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Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged)

(This post was last modified: 06-02-2020, 09:05 AM by leopold332002.)

(06-02-2020, 07:41 AM)hb1148 Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 06:24 AM)leopold332002 Wrote: Tad Dickman is that you? My good friend I don't see nothing wrong with D-Money last post and yet, according to you, he has to be yannick butt kisser because he hasn't turned on him like every other salty Jaguar fan. This organization is unorganized and unprofessional right now but fans like some on this message board praise them like they stuff don't stink. We all have to do better as a franchise and fan base but it needs to start with the organization first based on the way they have been doing things.

"Turn on him". Meaning that they think overpaying for him is a bad idea I guess. Many fans think they made the right decision letting Calais go, so I guess they're turning on him as well. Listen, Yan's attitude notwithstanding, that's what happens in the league: turnover. Most people would rather have Yan on the team than not but he's not wanting to play here anymore for any amount of money. Let it go.
Well, it seems so funny that not too long ago we had many Jaguar fans chanting and posting pay yannick on message forums and social media platforms. It was when he started making ill-advised and controversial tweets when all of a sudden now Jaguar fans feel like yannick getting paid a bad idea in the first place. This is why I said Jaguar fans are salty because if not salty, we as a fanbase would have the same opinion about yan if he never tweeted those controversial comments and just kept his head down and went about his business.
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(06-02-2020, 08:52 AM)leopold332002 Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 08:19 AM)Rico Wrote: Unorganized and unprofessional.  LOL.

Yep.  Yannick's tweets were the epitome of professionalism.

Lol. I'm glad that I entertain you especially when it seemed very interesting that you try to post rebuttals on everything that I say. For the record, I don't want yannick here anymore either but I'm not going to condemn anyone who still supports him despite yannick's feelings on this organization. This franchise is unprofessional and unorganized and if you feel anything differently then that say a lot about your evaluation on successful franchises. Our franchise track record for the last decade speaks for itself and I'm not going to blame players who no longer want to play for this organization because of it.

Exactly, maybe its the emotion that has some people not thinking clearly. After all these years of losing, sometimes I question if I still want to be a fan with all of the terrible years and horrible decisions by the front office. I could imagine a player that only has a few years of their prime trying to win and get money before their window closes.

We really should just see what we can get and let him go to the highest bidder and make sure we keep our young talent happy this time around.


(06-02-2020, 09:03 AM)leopold332002 Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 07:41 AM)hb1148 Wrote: "Turn on him". Meaning that they think overpaying for him is a bad idea I guess. Many fans think they made the right decision letting Calais go, so I guess they're turning on him as well. Listen, Yan's attitude notwithstanding, that's what happens in the league: turnover. Most people would rather have Yan on the team than not but he's not wanting to play here anymore for any amount of money. Let it go.
Well, it seems so funny that not too long ago we had many Jaguar fans chanting and posting pay yannick on message forums and social media platforms. It was when he started making ill-advised and controversial tweets when all of a sudden now Jaguar fans feel like yannick getting paid a bad idea in the first place. This is why I said Jaguar fans are salty because if not salty, we as a fanbase would have the same opinion about yan if he never tweeted those controversial comments and just kept his head down and went about his business.

To be fair, some of the fans that believe he should be paid whatever he wants are probably still holding that opinion. I just think the ill-advised tweets demonstrated that his outlook maybe isn't as connected with reality as some of them were thinking.  But Jag Nation is comprised of individuals and not everyone feels the same way.
I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you.

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(06-02-2020, 08:52 AM)leopold332002 Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 08:19 AM)Rico Wrote: Unorganized and unprofessional.  LOL.

Yep.  Yannick's tweets were the epitome of professionalism.

Lol. I'm glad that I entertain you especially when it seemed very interesting that you try to post rebuttals on everything that I say. For the record, I don't want yannick here anymore either but I'm not going to condemn anyone who still supports him despite yannick's feelings on this organization. This franchise is unprofessional and unorganized and if you feel anything differently then that say a lot about your evaluation on successful franchises. Our franchise track record for the last decade speaks for itself and I'm not going to blame players who no longer want to play for this organization because of it.

What fantasy world do you live in?  For the most part I avoided all of your ridiculous takes on Blakey.  And I only responded to the first one in this thread because I'm reaaaallllllly curious how they are 'unprofessional' or 'unorganized'.  Oh....I know, I know.  Because you think so. 

Please expand on how they are 'unprofessional'.  This should be good.
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(06-02-2020, 10:51 AM)hb1148 Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 09:03 AM)leopold332002 Wrote: Well, it seems so funny that not too long ago we had many Jaguar fans chanting and posting pay yannick on message forums and social media platforms. It was when he started making ill-advised and controversial tweets when all of a sudden now Jaguar fans feel like yannick getting paid a bad idea in the first place. This is why I said Jaguar fans are salty because if not salty, we as a fanbase would have the same opinion about yan if he never tweeted those controversial comments and just kept his head down and went about his business.

To be fair, some of the fans that believe he should be paid whatever he wants are probably still holding that opinion. I just think the ill-advised tweets demonstrated that his outlook maybe isn't as connected with reality as some of them were thinking.  But Jag Nation is comprised of individuals and not everyone feels the same way.
That's fair and let me clarify that I know not every Jacksonville Jaguar fan feel that way. However, there are enough of them with that type of mentality and not pointing the blame to where it really belongs which is the front office of the franchise itself.
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(06-02-2020, 10:51 AM)hb1148 Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 09:03 AM)leopold332002 Wrote: Well, it seems so funny that not too long ago we had many Jaguar fans chanting and posting pay yannick on message forums and social media platforms. It was when he started making ill-advised and controversial tweets when all of a sudden now Jaguar fans feel like yannick getting paid a bad idea in the first place. This is why I said Jaguar fans are salty because if not salty, we as a fanbase would have the same opinion about yan if he never tweeted those controversial comments and just kept his head down and went about his business.

To be fair, some of the fans that believe he should be paid whatever he wants are probably still holding that opinion. I just think the ill-advised tweets demonstrated that his outlook maybe isn't as connected with reality as some of them were thinking.  But Jag Nation is comprised of individuals and not everyone feels the same way.

I want nothing more than Yan here for a career, I'll fly over and do his laundry if that would help!

But I'm tired of all the cryptic messages. It was the same with Ramsey 'I like everyone but one person', just say what the deal is. I just want to know why Yan wants out so bad and why it cant be resolved. Was it Coughlin? The coaches? Khan? The team? The city?. 

Have some respect for the fans and be honest, people can surprise you but this roster is 53 not 1.


(06-02-2020, 11:24 AM)Rico Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 08:52 AM)leopold332002 Wrote: Lol. I'm glad that I entertain you especially when it seemed very interesting that you try to post rebuttals on everything that I say. For the record, I don't want yannick here anymore either but I'm not going to condemn anyone who still supports him despite yannick's feelings on this organization. This franchise is unprofessional and unorganized and if you feel anything differently then that say a lot about your evaluation on successful franchises. Our franchise track record for the last decade speaks for itself and I'm not going to blame players who no longer want to play for this organization because of it.

What fantasy world do you live in?  For the most part I avoided all of your ridiculous takes on Blakey.  And I only responded to the first one in this thread because I'm reaaaallllllly curious how they are 'unprofessional' or 'unorganized'.  Oh....I know, I know.  Because you think so. 

Please expand on how they are 'unprofessional'.  This should be good.
Right now, you're being unprofessional and I'm not going to continue to go back and forth with people like yourself. My advice to you is to grow up and find somebody else to play with because I'm not that person. I already mentioned  on the message forum previously that i was wrong about Blake and I haven't mentioned him for quite some time. If you still want to hold on to that narrative because it gets you aroused then that's your prerogative. I'm not going to continue to do this back and forth with you so find somebody else to troll at this time.
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(06-02-2020, 11:31 AM)leopold332002 Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 10:51 AM)hb1148 Wrote: To be fair, some of the fans that believe he should be paid whatever he wants are probably still holding that opinion. I just think the ill-advised tweets demonstrated that his outlook maybe isn't as connected with reality as some of them were thinking.  But Jag Nation is comprised of individuals and not everyone feels the same way.
That's fair and let me clarify that I know not every Jacksonville Jaguar fan feel that way. However, there are enough of them with that type of mentality and not pointing the blame to where it really belongs which is the front office of the franchise itself.

I too would like to know how that makes the FO unprofessional?

(This post was last modified: 06-02-2020, 12:29 PM by leopold332002.)

(06-02-2020, 12:13 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 10:51 AM)hb1148 Wrote: To be fair, some of the fans that believe he should be paid whatever he wants are probably still holding that opinion. I just think the ill-advised tweets demonstrated that his outlook maybe isn't as connected with reality as some of them were thinking.  But Jag Nation is comprised of individuals and not everyone feels the same way.

I want nothing more than Yan here for a career, I'll fly over and do his laundry if that would help!

But I'm tired of all the cryptic messages. It was the same with Ramsey 'I like everyone but one person', just say what the deal is. I just want to know why Yan wants out so bad and why it cant be resolved. Was it Coughlin? The coaches? Khan? The team? The city?. 

Have some respect for the fans and be honest, people can surprise you but this roster is 53 not 1.

I understand and respect your frustration my good man and after reading your post the next question you need to ask yourself is why are the players being turned off by this organization? It's not city that makes players want to run away because we allow them to live normal lives and not smother them but instead, we show them respect and class as professional athletes. Its the organization failure and the way they do things because they settle for mediocrity instead of trying to strive for greatness as an NFL franchise.
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(06-02-2020, 12:17 PM)scottyg Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 11:31 AM)leopold332002 Wrote: That's fair and let me clarify that I know not every Jacksonville Jaguar fan feel that way. However, there are enough of them with that type of mentality and not pointing the blame to where it really belongs which is the front office of the franchise itself.

I too would like to know how that makes the FO unprofessional?

Okay, let me explain it to you for one thing, when they underachieve as a franchise instead of blaming themselves you have Shad Khan blaming the fans for their lack of support instead of putting the blame where it truly belongs. Tony Khan, our future owner having arguments with Yannick on Twitter when no other ownership group conduct themselves that way. When Tom Coughlin was acting like a madman as a VP with unnecessary fines and suspensions, only ship knew about it and stood by instead of doing the right thing. Lastly, the franchise success themselves is like it and they're our willingness to do the right thing and clean house. This is why I say the franchise is unprofessional based on those factors my friend.
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(06-02-2020, 12:26 PM)leopold332002 Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 12:17 PM)scottyg Wrote: I too would like to know how that makes the FO unprofessional?

Okay, let me explain it to you for one thing, when they underachieve as a franchise instead of blaming themselves you have Shad Khan blaming the fans for their lack of support instead of putting the blame where it truly belongs. Tony Khan, our future owner having arguments with Yannick on Twitter when no other ownership group conduct themselves that way. When Tom Coughlin was acting like a madman as a VP with unnecessary fines and suspensions, only ship knew about it and stood by instead of doing the right thing. Lastly, the franchise success themselves is like it and they're our willingness to do the right thing and clean house. This is why I say the franchise is unprofessional based on those factors my friend.

I don't think Shad Khan has EVER blamed the fans for lack of support.


(06-02-2020, 12:28 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 12:26 PM)leopold332002 Wrote: Okay, let me explain it to you for one thing, when they underachieve as a franchise instead of blaming themselves you have Shad Khan blaming the fans for their lack of support instead of putting the blame where it truly belongs. Tony Khan, our future owner having arguments with Yannick on Twitter when no other ownership group conduct themselves that way. When Tom Coughlin was acting like a madman as a VP with unnecessary fines and suspensions, only ship knew about it and stood by instead of doing the right thing. Lastly, the franchise success themselves is like it and they're our willingness to do the right thing and clean house. This is why I say the franchise is unprofessional based on those factors my friend.

I don't think Shad Khan has EVER blamed the fans for lack of support.

Oh yes he did and he done this in the article where he explains why he moved a game in London.
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(06-02-2020, 12:31 PM)leopold332002 Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 12:28 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: I don't think Shad Khan has EVER blamed the fans for lack of support.

Oh yes he did and he done this in the article where he explains why he moved a game in London.

Misinterpretation.  ^ 

He's praised fans for turning out to support the team despite a poor product, but he's labeled the "market" as unable to keep up with the rest of the league. That includes attendance - but is much more about ticket prices being a fraction of what larger markets pay.

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(This post was last modified: 06-02-2020, 03:20 PM by RicoTx.)

(06-02-2020, 12:14 PM)leopold332002 Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 11:24 AM)Rico Wrote: What fantasy world do you live in?  For the most part I avoided all of your ridiculous takes on Blakey.  And I only responded to the first one in this thread because I'm reaaaallllllly curious how they are 'unprofessional' or 'unorganized'.  Oh....I know, I know.  Because you think so. 

Please expand on how they are 'unprofessional'.  This should be good.
Right now, you're being unprofessional and I'm not going to continue to go back and forth with people like yourself. My advice to you is to grow up and find somebody else to play with because I'm not that person. I already mentioned  on the message forum previously that i was wrong about Blake and I haven't mentioned him for quite some time. If you still want to hold on to that narrative because it gets you aroused then that's your prerogative. I'm not going to continue to do this back and forth with you so find somebody else to troll at this time.

Well, you do keep responding so apparently you need to heed your own advice.

I'm still looking for even a single example of how they are 'unprofessional'.  Or even 'unorganized'.  Especially the unprofessional part.  I'm truly baffled.

How is it trolling when I just want an answer to what you are claiming?  And good God, how can you be unprofessional on a message board.
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(06-02-2020, 03:18 PM)Rico Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 12:14 PM)leopold332002 Wrote: Right now, you're being unprofessional and I'm not going to continue to go back and forth with people like yourself. My advice to you is to grow up and find somebody else to play with because I'm not that person. I already mentioned  on the message forum previously that i was wrong about Blake and I haven't mentioned him for quite some time. If you still want to hold on to that narrative because it gets you aroused then that's your prerogative. I'm not going to continue to do this back and forth with you so find somebody else to troll at this time.

Well, you do keep responding so apparently you need to heed your own advice.

I'm still looking for even a single example of how they are 'unprofessional'.  Or even 'unorganized'.  Especially the unprofessional part.  I'm truly baffled.

How is it trolling when I just want an answer to what you are claiming?  And good God, how can you be unprofessional on a message board.

Okay my good man read Scotty G reply when I post it to him about the same question you asked me.
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(06-02-2020, 12:14 PM)leopold332002 Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 11:24 AM)Rico Wrote: What fantasy world do you live in?  For the most part I avoided all of your ridiculous takes on Blakey.  And I only responded to the first one in this thread because I'm reaaaallllllly curious how they are 'unprofessional' or 'unorganized'.  Oh....I know, I know.  Because you think so. 

Please expand on how they are 'unprofessional'.  This should be good.
Right now, you're being unprofessional and I'm not going to continue to go back and forth with people like yourself. My advice to you is to grow up and find somebody else to play with because I'm not that person. I already mentioned  on the message forum previously that i was wrong about Blake and I haven't mentioned him for quite some time. If you still want to hold on to that narrative because it gets you aroused then that's your prerogative (super mature line, well done). I'm not going to continue to do this back and forth with you so find somebody else to troll at this time.

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(06-02-2020, 04:12 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 12:14 PM)leopold332002 Wrote: Right now, you're being unprofessional and I'm not going to continue to go back and forth with people like yourself. My advice to you is to grow up and find somebody else to play with because I'm not that person. I already mentioned  on the message forum previously that i was wrong about Blake and I haven't mentioned him for quite some time. If you still want to hold on to that narrative because it gets you aroused then that's your prerogative (super mature line, well done). I'm not going to continue to do this back and forth with you so find somebody else to troll at this time.

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My good man, feel free to ignore my post if you don't like what I have to say. Please don't act like a cartoon character and ignore me if what I got to say bothers you.
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(06-02-2020, 04:26 PM)leopold332002 Wrote: My good man, feel free to ignore my post if you don't like what I have to say. Please don't act like a cartoon character and ignore me if what I got to say bothers you.

Am I being "unprofessional"?

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(06-02-2020, 04:06 PM)leopold332002 Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 03:18 PM)Rico Wrote: Well, you do keep responding so apparently you need to heed your own advice.

I'm still looking for even a single example of how they are 'unprofessional'.  Or even 'unorganized'.  Especially the unprofessional part.  I'm truly baffled.

How is it trolling when I just want an answer to what you are claiming?  And good God, how can you be unprofessional on a message board.

Okay my good man read Scotty G reply when I post it to him about the same question you asked me.

Pfffft.  Whatever.  If that's unprofessional....never mind.
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(06-02-2020, 04:29 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 04:26 PM)leopold332002 Wrote: My good man, feel free to ignore my post if you don't like what I have to say. Please don't act like a cartoon character and ignore me if what I got to say bothers you.

Am I being "unprofessional"?

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Are you being unprofessional? You're going out your way to troll me so be a man and not a coward and say what's your beef with me. As far as I'm concerned,  I'm not bothering you  so if you got a problem everything could be solved with a conversation.
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