Bring Ozzie Newsome out of retirement.  The dude was incredible with the Ravens.  I think he had Gene Smith's phone number on speed dial as the Jags are personally responsible for a portion of their success.

OR

Pay Belichick $15m to be the GM and Head Coach.

Good god, no. Absolutely not.

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Bring Ozzie Newsome out of retirement.  The dude was incredible with the Ravens.  I think he had Gene Smith's phone number on speed dial as the Jags are personally responsible for a portion of their success.

OR

Pay Belichick $15m to be the GM and Head Coach.

Good god, no. Absolutely not.

He makes $20 million now and he's under contract. He also isn't particularly good with personnel selection.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I think we've recently seen that it was Belichick riding Brady's coat tails, not the other way around..

Dude is just a name now without Brady..

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I’d take Belichick at HC

Bienemy at OC

Wade Phillips or Romeo Crenell at DC

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I think we've recently seen that it was Belichick riding Brady's coat tails, not the other way around..

Dude is just a name now without Brady..

Not true at all, it took both of them for that dynasty to work.


Sure, Brady is still doing well. But he’s not excelling. He’s on a loaded team and only managed to go 11-5. He won’t go to the super bowl and will probably be 1 and done in the playoffs. 

Impossible to win in this league with no talent and no QB, which is what Belichick has right now.

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I'd be happy with any of these guys:

Bienemy
Arthur Smith
Daboll
Meyer

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That's where I am.

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1345445001816227840

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I think we've recently seen that it was Belichick riding Brady's coat tails, not the other way around..

Dude is just a name now without Brady..

Not true at all, it took both of them for that dynasty to work.


Sure, Brady is still doing well. But he’s not excelling. He’s on a loaded team and only managed to go 11-5. He won’t go to the super bow and will probably be 1 and done in the playoffs. 

Impossible to win in this league with no talent and no QB, which is what Belichick has right now.

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I’d take Belichick at HC

Bienemy at OC

Wade Phillips or Romeo Crenell at DC

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I think we've recently seen that it was Belichick riding Brady's coat tails, not the other way around..

Dude is just a name now without Brady..

Not true at all, it took both of them for that dynasty to work.


Sure, Brady is still doing well. But he’s not excelling. He’s on a loaded team and only managed to go 11-5. He won’t go to the super bowl and will probably be 1 and done in the playoffs. 

Impossible to win in this league with no talent and no QB, which is what Belichick has right now.

You...uh, do know that the Bucs play the No Name Team Saturday, right?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I’d take Belichick at HC

Bienemy at OC

Wade Phillips or Romeo Crenell at DC

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I think we've recently seen that it was Belichick riding Brady's coat tails, not the other way around..

Dude is just a name now without Brady..

Not true at all, it took both of them for that dynasty to work.


Sure, Brady is still doing well. But he’s not excelling. He’s on a loaded team and only managed to go 11-5. He won’t go to the super bowl and will probably be 1 and done in the playoffs. 

Impossible to win in this league with no talent and no QB, which is what Belichick has right now.

No, I think it's perfectly true in my opinion. Belichick rode Brady's coat tails to multiple titles.

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Let's see what Google says about Belichicks numbers with Brady and without..

"In all, Belichick is 219-64 with Brady at starting quarterback and 60-71 without him, including a 36-44 record in Cleveland. This is his third season in New England without Brady at quarterback, and in those years the Patriots are 22-24, missing the playoffs all three times."

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Daboll still for me

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I’d take Belichick at HC

Bienemy at OC

Wade Phillips or Romeo Crenell at DC

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I think we've recently seen that it was Belichick riding Brady's coat tails, not the other way around..

Dude is just a name now without Brady..

Not true at all, it took both of them for that dynasty to work.


Sure, Brady is still doing well. But he’s not excelling. He’s on a loaded team and only managed to go 11-5. He won’t go to the super bowl and will probably be 1 and done in the playoffs. 

Impossible to win in this league with no talent and no QB, which is what Belichick has right now.

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1346252833125969924?s=19

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I’d take Belichick at HC

Bienemy at OC

Wade Phillips or Romeo Crenell at DC

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Not true at all, it took both of them for that dynasty to work.


Sure, Brady is still doing well. But he’s not excelling. He’s on a loaded team and only managed to go 11-5. He won’t go to the super bowl and will probably be 1 and done in the playoffs. 

Impossible to win in this league with no talent and no QB, which is what Belichick has right now.

No, I think it's perfectly true in my opinion. Belichick rode Brady's coat tails to multiple titles.

I feel people are forgetting how many of those titles were also won because of Belichick's defenses. It was not just Brady. 

No doubt, he has definitely failed as an offensive talent evaluator over the past few seasons. But what made Belichick great was getting the most out of the players he had, and having great or vastly over-achieving defenses.

This year, 2 of their star defensive players opted out, and Gilmore was in and out of the line up.  Given how bad their offense was, it is a miracle they won 7 games and more than half their wins were against teams above 0.500.

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I think we've recently seen that it was Belichick riding Brady's coat tails, not the other way around..

Dude is just a name now without Brady..

Not true at all, it took both of them for that dynasty to work.


Sure, Brady is still doing well. But he’s not excelling. He’s on a loaded team and only managed to go 11-5. He won’t go to the super bow and will probably be 1 and done in the playoffs. 

Impossible to win in this league with no talent and no QB, which is what Belichick has right now.

They have no talent because BB is worse at drafting than Gene Smith and had all of that team's deficiencies covered up by Brady. He hasn't drafted a pro bowl player (besides their current PUNTER) since 2013

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I still think Pete Carmichael Jr. would make a good coach.  Surprised he hasn't been a coach yet tbh.

He’s done all of his notable work under Sean Payton and with Drew Brees. I’m sure that plays into it. Jedd Fisch could win 9 games with Brees under center.

A related factor could be the failure of Saints QB Coach Joe Lombardi as Lions Offensive Coordinator under Jim Caldwell. Lombardi was fired after game # 7 in his 2nd season in that role. Sean Payton rehired Lombardi as QB Coach in 2016. 

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I think we've recently seen that it was Belichick riding Brady's coat tails, not the other way around..

Dude is just a name now without Brady..

Really? You gather that because he went 7-9 with garbage Cam Newton?

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I think we've recently seen that it was Belichick riding Brady's coat tails, not the other way around..

Dude is just a name now without Brady..

Really? You gather that because he went 7-9 with garbage Cam Newton?

Apparently you haven't been reading any of my other posts in this thread..

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Let's see what Google says about Belichicks numbers with Brady and without..

"In all, Belichick is 219-64 with Brady at starting quarterback and 60-71 without him, including a 36-44 record in Cleveland. This is his third season in New England without Brady at quarterback, and in those years the Patriots are 22-24, missing the playoffs all three times."

ok, so we just hire Belichick as GM and Brady as HC since Belichick has a great record with Brady.

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I’d take Belichick at HC

Bienemy at OC

Wade Phillips or Romeo Crenell at DC

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Not true at all, it took both of them for that dynasty to work.


Sure, Brady is still doing well. But he’s not excelling. He’s on a loaded team and only managed to go 11-5. He won’t go to the super bowl and will probably be 1 and done in the playoffs. 

Impossible to win in this league with no talent and no QB, which is what Belichick has right now.

You...uh, do know that the Bucs play the No Name Team Saturday, right?

I meant in a real playoff game, not whatever crap you call the Washington Football Team.

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Let's see what Google says about Belichicks numbers with Brady and without..

"In all, Belichick is 219-64 with Brady at starting quarterback and 60-71 without him, including a 36-44 record in Cleveland. This is his third season in New England without Brady at quarterback, and in those years the Patriots are 22-24, missing the playoffs all three times."

ok, so we just hire Belichick as GM and Brady as HC since Belichick has a great record with Brady.

Sure.. why not..

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Daboll still for me

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I’d take Belichick at HC

Bienemy at OC

Wade Phillips or Romeo Crenell at DC

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Not true at all, it took both of them for that dynasty to work.


Sure, Brady is still doing well. But he’s not excelling. He’s on a loaded team and only managed to go 11-5. He won’t go to the super bowl and will probably be 1 and done in the playoffs. 

Impossible to win in this league with no talent and no QB, which is what Belichick has right now.

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1346252833125969924?s=19

PFF stats are made up and irrelevant. Compare Brady’s numbers to Rodgers and get back to me.

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