08 PM)TheDogCatcher Wrote:(10-08-2019, 08:40 AM)rfc17 Wrote: I think I'm too cynical and jaded to actually believe we've stumbled upon a 6th round gem at QB. Things like that don't happen to us. So while I'm excited about how great Minshew has looked, some part of me is waiting for the inevitable crash back down to Earth. With every passing week that nagging feeling gets less and less but it's still there. Minshew doesn't scream to me a Coughlin pick. Fournette, absolutely. Not Minshew We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (10-11-2019, 02:08 PM)TheDogCatcher Wrote:(10-08-2019, 08:40 AM)rfc17 Wrote: I think I'm too cynical and jaded to actually believe we've stumbled upon a 6th round gem at QB. Things like that don't happen to us. So while I'm excited about how great Minshew has looked, some part of me is waiting for the inevitable crash back down to Earth. With every passing week that nagging feeling gets less and less but it's still there. Brunell was drafted and played for the Packers. ![]() (10-11-2019, 02:10 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote:(10-11-2019, 02:08 PM)TheDogCatcher Wrote: It happened with Mark Brunell - wasn't he a 5th round pick? Between Minshew, Brunell, McCardell, and JSmooth, Coughlin's niche as a personnel man is finding overlooked talent. Rob Johnson - 4th RD - 1995 Mark Brunell - 3rd and 5th RD picks traded to Green Bay - 1995 Johnathan Quinn - 3rd RD - 1998 David Garrard - 4th RD - 2002 He picked up Jay Fiedler too at some point. Coughlin has never been shy churning the wheels at the QB position. Kessler trade the last year or year before last. Dobbs this year. He has to have some level of input in that building with Caldwell. Caldwell didn't even invest another pick at the QB position until Brandon Allen and Tanner Lee and that was after Blake Bortles had been up and down during his first three or four years here. Fournette's selection here absolutely had his fingerprints on it though. He probably saw Fred Taylor 2.0 and started salivating like an old fool. In fairness. The jury is still out on Fournette. Has been as versatile as Kamara and McCaffrey? No. But has he had huge games and showcased talent? Absolutely. ![]() "What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."
(10-11-2019, 02:10 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote:(10-11-2019, 02:08 PM)TheDogCatcher Wrote: It happened with Mark Brunell - wasn't he a 5th round pick? Between Minshew, Brunell, McCardell, and JSmooth, Coughlin's niche as a personnel man is finding overlooked talent. I believe I read that Minshew's interview with Coughlin, and Minshew's approach during that interview, is one of the biggest reasons they drafted him.
(10-11-2019, 02:52 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:(10-11-2019, 02:10 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: Minshew doesn't scream to me a Coughlin pick. I remember reading that Coughlin thought he was bright and quick, Which also makes me doubt he was his pick.. he's always gone for dumb athletic QBs.... Garrard is the big one there. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(10-11-2019, 02:52 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:(10-11-2019, 02:10 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: Minshew doesn't scream to me a Coughlin pick. You don't think perhaps there were more folks in the room besides Coughlin? (10-10-2019, 03:17 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote:(10-08-2019, 08:40 AM)rfc17 Wrote: I think I'm too cynical and jaded to actually believe we've stumbled upon a 6th round gem at QB. Things like that don't happen to us. So while I'm excited about how great Minshew has looked, some part of me is waiting for the inevitable crash back down to Earth. With every passing week that nagging feeling gets less and less but it's still there. If TP is on board, you know he's our guy ![]()
(10-11-2019, 03:25 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: https://twitter.com/TDickman89/status/11...46144?s=19 So... He now owns a full 25% of the rookie of the week honors that will be available this season. I hope it's a runaway.
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