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(03-19-2020, 01:57 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: Why is the governor delaying closing the Florida beaches?  I believe this is a huge miscalculation which he is ultimately going to regret. Please send back those Generation Z idiots so they can't spread anything else around our state.

Not sure why a beach would be a high risk area unless it's especially crowded. It's been a long time since I've been to a beach where the nearest stranger was camped out less than 10 feet away. People need to get outside, soak up the sun, breathe fresh air, and exercise.


As far as toilet paper is concerned, i think the original run on TP was because people believed it only came from China.



                                                                          

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I agree with you that the beach is not a high-risk area, but it's what goes on after the people leave the beach. They go to bars restaurants vape lounges, etc where they are more likely to spread the virus . My larger point was that these are Spring Breakers, and if you have seen any of the interviews on any of the channels, you can see that quite a few of these people really don't care whether they are potentially infecting anyone or not. It's just all about keeping their spring break partying from being ruined. If you can't act responsibly in this type of atmosphere, then someone needs to step in and act responsibly on your behalf. The governor is not doing that.
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Germany is winning this .... so far...

Over 10,000 infections and only 27 deaths.

Sadly Italy overtook China on deaths... but that's to be expected with so many old people in Italy.
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(03-19-2020, 02:21 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: I agree with you that the beach is not a high-risk area, but it's what goes on after the people leave the beach. They go to bars restaurants vape lounges, etc where they are more likely to spread the virus . My larger point was that these are Spring Breakers, and if you have seen any of the interviews on any of the channels, you can see that quite a few of these people really don't care whether they are potentially infecting anyone or not. It's just all about keeping their spring break partying from being ruined.  If you can't act responsibly in this type of atmosphere, then someone needs to step in and act responsibly on your behalf. The governor is not doing that.

Your're describing the product of our "education" system.  These kids have no clue and only think of themselves.  It shouldn't be up to the governor or any other part of government to enforce common sense.


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So what's the deal with Hydroxychloroquine?

https://www.newsweek.com/hydroxychloroqu...rtnerships
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(03-19-2020, 03:47 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:
(03-19-2020, 02:21 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: I agree with you that the beach is not a high-risk area, but it's what goes on after the people leave the beach. They go to bars restaurants vape lounges, etc where they are more likely to spread the virus . My larger point was that these are Spring Breakers, and if you have seen any of the interviews on any of the channels, you can see that quite a few of these people really don't care whether they are potentially infecting anyone or not. It's just all about keeping their spring break partying from being ruined.  If you can't act responsibly in this type of atmosphere, then someone needs to step in and act responsibly on your behalf. The governor is not doing that.

Your're describing the product of our "education" system.  These kids have no clue and only think of themselves.  It shouldn't be up to the governor or any other part of government to enforce common sense.
Totally agree with you on the product of Education. The problem is, these people are not self-policing or self-governing, and given the situation we're in that seems like the only reasonable solution to protect the greater populace.  Government is supposed to take whatever measures are reasonable to protect us as a population during these types of circumstances. Government most likely will not come up with the ultimate medical solution for the outbreak, but at least they can stop the spread of it with simple measures like this, while they work with the private sector to come up with medical solutions.
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(03-19-2020, 04:09 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: So what's the deal with Hydroxychloroquine?  

https://www.newsweek.com/hydroxychloroqu...rtnerships

Up thread someone posted about the virus and blood types with O being the most resistant. Coincidentally enough, it is the same case with malaria. Other than that, I got nothing. Lol
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Sean Payton just announced he's been diagnosed.  Maybe this will increase the awareness level among football fans.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/coronavirus...45741.html
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(03-19-2020, 04:23 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote:
(03-19-2020, 03:47 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Your're describing the product of our "education" system.  These kids have no clue and only think of themselves.  It shouldn't be up to the governor or any other part of government to enforce common sense.
Totally agree with you on the product of Education. The problem is, these people are not self-policing or self-governing, and given the situation we're in that seems like the only reasonable solution to protect the greater populace.  Government is supposed to take whatever measures are reasonable to protect us as a population during these types of circumstances. Government most likely will not come up with the ultimate medical solution for the outbreak, but at least they can stop the spread of it with simple measures like this, while they work with the private sector to come up with medical solutions.

I'm not sure education plays a role.
Research consistently shows that learning more facts does not help most people assess personal or social risks.  Some people can apply the new facts to their decision-making process, but most, even very smart people, cannot. Plus, some decisions, like "people need to stay in their homes" have to be made as a group anyways
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(03-19-2020, 05:11 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(03-19-2020, 04:23 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: Totally agree with you on the product of Education. The problem is, these people are not self-policing or self-governing, and given the situation we're in that seems like the only reasonable solution to protect the greater populace.  Government is supposed to take whatever measures are reasonable to protect us as a population during these types of circumstances. Government most likely will not come up with the ultimate medical solution for the outbreak, but at least they can stop the spread of it with simple measures like this, while they work with the private sector to come up with medical solutions.

I'm not sure education plays a role.
Research consistently shows that learning more facts does not help most people assess personal or social risks.  Some people can apply the new facts to their decision-making process, but most, even very smart people, cannot.  Plus, some decisions, like "people need to stay in their homes" have to be made as a group anyways

Education doesn't play a role, common sense does. And a lot of these people are clearly demonstrating they that they do not have it. And I'm not sure what you mean by not being able to apply new facts to a decision making process, or why that would even be difficult. If I get the fact that there will only be toilet paper available this Friday at Publix between 8 and 12 a.m., then I would think that 'most' people with thier mental faculties intact could apply those new facts to thier decision-making process, show up at that time and get some toilet paper. What's really going on here is that these people just don't care. They are acting recklessly and selfishly and are interested in nothing more than their own gratification. They're young, they think they're invincible. Most all of us have been there. But this is different than past circumstances have been. As someone said on one of the talk shows, maybe if they're told this is a sexually transmitted disease, then they'll back off a bit and practice more responsible behavior. For some of them I still wouldn't count on it
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Maryland Governor just closed down all enclosed malls...…….
This [BLEEP] is getting rediculous
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(03-19-2020, 06:40 PM)The Drifter Wrote: Maryland Governor just closed down all enclosed malls...…….
This [BLEEP] is getting rediculous
Hogan has actually done a pretty great job. He’s being proactive rather than reacting after the fact.

Also, people still go to malls?
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(03-19-2020, 10:11 AM)TrivialPursuit Wrote:
(03-19-2020, 08:52 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Revoking the First Amendment is WAAAAY beyond "apocalyptic panic" mode.  My answer to that suggestion is

 NO !!!!!!!

Hey I agree... I'm just saying the media is getting to beyond the point of being the catalyst of panic.

Fixed that for you.
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(03-19-2020, 04:09 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: So what's the deal with Hydroxychloroquine?  

https://www.newsweek.com/hydroxychloroqu...rtnerships

Apparently blocks the ability to get pneumonia. I'd pass though. I've had a few deployments that required pre-treatments and daily. Each time I had to stop taking it and just risk it. That stuff gives you very violent and vivid dreams along with hallucinations. Nasty.
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(03-19-2020, 04:09 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: So what's the deal with Hydroxychloroquine?  

https://www.newsweek.com/hydroxychloroqu...rtnerships

I linked to that two days ago. That it only took the US government two days to acknowledge it is a new bureaucratic speed record.

But the FDA head's comment implied that it won't be generally available for a while. Only one or two locales will start out as test grounds. So the bureaucracy still kills.

If someone in my family comes down with COVID-19 I'll be pissed if they refuse to prescribe chloroquine because the FDA hasn't approved it's use in our area yet. If that's the case I'll ask doctor to diagnose malaria in the meantime.

(03-19-2020, 02:21 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: I agree with you that the beach is not a high-risk area, but it's what goes on after the people leave the beach. They go to bars restaurants vape lounges, etc where they are more likely to spread the virus . My larger point was that these are Spring Breakers, and if you have seen any of the interviews on any of the channels, you can see that quite a few of these people really don't care whether they are potentially infecting anyone or not. It's just all about keeping their spring break partying from being ruined.  If you can't act responsibly in this type of atmosphere, then someone needs to step in and act responsibly on your behalf. The governor is not doing that.

DeSantis has closed bars, and limited restaurants to 10 feet between tables.



                                                                          

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Government will blackmail companies for a bailout trying to take some sort of equity stake. The beginning of socialism disguised by a virus.

I heard people making over 95k won't be eligible for the government "handout". That sounds fair.
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So you want to just give free taxpayer money to corporations ? The same ones who have been paying their executives obscene money?

If the government has to give business large amounts of money they should get an equity stake in order to make sure they get some of the money back.
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(03-19-2020, 09:44 PM)lastonealive Wrote: So you want to just give free taxpayer money to corporations ? The same ones who have been paying their executives obscene money?

If the government has to give business large amounts of money they should get an equity stake in order to make sure they get some of the money back.

Do you think your definition is the same as the American Middle Class that extends up to $250k per year? I've always said that politicians have to get around to redistributing from the Middle Class since  that is where most of the money is.
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(03-19-2020, 09:44 PM)lastonealive Wrote: So you want to just give free taxpayer money to corporations ? The same ones who have been paying their executives obscene money?

If the government has to give business large amounts of money they should get an equity stake in order to make sure they get some of the money back.

A bailout is just that. It is our money they are ultimately using for the bailout. Should taxpayers get shares of stock in companies our government sees fit to be saved?
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Once this passes, it'll be interesting to see how the parasitic Morgan & Morgan's of the world will move to exploit this. It's pretty certain that some of the organizations targeted for slow/no response will be 1) Disney, which delayed the closing of their parks for over a week after other institutions were closing, 2) the State of Florida, for STILL not closing 100% of the beaches, including Jax Beaches, 3) owners of various malls around the country, 4) The government of Communist China; for causing, knowing about and then suppressing this since mid to late Dec., 5) any medical provider who 'failed to provide adequate medical care', in spite of being short of meds, equipment, personnel and facilities needed, 6) St Augustine Diocese, who continued to hold services until finally suspending them this evening, or 7) <<fill in the blank>> . We will be replacing a medical virus with a legal one.
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