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Should we re-sign Fowler?
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(03-18-2020, 10:08 AM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote:(03-18-2020, 09:43 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: Michael Brockers is so good at rushing the passer he only got 3 sacksLook bro, learn the rules of jag fandom before commenting lol. If you outplay ur team competition in one year even if getting more pt, your the next best rising star. Who cares if Fowler showed up in the playoffs where stars are truly born. Who cares if we had a stacked d line n secondary and yann didnt put up the numbers that elite players should in the scheme. Who cares if Fowler did more with equal talent when played at his right position. Your a jags fan so act like it and keep reminiscing on the past greatness a player showed to make u feel right. Pretty much lol We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(03-18-2020, 10:20 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: People that can't see that Yannick gets pressure consistently by beating Left Tackles one on one, opposed to Fowler getting pressure inconsistently via stunts or being unblocked are very special folks. I can see that and still dont understand the love he gets here. Its ironic that when people talk about sacks and getting to the QB, others think that me an the other side of the debate dont get how it happens, If Yann is beating his man one on one and getting back there then he should be getting sacks. I mean pressures are good but iirc, that was the knock on fowler when he did it. It was he always gets back there but never puts a hand on the qb or is just missing him by a finger tip. yann does it and is heralded because of this. I guess i just need to learn the flow of the curve on player infatuation. If i know who is in praise mode and who is in hate mode then i can fairly assess what the numbers mean. I kind of assumed it was on the Yannick up tick with the comments about him on here but ya'll continue on. I'll be here all year and next offseason to see whether any changes happen or if we are still making excuses.
Season Tix, Section 409
2023 and still counting.....SB will finally be ours soon enough. TLaw aka 'the prince that was promised' supporter. (03-18-2020, 10:38 AM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote:(03-18-2020, 10:20 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: People that can't see that Yannick gets pressure consistently by beating Left Tackles one on one, opposed to Fowler getting pressure inconsistently via stunts or being unblocked are very special folks. Yeah. You are indeed very confused and you don't recall correctly. Discounting consistent pressure and disruption is the calling card of blinding bias in this debate. You can't discount these things when evaluating this position. It would be like looking at INT numbers for CBs but ignoring completion percentage and passses defensed. It's absolutely asinine. This has nothing to do with "player infatuation." I was one of Yan's biggest fans, but it's incredibly difficult to feel that way now. Dude doesn't want to be here. I just think it's glaringly obvious as [BLEEP] that he can beat a tackle one on one a metric [BLEEP] ton better than Dante Fowler can.
(03-18-2020, 10:46 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:(03-18-2020, 10:38 AM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote: I can see that and still dont understand the love he gets here. Its ironic that when people talk about sacks and getting to the QB, others think that me an the other side of the debate dont get how it happens, If Yann is beating his man one on one and getting back there then he should be getting sacks. I mean pressures are good but iirc, that was the knock on fowler when he did it. It was he always gets back there but never puts a hand on the qb or is just missing him by a finger tip. yann does it and is heralded because of this. I guess i just need to learn the flow of the curve on player infatuation. If i know who is in praise mode and who is in hate mode then i can fairly assess what the numbers mean. I kind of assumed it was on the Yannick up tick with the comments about him on here but ya'll continue on. I'll be here all year and next offseason to see whether any changes happen or if we are still making excuses. So funny. Is that why the Patriots put 2 guys on Fowler multiple times in the AFCC? and Fowler still got his 2 sacks. Yan couldn't beat his man once, not even to register a tackle hahahahahaha "opposed to Fowler getting pressure inconsistently via stunts or being unblocked are very special folks" you are so right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MefNJBxgXm8&t=3s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iCMqolanyU (03-18-2020, 11:00 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote:(03-18-2020, 10:46 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Yeah. Yes. Yes, I am right. Thank you. Also, you should probably research the word "consistently." We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(03-18-2020, 11:14 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:(03-18-2020, 11:00 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: So funny. Lame, even for you. I love the no answer for the AFCC game <3
(03-18-2020, 11:22 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:(03-18-2020, 11:17 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: Lame, even for you. Still nothing? ![]() Consistently Fowler has put pressure in playoff gameS. Yan has been unable to do that. 11.5 sacks in a season is not consitent at all yet 8 sacks is elite and constant pressure hahahahha (03-18-2020, 11:26 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote:(03-18-2020, 11:22 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Seriously. A dictionary. Find one. https://www.thefreedictionary.com/ We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(03-18-2020, 11:28 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:(03-18-2020, 11:26 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: Still nothing? Nothing?? too bad.
As I shared earlier, whoever pays Fowler to be a premier piece of their pass rush is going to be sorely disappointed:
https://twitter.com/PFF_Sam/status/1237092627494973442
(03-18-2020, 09:43 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote:(03-18-2020, 04:27 AM)MikePete54 Wrote: No. You don't even know what you are talking about. Clay is 33 yo ? Who cares, he still has it, 8 sacks last season in 13 games. Brockers has never been a pass rusher, he is an elite run stopper DT. That's why Donald and Brockers were an elite Dline last season. Teams were focused on those guys instead of your boy. Yan is a playmaker while Fowler is an opportunist. Nothing bad about it, but playmakers are more important.
(03-18-2020, 11:53 AM)MikePete54 Wrote:(03-18-2020, 09:43 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: Michael Brockers is so good at rushing the passer he only got 3 sacks Yan a playmaker lol, playmakers get paid in the free agency, nobody is offering Yan more than what the Jags are offering haha. Look at Yan sacks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ExMdU0PcRA vs the Jets backup, vs Titans backup and even though is not on the video pretty sure he got one vs the Raiders backup hahahaha dude is so elite We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (03-18-2020, 11:40 AM)Upper Wrote: As I shared earlier, whoever pays Fowler to be a premier piece of their pass rush is going to be sorely disappointed: Yep. Line up Fowler vs any LT you choose in the league and count his pressures. Now do the same with Ngakoue vs the same tackle... I'll bet damn near anything Ngakoue has a much higher pressure percentage. Alas, it looks like the whole damn thing may be moot for Jags fans as we may end up without the services of either. I sure hope Yan comes around to playing on the tag or taking a deal. (03-18-2020, 12:02 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Yep. I don't know how anyone who has ever watched the two of them could come up with any other conclusion.
(03-18-2020, 10:46 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Discounting consistent pressure and disruption is the calling card of blinding bias in this debate. You just described a certain low iq poster here to perfection. The best part, he knows exactly who he is. "ReMeMbEr ThIS OnE GaMe OuT Of 6000 tHaT pRoveS mE rIgHt HuEHuEhUe" ![]() We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Fowler to Atlanta
Falcons get rid of Beasley and upgrade with Fowler. Lol Upper (03-18-2020, 11:40 AM)Upper Wrote: As I shared earlier, whoever pays Fowler to be a premier piece of their pass rush is going to be sorely disappointed: This is why I am a fan of game logs. All of his sacks came against teams that finished in the bottom of pass protection last year. Only exception being San Francisco. Showed up in week one against a beat up Cam Newton and 18th worst ranked Panthers. He feasted on the 27th worst ranked Seahawks. The 24th worst ranked Falcons. Managed 1 sack in 2 games against the 22nd worst ranked Cardinals. Then had a sack and a half against the Bengals. All of that with Aaron Donald & Michael Brockers commanding the most attention on that front four. ![]() "What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."
(03-18-2020, 04:40 PM)Caldrac Wrote:(03-18-2020, 11:40 AM)Upper Wrote: As I shared earlier, whoever pays Fowler to be a premier piece of their pass rush is going to be sorely disappointed: Ngakue 2 sacks vs the Panthers 2 sacks vs the Jets (vs a backup lol) 1 sack vs Indy 1 sack vs Tenn (vs a backup again) 2 sacks vs Oakland (vs a backup) Such consistency... his sacks came in a total of 5 games out of the 15 he played in haha |
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