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My 2020 Final Big Board
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Who is ready to roast my Top 75 Big Board? Haha, this should be my final ranking of players as long as no freak injury comes to light or character concerns.
Notable guys missing: Cole Kmet, Noah Igbinighene, Terrell Lewis, Troy Pride Jr, Jalen Hurts, Jonathan Greenard, Isaiah Wilson, Ben Bredeson, Ezra Cleveland, Michael Pittman Jr, Hunter Bryant, Brycen Hopkins, Netane Muti, Tyler Johnson, Ben Bartch, and Nick Harris. I'm not saying these guys would be next.....just some bigger name guys not on here. Some would in the next 25. Notable guys who are lower than most: Justin Herbert, Josh Jones, Jordan Love, D'Andre Swift, Austin Jackson, and Trevon Diggs Notable guys who are higher than most: CeeDee Lamb, Patrick Queen, Antoine Winfield Jr, Bryce Hall, Cam Akers, Davon Hamilton, Matt Hennessy, Amik Robertson, Leki Fotu, and Antonio Gibson 1. Chase Young 2. Joe Burrow 3. Jeff Okudah 4. Jedrick Willis 5. CeeDee Lamb 6. Derick Brown 7. Isiah Simmons 8. Andrew Thomas 9. Jerry Jeudy 10. Tua Tagovaila 11. Henry Ruggs III 12. CJ Henderson 13. Javon Kinlaw 14. Tristan Wirfs(would be 8 if he was a Guard) 15. Patrick Queen 16. Mekhi Becton 17. K'Lavon Chaisson 18. A.J Epenesa 19. Xavier McKinney 20. Antoine Winfield Jr. 21. Jeff Gladney 22. Kenneth Murray 23. Cesar Ruiz 24. Justin Herbert 25. Zack Baun 26. Kristian Fulton 27. Neville Gallimore 28. Grant Delpit 29. Ross Blacklock 30. Justin Madubuike 31. Justin Jefferson 32. Laviska Shenault Jr. 33. D'Andre Swift 34. JK Dobbins 35. Denzel Mims 36. Lucas Niang 37. Tee Higgins 38. Yetur Gross-Matos 39. Bryce Hall 40. K.J Hamler 41. Ashtyn Davis 42. Cam Akers 43. Davon Hamilton 44. Jalen Reagor 45. Lloyd Cushenberry III 46. Clyde Edwards-Helaire 47. Josh Jones 48. A.J Terrell 49. Jonathan Taylor 50. Brandon Aiyuk 51. Damon Arnette 52. Marlon Davidson 53. Curtis Weaver 54. Matt Hennessy 55. Joshua Uche 56. Donovan Peoples-Jones 57. Jaylon Johnson 58. Jeremy Chinn 59. Julian Okwara 60. Malik Harrison 61. Cameron Dantzler 62. Austin Jackson 63. Trevon Diggs 64. Prince Taga Wanogho 65. Jonah Jackson 66. Kyle Dugger 67. Raekwon Davis 68. Robert Hunt 69. Amik Robertson 70. Bradlee Anae 71. Leki Fotu 72. Antonio Gibson 73. Adam Trautman 74. Jordan Love 75. Van Jefferson We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
I'm surprised you have Justin Herbert at 24. I know this is a "big board" ranking, and not a prediction of where they will be picked, but it's worth noting, I think the Dolphins are going to take him at 5.
(04-17-2020, 06:32 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I'm surprised you have Justin Herbert at 24. I know this is a "big board" ranking, and not a prediction of where they will be picked, but it's worth noting, I think the Dolphins are going to take him at 5. I like Herbert better than Tua. I he had the RBs, oline, and, WRs Tua did I think he would of been 2nd in the Heisman running behind Burrow and would if won a NT or 2 (04-17-2020, 07:31 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:(04-17-2020, 06:32 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I'm surprised you have Justin Herbert at 24. I know this is a "big board" ranking, and not a prediction of where they will be picked, but it's worth noting, I think the Dolphins are going to take him at 5. Oregon had a top 5 offensive line and great RB room. WRs a massive gulf for sure as he had nobody. and herbert rarely came up with big moments when oregon needed him We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(04-17-2020, 07:48 AM)JackCity Wrote:(04-17-2020, 07:31 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I like Herbert better than Tua. I he had the RBs, oline, and, WRs Tua did I think he would of been 2nd in the Heisman running behind Burrow and would if won a NT or 2 None of his position groups are close to Alabama although Bama does play tougher competition. I have just seen Tua fail when pressured not to mention his WRs won't be running wide open. (04-17-2020, 07:57 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:(04-17-2020, 07:48 AM)JackCity Wrote: Oregon had a top 5 offensive line and great RB room. WRs a massive gulf for sure as he had nobody. and herbert rarely came up with big moments when oregon needed him their line was as good as bamas was this year in college, top 3 unit, not talking NFL prospect wise even though they have a generational LT too. Herbert has a slow processor and isn't that accurate so i'm quite lower on him as those QBs rarely amount to anything vs Tua huge red flag https://twitter.com/PFF_Mike/status/1249719196793126912
(04-17-2020, 08:14 AM)JackCity Wrote:I never said he's a finished product. I do think Tua is a safer pick but you also better have a much better online. Oregon online isn't close to Alabama. Alabama had 2 of the best OTs, the best guard in college and their other 2 starters weren't bad either.(04-17-2020, 07:57 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: None of his position groups are close to Alabama although Bama does play tougher competition. I have just seen Tua fail when pressured not to mention his WRs won't be running wide open. (04-17-2020, 08:25 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:(04-17-2020, 08:14 AM)JackCity Wrote: their line was as good as bamas was this year in college, top 3 unit, not talking NFL prospect wise even though they have a generational LT too. Herbert has a slow processor and isn't that accurate so i'm quite lower on him as those QBs rarely amount to anything vs TuaI never said he's a finished product. I do think Tua is a safer pick but you also better have a much better online. Oregon online isn't close to Alabama. Alabama had 2 of the best OTs, the best guard in college and their other 2 starters weren't bad either. Not sure if you watch other college football teams but Oregons line was highly regarded by everyone as a top 3 unit up there with LSU and Bama in 2019. I'd take Bamas line but it was close enough not to matter much. Point being, Herbert had crazy good line and still was meh, was a finalist for best line in the country We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Per Oregon v Bama OL
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/...allol/2019 What I'm surprised about this board is how high Willis and Lamb are. And why Wirfs is so low, if he could be higher as a G, list him higher and perceive him to be able to play G or T, it isn't like he is going to refuse to play G lol
(04-17-2020, 10:39 AM)JackCity Wrote:(04-17-2020, 08:25 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I never said he's a finished product. I do think Tua is a safer pick but you also better have a much better online. Oregon online isn't close to Alabama. Alabama had 2 of the best OTs, the best guard in college and their other 2 starters weren't bad either. I don't really care what the stats say. Alabama 's online is almost always dominant and they always have elite WRs along with elite RBs. Makes the QBs life much easier. I don't recall Tua throwing into to many tight windows and I have seen him the few times he did get pressure, not to.mention his injury history. (04-17-2020, 08:25 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:Wait.... I thought Tua wasn’t safe because of injury concerns?(04-17-2020, 08:14 AM)JackCity Wrote: their line was as good as bamas was this year in college, top 3 unit, not talking NFL prospect wise even though they have a generational LT too. Herbert has a slow processor and isn't that accurate so i'm quite lower on him as those QBs rarely amount to anything vs TuaI never said he's a finished product. I do think Tua is a safer pick but you also better have a much better online. Oregon online isn't close to Alabama. Alabama had 2 of the best OTs, the best guard in college and their other 2 starters weren't bad either. Oregon’s line was insane and both their tackles were incredible this past season. Also, how come no other QB in Bamas history was doing what Tua did?
(04-17-2020, 12:05 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:(04-17-2020, 08:25 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I never said he's a finished product. I do think Tua is a safer pick but you also better have a much better online. Oregon online isn't close to Alabama. Alabama had 2 of the best OTs, the best guard in college and their other 2 starters weren't bad either.Wait.... I thought Tua wasn’t safe because of injury concerns? This true, he's not safe. Because they have turned into more of a passing team and almost every WR they have is a first round talent. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (04-17-2020, 12:15 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:They’ve always had elite skill player talent. The only difference is that they never had a QB like Tua. They changed their offense for him.(04-17-2020, 12:05 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Wait.... I thought Tua wasn’t safe because of injury concerns? From a skill standpoint, Tua is better than Burrow. However, Tua does have injury concerns.
(04-17-2020, 12:20 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:Tua isn't better than Burrow and they have never had the depth at the WR position like they have has the last few years. Like I said, pretty much every WR they have is a 1st round talent. Ruggs, Jeudy, Smith, Waddle a 1st round WAS. When did they have that many 1st round WRs ? I think Tua is one of the guys the media is higher on than real GMs. Could be wrong but we will see next week(04-17-2020, 12:15 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: This true, he's not safe. Because they have turned into more of a passing team and almost every WR they have is a first round talent.They’ve always had elite skill player talent. The only difference is that they never had a QB like Tua. They changed their offense for him. (04-17-2020, 12:39 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:When it comes to throwing the football, Tua is better.(04-17-2020, 12:20 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: They’ve always had elite skill player talent. The only difference is that they never had a QB like Tua. They changed their offense for him.Tua isn't better than Burrow and they have never had the depth at the WR position like they have has the last few years. Like I said, pretty much every WR they have is a 1st round talent. Ruggs, Jeudy, Smith, Waddle a 1st round WAS. When did they have that many 1st round WRs ? I think Tua is one of the guys the media is higher on than real GMs. Could be wrong but we will see next week And everything you use against Tua, should be used against Burrow too.
(04-17-2020, 02:30 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:(04-17-2020, 12:39 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Tua isn't better than Burrow and they have never had the depth at the WR position like they have has the last few years. Like I said, pretty much every WR they have is a 1st round talent. Ruggs, Jeudy, Smith, Waddle a 1st round WAS. When did they have that many 1st round WRs ? I think Tua is one of the guys the media is higher on than real GMs. Could be wrong but we will see next weekWhen it comes to throwing the football, Tua is better. Other than Jefferson and Chase what other 1st round WRs do they have? Tua wishes he could throw the football like Burrow We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (04-15-2020, 11:10 PM)ColoJag Wrote: Who is ready to roast my Top 75 Big Board? Haha, this should be my final ranking of players as long as no freak injury comes to light or character concerns. Good job with this. Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
(04-17-2020, 03:56 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:You only have recency bias dude. You said absolutely nothing about Burrow a year ago.(04-17-2020, 02:30 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: When it comes to throwing the football, Tua is better. And I know you’ve seen Tua play so you know he has everything you want in a QB from an arm standpoint. He’s accurate to every hash mark, arm strength is better than Joes and leads receivers open. From a pure throwing standpoint, Tua is better than Joe.
(04-17-2020, 06:15 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:(04-17-2020, 03:56 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Other than Jefferson and Chase what other 1st round WRs do they have? Tua wishes he could throw the football like BurrowYou only have recency bias dude. You said absolutely nothing about Burrow a year ago. And then he woke up |
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